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Please endorse this proposal.

Rice makes an excellent staple diet and encouraging it's cropping will help to provide good food for generations to come.

Another M.O.S.S. proposal.

Perhaps you could post a copy of it here so we can look over the whole thing?

Another M.O.S.S. proposal.

Perhaps you could post a copy of it here so we can look over the whole thing?

Here is the proposal as it was submitted.

Support Rice cropping
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Weezil

Description: Description: BELIEVING that all nations should support the production and use of rice. Rice needs to be recognized as a profitable and environmentally friendly crop.

EMPHASIZING that rice cannot be used as a drug.

REALIZING that rice is suitable for industrial and personal cropping.

NOTING that the use of rice in food products is a viable and healthy alternative. The increased demand for health food has stimulated the trade in rice seed while rice is increasingly being used in the manufacturing of numerous products. Rice is High in protein and energy.

RECOGNIZING that rice is a sustainable, annual crop that is ready for harvest just 120 days after going to seed, much shorter then trees. Harvesting rice doesn't destroy the natural habitats of thousands of distinct animal and plant species.

RECOGNIZING that rice is a hardy plant that can grow easily and abundantly almost anywhere. rice can even be cultivated in regions with poor soil or in places with a very short growing season. Rice requires only water and nutrients, and therefore can be grown without chemical fertilizers. Rice is an ideal rotation crop for farmers worldwide. It is grown within a cultivated water resevoir, preventing topsoil erosion. In addition fish and other animals can co-exist with the rice crop, yielding greater diversity of environment and diet.

RECOGNIZING that rice's cellulose level is three times that of wood, so it makes superior paper products and yields four times as much pulp per acre as trees. The rice paper process utilizes less energy and chemicals than tree paper processing and doesn't create the harmful dioxins, chloroform, or any of the other 2,000 chlorinated organic compounds that are byproducts of the wood paper process.

RECOMMEND that each nation set up an advisory board to oversee this program and its financial operation. The advisory board will be comprised of 8 officials and one director of the board. The advisory board will also be comprised of other workers to help these 8 officials and to help manage the work of this agency.

FURTHER REQUESTS that the director and these 8 officials be picked by the government of that nation. The director will have discretion in selecting additional employees.

SUGGESTS that these 8 officials be comprised of 2 economists, 2 ecologists, 2 agriculturalists (preferably having knowledge in cultivating rice), and 2 biologists.

RECOMMENDS the advisory board have the power to provide incentives to farmers that grow or will grow rice. There are two types of incentives that can be provided to these farmers:

1. Farmers who grow rice will be given tax breaks. These tax breaks will be based on how much rice the farmer grows, and the maximum tax break will be 45% for a yearly period.

2. Farmers will recieve monthly stipends, and will also be based on how much rice they grow. The maximum stipend will be $10,000.

RECOMMENDS that the budget be based on how many farmers are involved in the program, and how much each farmer plans on growing. Farmers in the program will be asked to give a small percentage of their profits to the program. The percentage will be based on economic status of the farmer, and how much profit they are making. This should provide 30 % of the funds for the program, and the other 40% will come from the government, and the remaining 30% shall come from the United Nations.

Look! Its Hemp II!

The water intensive nature of rice makes it a very difficult crop to grow in Vastiva, where snow and ice are the norm. We would also question its ability to be grown in desert regions.

Here is the proposal as it was submitted.

Support Rice cropping...

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One very non-objectionable thing about this proposal is how thoroughly it was written, and how well adapted to the conventional style. Good job at that! It's quite refreshing to see a well-written proposal. If this'n doesn't pass either now or in resubmissions, definitely continue writing and submitting proposals. Believe me, we need 'em.

Look! Its Hemp II!

The water intensive nature of rice makes it a very difficult crop to grow in Vastiva, where snow and ice are the norm. We would also question its ability to be grown in desert regions.

The rice growing fields can double as water purification and storage areas.

Also, since hemp is already a mandated product from a recent resolution, this adds diversity. Hemp does not provide food, whilst rice does. It also provides alternative / alternating cropping which is more environmentally sustainable.

Arid regions should have water shipped in by the UN!

Do you have any idea how expensive it is to pipe water to everywhere?

As soon as I'm a delegate, I'm proposing a banana cultivation resolution. and then one for mushrooms.

Do you have any idea how expensive it is to pipe water to everywhere?

I am considering writing a proposal to the UN to tax member countries to pay the cost of shipping water to arid regions. Do know how much money the UN could raise?

Once you have a supply of water being fed to an area, it could easily develop into being climate change.

As soon as I'm a delegate, I'm proposing a banana cultivation resolution. and then one for mushrooms.

