NationStates Jolt Archive


Repeal UN Resolution #43: Legalise Euthanasia

Kryozerkia
07-01-2005, 06:31
Yes, I'm also suggesting it.

However, my reasons are not influenced by anything other than the simple fact that this issue is already taken care of in the form of a daily issue.

I hope that all delegates consider it and take a look at it,

I am requesting an repeal because it is a redundant resolution.

Thank you for your time.
DemonLordEnigma
07-01-2005, 07:02
The daily issues and UN resolutions are pretty much mutually exclusive. The UN resolution gives you no choice in the matter.
Tuesday Heights
07-01-2005, 10:52
DLE, I think that's the point Kryozerkia is making. Since a repeal would easily nullify the resolution garnering euthanasia, the issue itself would deal with it solely, allowing each nation to determine how to go about it.

#28: Cancer Sufferer Demands Euthanasia Bill

The Issue
Dorothy Terwilliger lies immobilized in a hospital bed, unable to move. She has end-stage cancer, and wishes to end her struggle against death. However, laws prevent her doctors from obeying her wishes.

The Debate
1. Dorothy and her family are campaigning for a "Dying with Dignity" bill, to change this situation. She implores the government to legalize euthanasia.

2. "I understand this is a very difficult time for these people," says freelance medical writer @@RANDOMNAME@@. "But the solution is not to let our medical system slide down the slippery slope of killing people in pain. We must cure, not kill. This is not the right time for euthanasia."

3. "I agree, but go further: there is never a right time for euthanasia," says Bishop @@RANDOMNAME@@. "The lives we lead are given to us by the grace of God, and he decides when they end. It is not for us to question God's divine purpose, no matter how odd or screwed-up it may seem."

The issue itself gives a nation the choice of whether or not they choose to follow UN law, which isn't technically allowed, per se. Since the UN already regulates it, any UN nation that gets this issue and votes to outlaw euthanasia as per selection three would override UN law, which technically, is illegal.
Kryozerkia
07-01-2005, 18:24
That's exactly my point, TH.

I don't think we should have a resolution on the books, such as #43, but then receive the option to violate it because we don't like it. Such as, voting against it using a daily issue. If member nations didn't receive the daily issue, there would be no need to repeal this resolution.
TilEnca
07-01-2005, 18:33
That's exactly my point, TH.

I don't think we should have a resolution on the books, such as #43, but then receive the option to violate it because we don't like it. Such as, voting against it using a daily issue. If member nations didn't receive the daily issue, there would be no need to repeal this resolution.

Did you receive the option to violating it before or after it was passed in the UN?

(I am just curious)
Kryozerkia
07-01-2005, 18:35
Did you receive the option to violating it before or after it was passed in the UN?

(I am just curious)
Yes I have, actually, on a few ocassions. Mind you I vote in favour of it. However, there would be those who wouldn't vote in favour of it and would therefore violate a UN resolution.
DemonLordEnigma
07-01-2005, 21:54
DLE, I think that's the point Kryozerkia is making. Since a repeal would easily nullify the resolution garnering euthanasia, the issue itself would deal with it solely, allowing each nation to determine how to go about it.

The issue itself gives a nation the choice of whether or not they choose to follow UN law, which isn't technically allowed, per se. Since the UN already regulates it, any UN nation that gets this issue and votes to outlaw euthanasia as per selection three would override UN law, which technically, is illegal.

Actually, they wouldn't. The moment they illegalized it, the gnomes would make it legal again. Thus, it is never illegal long enough to have an effect.

Also, the daily issue one predates the resolution and removing it would require alterations to the game that, currently, they are not willing to attempt.

That's exactly my point, TH.

I don't think we should have a resolution on the books, such as #43, but then receive the option to violate it because we don't like it. Such as, voting against it using a daily issue. If member nations didn't receive the daily issue, there would be no need to repeal this resolution.

It's one of the many internal contradictions the game has. I actually have managed to get my NS description to contradict itself on multiple occasions. Now, I would like to see you convince the admins that they need to remove the daily issue. As it is, I don't see a good reason for this repeal.
Kryozerkia
07-01-2005, 23:25
So, this is why I put in the appeal. ^_^ Also, just because I can.
Azati Prime
08-01-2005, 02:12
Repealing the resolution isn't the answer. Couldn't somone just modify the issue so it isn't presented to UN members?
DemonLordEnigma
08-01-2005, 02:27
Repealing the resolution isn't the answer. Couldn't somone just modify the issue so it isn't presented to UN members?

Nope.
Enn
08-01-2005, 02:28
The mods never change daily issues. I don't know whether they're even allowed to.
Last I heard, [violet] had said that the issues will not be changed.