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I draw your attention to resolution #47 about the legalizationof prostitution...

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Kepone

Description: As you are aware, there are citizens who get by in desperate times by selling their bodies in order to pay their bills and feed their children. Both men and women partake in this profession.

If we legalized prostitution, people would be able to sell themselves to get by.

In return, the government could use the money collected from taxes on prostitution income to support programs that help the poor. Prostitution is the oldest profession. Why must we make it a priority for law enforcement to monitor and arrest prostitutes when there are greater crimes out there?
If a countries inhabitants is no longer capableof supporting themselves or their children it is not up to them to fix that, the country should be able to provide these families with everything they need. Prostitution IS degrading treatment, whether or not they chose for it or not... And as we all know degrading treatment is not in compliance with the Universal Bill of Human Rights... so if we legalize prostitution we are violating this Bill...

Also, abolishing prostitution would draw back the figures of teen pregnancies and HIV/AIDS infected people... what happens if the back ally prostitute has AIDS, she doesn't use condoms because she can't afford it and is not able to give birth anyway because it was cheaper to sterilize herself than to use a condom on every customer...

Furthermore, we are giving people without an education a reason not to do an education at all... Please remember that prostitution does not qualify under the Department of Health, so none of the prostitutes have health-insuranse... Sounds to me that you are all gonna have a problem with Sexually Transmitted Diseases if you keep on legalizing this matter...

Last but not least... HOW CAN YOU ASK FOR TAXES ON PROSTITUTION!!! it's not like it's done with a credit card or something like that... it's cold hard cash, so the entire second clause doesn't make any sense at all and I am wondering why this resolution has ever been passed in the first place...

It won with a considerable amount of votes and I think if you try and repeal it it may lose.

the Empire of Mattooe thinks that it should be repealed because if the countrys people can not support themselves then the government should take relief action not taxing someones body....

Contraland has the Empire of Mattooe's support because what they are saying is the truth TAXES!!!!!!!! it's barbaric.....

The following edits hopefully display our problems with your repeal
If a countries inhabitants is no longer capableof supporting themselves or their children it is not up to them to fix that, the country should be able to provide these families with everything they need. Employment IS degrading treatment, whether or not they chose for it or not... And as we all know degrading treatment is not in compliance with the Universal Bill of Human Rights... so if we legalize employment we are violating this Bill...

Also, abolishing employment would draw back the figures of teen pregnancies and HIV/AIDS infected people... what happens if the back ally employee has AIDS, she doesn't use condoms because she can't afford it and is not able to give birth anyway because it was cheaper to sterilize herself than to use a condom on every customer...

Furthermore, we are giving people without an education a reason not to do an education at all... Please remember that employment does not qualify under the Department of Health, so none of the employees have health-insuranse... Sounds to me that you are all gonna have a problem with Sexually Transmitted Diseases if you keep on legalizing this matter...

Last but not least... HOW CAN YOU ASK FOR TAXES ON EMPLOYMENT!!! it's not like it's done with a credit card or something like that... it's cold hard cash, so the entire second clause doesn't make any sense at all and I am wondering why this resolution has ever been passed in the first place...

Basically in every situation we choose to take power and give it up. This happen in all forms of employment, why is it only a problem with sex?

Also you seem the have the idea that prostitution is a dirty back ally thing with no regulations. If that is the case in your country then you certainly have a problem perhaps you would like to contact someone in my government who can help you with that.

Our sex industry is very professionally run. Licensed workers have health checks, free access to protection, and the free health care shared by the rest of our population. Most also take plastic or check. If you choose to be unlicensed then we are going to check up on that.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

The following edits hopefully display our problems with your repeal


Basically in every situation we choose to take power and give it up. This happen in all forms of employment, why is it only a problem with sex?

Also you seem the have the idea that prostitution is a dirty back ally thing with no regulations. If that is the case in your country then you certainly have a problem perhaps you would like to contact someone in my government who can help you with that.

Our sex industry is very professionally run. Licensed workers have health checks, free access to protection, and the free health care shared by the rest of our population. Most also take plastic or check. If you choose to be unlicensed then we are going to check up on that.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

It seems like you run things well in your country but what happens if there is a less fortunate coutnry with people selling their bodies and helping to spread AIDS.. What then....... The UN Needs to have laws set on prostetution its outrageous here we are with a new resolution to control AIDS and now we are talking about legalizing prostetution which can help spread AIDS......

It seems like you run things well in your country but what happens if there is a less fortunate coutnry with people selling their bodies and helping to spread AIDS.. What then....... The UN Needs to have laws set on prostetution its outrageous here we are with a new resolution to control AIDS and now we are talking about legalizing prostetution which can help spread AIDS......

RECOMMENDS that all member states will adopt a law that punishes those citizens knowledgably infected with the virus that transmit it to other citizens;

That is if it passes.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World

So another UN resoloution which contradicts another...great.

the problem with the prostitution proposal is lack of limits.
they had no age limit, goverment enforcment, minimum vage, division between self prostitution and and women abuse, minimum rights and terms for prostitutes, and even no requirement of periodly health checks or license for prostitution.
in that case, prostitution is disaster. maybe you don't need to repeal that, but you must limit that.
do that, and I will vote for you in any time.

That is if it passes.

the prostitution proposal need the terms and limited IN the proposal, or at least claim IN the proposal, that this proposal work by the temrs and limits of other of other proposal.
otherwise, nations can't be ensure that terms connected to the proposal.

the problem with the prostitution proposal is lack of limits.
they had no age limit, goverment enforcment, minimum vage, division between self prostitution and and women abuse, minimum rights and terms for prostitutes, and even no requirement of periodly health checks or license for prostitution.
in that case, prostitution is disaster. maybe you don't need to repeal that, but you must limit that.
do that, and I will vote for you in any time.
Age limits and workers rights (as well as human) are addressed in other resolutions. Industry regulations aren't prohibited by the resolution. Would you have the same problems if the resolution was about legalising book binding?