You only need two endorsements to make a proposal, you don't have to be a delegate.

Waitaminute, you want to tax the UN member nations to ship water for rice growing in all nations?

Ha...

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

NO.

How is this aversely affecting business?

Here is the proposal as it was submitted.

Support Rice cropping
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Weezil

Not bad so far.

Description: Description: BELIEVING that all nations should support the production and use of rice. Rice needs to be recognized as a profitable and environmentally friendly crop.

Rice is not native to any DLE world and, as such, would be a crop that could easily get loose and overrun native plants. Of course, that's only on the one world where the higher levels of UV radiation aren't likely to kill it.

EMPHASIZING that rice cannot be used as a drug.

Actually, it can. Certain animals in DLE have shown the same reaction to rice that humans show to cocaine. This is, of course, due to their vastly different biologies. But on Earth, it can't, so I don't hold my objection as that important.

Woah. Deja vu.

REALIZING that rice is suitable for industrial and personal cropping.

Not in DLE, where there are questions of how it will do in the higher-than-Earth temperatures and, on the two worlds that are currently inhabitted, much higher levels of UV radiation.

Also, many areas on Earth have extremely low water levels due to the local environment, making the crop insanely expensive in those areas.

NOTING that the use of rice in food products is a viable and healthy alternative. The increased demand for health food has stimulated the trade in rice seed while rice is increasingly being used in the manufacturing of numerous products. Rice is High in protein and energy.

Won't dispute that. May investigate rice products for potential use in colonization efforts on DLE worlds, as the way some can last may be useful for colonies around the time they are first being built. Doesn't solve all of the problems of colonization, but every bit helps.

RECOGNIZING that rice is a sustainable, annual crop that is ready for harvest just 120 days after going to seed, much shorter then trees. Harvesting rice doesn't destroy the natural habitats of thousands of distinct animal and plant species.

No, but me planting it and funneling water to it would.

RECOGNIZING that rice is a hardy plant that can grow easily and abundantly almost anywhere. rice can even be cultivated in regions with poor soil or in places with a very short growing season. Rice requires only water and nutrients, and therefore can be grown without chemical fertilizers. Rice is an ideal rotation crop for farmers worldwide. It is grown within a cultivated water resevoir, preventing topsoil erosion. In addition fish and other animals can co-exist with the rice crop, yielding greater diversity of environment and diet.

"Almost" being an important word. In areas of low water or very high radiation, the crop doesn't do as well (hell, nothing from Earth does as well in the radiation areas). That makes the crop itself not worth the effort to me.

RECOGNIZING that rice's cellulose level is three times that of wood, so it makes superior paper products and yields four times as much pulp per acre as trees. The rice paper process utilizes less energy and chemicals than tree paper processing and doesn't create the harmful dioxins, chloroform, or any of the other 2,000 chlorinated organic compounds that are byproducts of the wood paper process.

We already have a resolution that does this with another product. Why is this needed?

RECOMMEND that each nation set up an advisory board to oversee this program and its financial operation. The advisory board will be comprised of 8 officials and one director of the board. The advisory board will also be comprised of other workers to help these 8 officials and to help manage the work of this agency.

Okay, so you plagiarized another resolution for this one and made a few changes. Doesn't mean I'm going to support.

FURTHER REQUESTS that the director and these 8 officials be picked by the government of that nation. The director will have discretion in selecting additional employees.

SUGGESTS that these 8 officials be comprised of 2 economists, 2 ecologists, 2 agriculturalists (preferably having knowledge in cultivating rice), and 2 biologists.

RECOMMENDS the advisory board have the power to provide incentives to farmers that grow or will grow rice. There are two types of incentives that can be provided to these farmers:

1. Farmers who grow rice will be given tax breaks. These tax breaks will be based on how much rice the farmer grows, and the maximum tax break will be 45% for a yearly period.

2. Farmers will recieve monthly stipends, and will also be based on how much rice they grow. The maximum stipend will be $10,000.

RECOMMENDS that the budget be based on how many farmers are involved in the program, and how much each farmer plans on growing. Farmers in the program will be asked to give a small percentage of their profits to the program. The percentage will be based on economic status of the farmer, and how much profit they are making. This should provide 30 % of the funds for the program, and the other 40% will come from the government, and the remaining 30% shall come from the United Nations.

Yep. Plagiarized another resolution with only a few minor changes and additions. There is not way in this universe I will support.

You only need two endorsements to make a proposal, you don't have to be a delegate.
But see, the bananas thing is just going to be the *text* of my resolution.

In reality, of course, it'll be all about relaxing gun control.

I'm still in awe of Aedon's move on that one.

But the real question is.

Will sake bottlers get a tax break too?

But the real question is.

