NationStates Jolt Archive


Re-institution of prostitution?

Teken
14-01-2005, 18:12
I'm fairly sure that everone knows about the recently past repeal. I don't feel particularly strongly on the matter. Was just wondering what everyone would think to a proposal re-instituting prostitution, if it was fairly well written. A sort of repeal of a repeal - could be kinda confusing (but in a good way). Is it even alowed?? :confused: So many questions!!!
TilEnca
14-01-2005, 18:33
I'm fairly sure that everone knows about the recently past repeal. I don't feel particularly strongly on the matter. Was just wondering what everyone would think to a proposal re-instituting prostitution, if it was fairly well written. A sort of repeal of a repeal - could be kinda confusing (but in a good way). Is it even alowed?? :confused: So many questions!!!

You physically can't repeal a repeal - there is no option to do it. But as far as I am aware there is nothing to stop a new proposal being brought before the UN. I think it would have to be different from the one that was repealed, but I don't know.

There is another thread regarding this - I think it is called "Please Help" or "Help Required" or something. Can I suggest reading that for further reference?
Stankystan
14-01-2005, 20:29
Stankystan thinks that UN should be a more productive organization. Proposals and repeals are part of UN. What we think it's not part of the UN is continuously proposing and repealing the same matter over and over again.

Stankystan believes Prostitution debate is over. People exposed their views. A repeal was voted. Case closed. So why the hell keep insisting on it?

Stankystan thinks UN members should be more aware of their actions and act like the diplomats they are, and not like children trying to enforce their will to a whole.

We will not support further discussion over this matter.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
14-01-2005, 21:05
Stankystan thinks UN members should be more aware of their actions and act like the diplomats they are, and not like children trying to enforce their will to a whole.

Unfortunately, there are times I have to agree, at least partially, with this sentiment.
TilEnca
14-01-2005, 21:09
Stankystan thinks that UN should be a more productive organization. Proposals and repeals are part of UN. What we think it's not part of the UN is continuously proposing and repealing the same matter over and over again.

Stankystan believes Prostitution debate is over. People exposed their views. A repeal was voted. Case closed. So why the hell keep insisting on it?

Stankystan thinks UN members should be more aware of their actions and act like the diplomats they are, and not like children trying to enforce their will to a whole.

We will not support further discussion over this matter.

I disagree. What if someone repealed gay rights? Would it be beyond reason to try to re-introduce some form of gay rights proposal to the UN?
Powerhungry Chipmunks
14-01-2005, 21:16
I disagree. What if someone repealed gay rights? Would it be beyond reason to try to re-introduce some form of gay rights proposal to the UN?

Well, unless gays rights is already covered by previous resolutions, which (I'll do some homework on this) may full-well be the case.
TilEnca
14-01-2005, 21:24
Then the whole idea of repeals is contradictory.

The way I see it (and this could be just me) it works like this.

A) Proposal is introduced
B) Proposal is approved
C) Proposal passes and becomes a resolution

Then it is law. But some one doesn't like the decision, despite the fact it was a majority decision.

So.

D) Repeal is introduced
E) Repeal is approved
F) Repeal is passed and the resolution is struck out.

And that's it?

If people can repeal the original resolution because they don't like it, doesn't it follow that someone might not like the repeal and want to do something about it?

Or does democracy vanish once something is repealed?
Doraland
14-01-2005, 22:24
In my opinion, the UN is either a forum for free nations or a dictators' club. Those who would seek to ban prostitution, or even allow the members to ban prostitution, are saying that it should not be a forum for free nations, but a dictators' club. Doraland is tired of pompous dictators being treated as morally equivalent to the forces of freedom.

Sic semper tyrannis! Live free or die!
TilEnca
14-01-2005, 22:37
In my opinion, the UN is either a forum for free nations or a dictators' club. Those who would seek to ban prostitution, or even allow the members to ban prostitution, are saying that it should not be a forum for free nations, but a dictators' club. Doraland is tired of pompous dictators being treated as morally equivalent to the forces of freedom.

Sic semper tyrannis! Live free or die!

That may be your opinion, however it is not the stated reason for the existance of the UN according to the FAQ.

The UN exists to make the world a better place, as defined by the people who vote in the largest number on the proposed resolution on the table.
Doraland
14-01-2005, 22:38
A world of tyranny is never a better place.
TilEnca
14-01-2005, 22:58
A world of tyranny is never a better place.

That would depend on your perspective. If you believe that the UN is a world of tyranny, then this world of tyranny has enforced Gay Rights, Religious Tolerance , Protection of Children, Prosecution of people who commit Genocide, protection of workers and the ability to prevent the UN from taxing citizens of member nations.

All of these things, I think, are a good thing and I am glad they have been enforced on the UN cause it is a better place. And without them then the leaders of the member nations could easily make their nation a lot worse a place.

And to some degree the repeal has allowed nations free-will on the matter of prostitution. Which some people would claim is a victory against tyranny (I wouldn't agree, but that's just me!).
Asshelmetta
15-01-2005, 04:29
Give it a month.
Teken
15-01-2005, 18:25
[QUOTE=Stankystan]Stankystan thinks that UN should be a more productive organization. Proposals and repeals are part of UN. What we think it's not part of the UN is continuously proposing and repealing the same matter over and over again.

Stankystan believes Prostitution debate is over. People exposed their views. A repeal was voted. Case closed. So why the hell keep insisting on it?

[QUOTE]

There may aswell not be a UN if thats the case.

Well it obviously has to be discussed!! and if that means re-instituting then so be it!


By the way cheers for the input guys.
Teken
15-01-2005, 18:25
Damn quotes. :rolleyes:
The Most Glorious Hack
16-01-2005, 10:02
Cog and I talked it over (and got some imput from certain VIPs) and have decided that you can resubmit Repealed Resolutions. A couple things to keep in mind:
If the Repealed Resolution was illegal and you resubmit it, word for word, it will be deleted, and you will be warned.
If the Repealed Resolution was poorly written (but legal), please clean it up a little. The recently Repealed prostitution Resolution was dreadfully written, and not at the level of current Proposals.
Groot Gouda
16-01-2005, 10:48
I'm fairly sure that everone knows about the recently past repeal. I don't feel particularly strongly on the matter. Was just wondering what everyone would think to a proposal re-instituting prostitution, if it was fairly well written. A sort of repeal of a repeal - could be kinda confusing (but in a good way). Is it even alowed?? :confused: So many questions!!!

I have put up a draft for a "Legalize and regulate prostitution" resolution. Feel free to comment on it to improve it further.