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After being personally attacked from an orbiting nightmare I was thinking of a ban on all orbiting weapons. I know simmilar measures have been shot down (no pun intended) and I would like thoughts on how to make mine stick.

The answer is simple: Don't. The majority of FT nations you should be worried about are not UN members.

Plus, that's a lot like banning weapons all together. Is using a craft's engines to cook another ship considered a space weapon? If so, you've just doomed space travel, propulsion is vital. If you say "Just use engines which can't do that" then people will just build kamikazes, and then are space craft weapons? DLE is right, but you also have to consider the broader implications of an issue.

After being personally attacked from an orbiting nightmare I was thinking of a ban on all orbiting weapons. I know simmilar measures have been shot down (no pun intended) and I would like thoughts on how to make mine stick.

Easy. First the collective nations not in the UN nuke your country into glass from orbiting satellites, then your survivors reconsider such an idea as they try to escape the stone age.

:rolleyes:

Thanks again Vastiva. I had not considered that posibility. But surely there is a nonviolent solution to this problem. Other than my and others complete and total anhilation.

Thanks again Vastiva. I had not considered that posibility. But surely there is a nonviolent solution to this problem. Other than my and others complete and total anhilation.

Not really. Remember, the UN only affects UN nations. I can name at least six nations which would love UN nations to be disarmed, without thinking.

My nation is a hippy utopia. The only form of weaponry our nation really has is orbital laser tech, and even that is used mainly by our civilians to light their blunts with laser accuracy. We would be saaad if something like this passed :(

That said, sympathies towards you and whoever else was harmed in this attack. =(

Is this a complete ban on ALL weapons in space, or just orbital weapons platforms?

That's actually rather the same thing...

That's actually rather the same thing...

Not really...

How are weapons mounted on the starships of FT Nations the same thing as an Orbital Weapons Platform?

After being personally attacked from an orbiting nightmare I was thinking of a ban on all orbiting weapons. I know simmilar measures have been shot down (no pun intended) and I would like thoughts on how to make mine stick.


This proposal is uterly proposterus! The nation of Cybertoria will not surport such a ludicris proposal!

Such proposal must be well thought out, if possible. Imagine the possibility of we having to deal with an alien (i mean an intelligent species from outter space) invasion threat. Then we all would like to have weapons in the space to, at least, have a first line of defense.

Another issue has been brought to light of this discussion. There are non-aligned (with UN of course) countries that would love us to prohibit ourselfs of such possibility.

Stankystan government and myself see no bright future to a resolution of this kind. Outter Space is a far too important region, to be limited in such a sensitive matter as defense. Therefore, in a first glance, we would disapprove it.

I concur with the esteemed delegate from Stankystan.

Space is far too important of a frontier for humanity as a whole to risk our wholesale destruction at the hands of beings less interested as ourselves in your self-serving, vendetta-mongering proposal.

What if Space weapons have to go through the same sort of monitering as other conventional weapons. True it won't prevent all attacks but it could at least provide some sort of fire-line... Then again how easy is it to get nucular weapons?

Nuclear weapons? Less difficult than getting an ion cannon, and ion cannons are less destructive.

Basically, extremely easy.

What if Space weapons have to go through the same sort of monitering as other conventional weapons. True it won't prevent all attacks but it could at least provide some sort of fire-line... Then again how easy is it to get nucular weapons?

Stankystan isn't yet convince about the validity of this possible proposal.
We think outter space is a region yet unknow. Therefore it's unpredictable what can happen/come from there. We continue to disapprove anykind of text regarding the banning of weapons in space.

C'mon some sort of line of fire? I think we oughta protect our citizens better than that. They deserve it. I know Stankystanese do.

Saysomething, it was my space based cruiser that took out the orbital weapons platform for you. You'd be banning the very thing that saved you.

My nation is a hippy utopia. The only form of weaponry our nation really has is orbital laser tech, and even that is used mainly by our civilians to light their blunts with laser accuracy. We would be saaad if something like this passed :(

That said, sympathies towards you and whoever else was harmed in this attack. =(

Lord Jehvah, the unstable representative of the System Lord Atum, smiled as the Ante-Talaxian representative spoke. He took a note pad and a pencil from his table, and wrote in a flowing hand.

Note to self: Find Ante-Talaxia then invade and crush them.

The Citadel, a gift of the Predecessors which Necros-Vacuia uses as a mobile base of operations, is capable of spaceflight; but we keep it, for all intents and purposes, atmospheric.

Which raises the question:

--How would such a proposal protect you if the nations possessing space-based technology simply lowered it into the planet's ionosphere and blasted you from there?

--If you did make provisions against that, how are you then to prevent them from channeling their technological resources into air forces like those possessed by Necros-Vacuia? The Dominion Air Force is known to level small cities in a matter of days.

Orbital weapons are not the thing to be worried about, really; they are, for the most part, big expensive toys. Outlaw them, and you'll be destroyed otherwise.

--Ellion Kev, Ambassador to the UN, Dominion of Necros-Vacuia

We will not be supporting this resolution as we feel partial disarmament does nothing to make us safe.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

You guys are right space weapons are both good and evil at the same time. Unfortuatly war is a part of life. In addition space is just too unpredictible. I will never give up on the idea of nonviolnce. As to this proposal considered it scraped. I am sooo glad I debated this issue here first before posting it.

I've had sooo many rejections here in the UN :)