Will sake bottlers get a tax break too?
See? It's kinda fun, isn't it?

No offense or anything, but you just added rice into different parts of my hemp proposal. I suggest you write your own proposal. My proposal for hemp was at least originial, and written by myself. I am sorry but I feel this is a lazy attempt at writting a proposal. You kept pretty much everythijng the same.

"One very non-objectionable thing about this proposal is how thoroughly it was written, and how well adapted to the conventional style. Good job at that! It's quite refreshing to see a well-written proposal. If this'n doesn't pass either now or in resubmissions, definitely continue writing and submitting proposals. Believe me, we need 'em."

Powerhungry chipmunks, this proposal is a copy of my hemp proposal, and the author if this rice proposal simply addeed rice into every line that said hemp.

Is rice really ready to harvest in 120 days, just because hemp can be harvested in 120 days does not mean rice can be ready to hrvest that soon.

i would suggets this proposal be reported to the mods for plagarizing my hemp proposal that I worked long and hard on. This is a lazy attempt to ride off of my success.

I don't actually know about hemp, but rice is ready to harvest in 120 days. Hemp does not require as much water, so makes an ideal 'filler' or 'buffer' crop in the drier months between rice crops.

I think the two are mutually beneficial.

I would say I used yours as a template. Plagiarism involves claiming credit for work as ones own. I claim no credit for this other than the fact I submitted it. It is not the same work, but heavily based on yours. Yours is now a law in the UN, and as such in the public domain, so I based my resolution on an existing UN Law.

I think that should be taken as flattery that I considered your proposal well written and suitable for use as a template for mine.

Apologies for any offence.

Powerhungry chipmunks, this proposal is a copy of my hemp proposal, and the author if this rice proposal simply addeed rice into every line that said hemp.


Ah, I didn't realize. Sorry. Well, actually, since I was complimenting it being well-writen, I guess you should take my statement as a compliment for your hemp proposal.

I would say I used yours as a template. Plagiarism involves claiming credit for work as ones own. I claim no credit for this other than the fact I submitted it. It is not the same work, but heavily based on yours. Yours is now a law in the UN, and as such in the public domain, so I based my resolution on an existing UN Law.

You have claimed it as your own. Take a look at the "Author" portion of the proposal.

You have claimed it as your own. Take a look at the "Author" portion of the proposal.

OK, now you are being petulant.

1) There is no 'Author' section. There is a 'proposed by' section.

2) That section is added by NS. Not the user.

3) I never denied proposing the resolution. In fact it was discussed by several nations in my region before I submitted it.

4) I don't deny copying and modifying existing UN legislation. The UN FAQ encourages this. You should be flattered not insulted by this.

Enough. Support or not is your choice. Report to mods or not is your choice. Do as you see fit within the rules of the game of Nation States.

Quite frankly I don't care who wrote the resolution it's ridiculous

I am considering writing a proposal to the UN to tax member countries to pay the cost of shipping water to arid regions.

This violates resolution #4, UN taxation ban, which states: "The UN shall not be allowed to collect taxes directly from the citizens of any member state for any purpose."

In addition to this obvious flaw other aspects of the resolution are just not workable, there is no way I will subsidise production and set up what is effectively a "Rice board" to oversee production. The country of Leg-ends already has sufficient levels of rice production to meet it's needs, we are not going to over produce rice as this leads either wastage on a huge scale, or incurs further costs to store the excess rice.

The market has already provided a perfectly adequate solution, we are not going to let the UN meddle and ruin a situation which works.

You have a point power hungry chimpmunks. Weezil, you changed almost nothing in your rice cropping proposal, you made no attempt to make this your own proposal. I interpret proposed by to mean authored, and this is a lazy attempt at a proposal. I think it speaks very badly of you as a UN delegate. Next time try actyually writing your own proposal.

Weezil is rice really ready to harvest in 120 days? I know hemp is after having actually researched. If this is how you conduct yourself I do not see you being fit to be a UN delegate.

Also, here is my hemp proposal please note many of the similarities:

Support Hemp Production

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: All Businesses


Proposed by: The Avenging Angels

Description: BELIEVING that all nations should support the production and use of industrial hemp. Hemp needs to be recognized as a profitable and environmentally friendly crop.

EMPHASIZING that industrial hemp cannot be used as a drug.

REALIZING that hemp is suitable for industrial paper manufacturing, can be used for clothing and shoes, for use as a renewable energy source, and for use in food products. The increased demand for health food has stimulated the trade in shelled hemp seed while hemp oil is increasingly being used in the manufacturing of bodycare products. Hemp is High in protein and Omega-3 fatty acids.

RECOGNIZING that hemp is a sustainable, annual crop that is ready for harvest just 120 days after going to seed, much shorter then trees. Harvesting hemp doesn't destroy the natural habitats of thousands of distinct animal and plant species.

RECOGNIZING that hemp is a hardy plant that can grow easily and abundantly almost anywhere. Hemp can even be cultivated in arid regions with poor soil or in places with a very short growing season. Hemp requires little water or nutrients, and therefore can be grown without chemical fertilizers. Hemp is an ideal rotation crop for farmers worldwide. It puts down a taproot twelve inches long in only thirty days, preventing topsoil erosion.

RECOGNIZING that hemp's cellulose level is three times that of wood, so it makes superior paper products and yields four times as much pulp per acre as trees. The hemp paper process utilizes less energy and chemicals than tree paper processing and doesn't create the harmful dioxins, chloroform, or any of the other 2,000 chlorinated organic compounds that are byproducts of the wood paper process.

RECOMMEND that each nation set up an advisory board to oversee this program and its financial operation. The advisory board will be comprised of 8 officials and one director of the board. The advisory board will also be comprised of other workers to help these 8 officials and to help manage the work of this agency.

FURTHER REQUESTS that the director and these 8 officials be picked by the government of that nation. The director will have discretion in selecting additional employees.

SUGGESTS that these 8 officials be comprised of 2 economists, 2 ecologists, 2 agriculturalists (preferably having knowledge in cultivating hemp), and 2 biologists.

RECOMMENDS the advisory board have the power to provide incentives to farmers that grow or will grow hemp. There are two types of incentives that can be provided to these farmers:

1. Farmers who grow hemp will be given tax breaks. These tax breaks will be based on how much hemp the farmer grows, and the maximum tax break will be 45% for a yearly period.

2. Farmers will recieve monthly stipends, and will also be based on how much hemp they grow. The maximum stipend will be $10,000.

RECOMMENDS that the budget be based on how many farmers are involved in the program, and how much each farmer plans on growing. Farmers in the program will be asked to give a small percentage of their profits to the program. The percentage will be based on economic status of the farmer, and how much profit they are making. This should provide 30 % of the funds for the program, and the other 40% will come from the government, and the remaining 30% shall come from the United Nations.

Votes For: 11,017
Votes Against: 3,963

Implemented: Sun Jan 2 2005

I think someone may have said this, bur rice can be used for drugs. It is called alcohol, and alcohol can be made from rice.

"Also, since hemp is already a mandated product from a recent resolution, this adds diversity. Hemp does not provide food, whilst rice does. It also provides alternative / alternating cropping which is more environmentally sustainable."

Weezil if you cared to do mresearch you would find that hemp has 8 essential amino acids and 4 essential fatty acids. Hemp for example can be used for granola, margarine, bread, cookies, milk, and many other things. I would suggest you google for hemp, and you will see that hemp can be used for food.

hemp has 8 essential amino acids and 4 essential fatty acids. Hemp for example can be used for granola, margarine, bread, cookies, milk, and many other things. I would suggest you google for hemp, and you will see that hemp can be used for food.

Hemp can be used as an additive in food production. rice IS a food. There are very large differences between those two statements.

Also, rice IS ready for harvest is 120 days. This I know for a fact.

Are you prepared to accept my apology? I am sincere about that.

Rice is can be an additive as well. Hemp is a food as well you can use the whole plant, the oil or just the seeds. Also, show me a link online saying rice is ready in 120 days.

No, I felt your apology was lacking sincerity. If you can make a sincere apology realizing what you actually did was wrong and was plagarism then I will listen to it.

OK, now you are being petulant.

That's asking for it.

1) There is no 'Author' section. There is a 'proposed by' section.

That's counted as the 'Author' section, as it's assumed you actually wrote it.

2) That section is added by NS. Not the user.

Under the assumption the person who submitted it is the person who actually wrote it originally.

3) I never denied proposing the resolution. In fact it was discussed by several nations in my region before I submitted it.

Try having it discussed on here. We tend to have more experience.

No insult meant to your region.

4) I don't deny copying and modifying existing UN legislation. The UN FAQ encourages this. You should be flattered not insulted by this.

No, the UN FAQ states it as against the rules and potentially illegal in real life as well. Copying the entire thing and changing only minor parts is plagiarism. Using it as a model to loosely base your proposal on is not. There is an difference.

Enough. Support or not is your choice. Report to mods or not is your choice. Do as you see fit within the rules of the game of Nation States.

It's already been reported to the mods. Multiple times. Have to check to see their answer.

I assume the mods agreed since I think they deated his proposal. I would have welcomed him using mine for ideas and buty using the whole thing and changing minor parts was not cool and thats what crossed the line.