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World

the prostitution proposal need the terms and limited IN the proposal, or at least claim IN the proposal, that this proposal work by the temrs and limits of other of other proposal.
otherwise, nations can't be ensure that terms connected to the proposal.
No it doesn't. Resolutions are capable of working with each other.

For example the current resolution says TAKING INTO ACCOUNT United Nations resolution #42, "Increased Access to Medicine but it dosn'thave to reference it to work with it.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World

So another UN resoloution which contradicts another...great.
I'm failing to see the contradiction.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World

Age limits and workers rights (as well as human) are addressed in other resolutions. Industry regulations aren't prohibited by the resolution. Would you have the same problems if the resolution was about legalising book binding?

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World
first, you ignore the fact that those resulution wasn't connected to the proposal IN the proposal.
second, you ignore the part on the women abuse, the minmal requierment, and the problem of un-willing prostitution.
third, book binding is not about the right of the woman/man on her/his body, right that will harm if he force to work in prostitution (and if she/he work their because he poor and he can't get money, she/he still force to work and it's against the "free choice" proposal).
forth, "the poorness prostitution" is result of un-fair welfare system that required by UN proposals (if you recognize the fact that education system could get you better job).

No it doesn't. Resolutions are capable of working with each other.

For example the current resolution says but it dosn'thave to reference it to work with it.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World
even if it dosen't have to reference, the porpuse of the proposals is to clerified the subject, and you can't get it without refernces.
and still there is no proposal that require licenses and goverment enforcement of the prostitute.
also, despite the fact the UN member states has no duty of minimum welfare system, and the citizens had no right to work, I think that the goverment still had to find other ways to get out from the poorness, or they FORCE women to became prostitutes.

first, you ignore the fact that those resulution wasn't connected to the proposal IN the proposal.
They don't have to be, the other resolutions are still in effect and therefore affect the prostitution resolution.
second, you ignore the part on the women abuse, the minmal requierment, and the problem of un-willing prostitution.
If you are having a problem with a lack of controls on prostitution in your nation maybe you need to pass some laws in your nation to change that.
third, book binding is not about the right of the woman/man on her/his body, right that will harm if he force to work in prostitution (and if she/he work their because he poor and he can't get money, she/he still force to work and it's against the "free choice" proposal).Let's see, work or starve, sounds like a choice to me.
forth, "the poorness prostitution" is result of un-fair welfare system that required by UN proposals (if you recognize the fact that education system could get you better job).When has the UN ever required mambers to implement any sort of welfare system?

Let's see, work or starve, sounds like a choice to me.the "ilusion choices" prohibidden in the "free choice" proposal.
When has the UN ever required mambers to implement any sort of welfare system?
no, he don't. but he requiered educational system in at least 3 proposals. and I believe that education could get you out from the poorness, and give you better choices than prostitution.

no, he don't. but he requiered educational system in at least 3 proposals. and I believe that education could get you out from the poorness, and give you better choices than prostitution.
That may be true but they still have the choice to be a prostitute.

Apart from what Flibbleites said slavery has also been banned in all UN member nations and prostitutes sometimes choose their occupation over other things then starvation.

If the choice was starve (or welfare) or work at minimum wage book binding even though they didn't 100% like the job and they choose to work I doubt you have a problem with that. This leads me to the conclusion that you don't have a problem with working your way out of poverty but you have a problem with the sex industry. Of course you know what they say about assumptions.

If you really want to stop poverty work on doing that. Try getting that welfare system up and running, taking away a legitimate means of employment isn't going to help.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World

Hello I'm repealing this so please vote for it and this resolution does not talk about age limits so you have no reason not to bieleve that there isn't one so 12 year olds could be prostitutes it's disgusting. :(

also you all know the current resolution about AIDs and all that. What are we going to do for people with AIDs that are in poverty? :confused:

Hello I'm repealing this so please vote for it and this resolution does not talk about age limits so you have no reason not to bieleve that there isn't one so 12 year olds could be prostitutes it's disgusting. :(
See

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7029609&postcount=15

and

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7029629&postcount=23

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World

Be it hereby resolved that the UN shall guarantee the rights of children to NOT work in any mines, factories, chemical plants or ANY OTHER industrial occupation; moreover, it shall be prohibited for a child to take up labor in such an occupation.

Prostitution does not fit in any of these catagories

the second link makes sense but still as long as they are not getting hurt the kids can still do it. That is horrible

Apart from what Flibbleites said slavery has also been banned in all UN member nations and prostitutes sometimes choose their occupation over other things then starvation.

If the choice was starve (or welfare) or work at minimum wage book binding even though they didn't 100% like the job and they choose to work I doubt you have a problem with that. This leads me to the conclusion that you don't have a problem with working your way out of poverty but you have a problem with the sex industry. Of course you know what they say about assumptions.

If you really want to stop poverty work on doing that. Try getting that welfare system up and running, taking away a legitimate means of employment isn't going to help.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World
you know, you make some points.
if all the subjects of prostitution solved in other proposals, and if the legalizations of prostitution could be license and enforce by the goverment, I can't see anymore reasons for the repealing of the proposal.
I don't had problem with my poors. I had great welfare and eduction systems, and they could find other jobs.
also I had no problem with idealic sex industry. I just want to ensure the terms and limits of the industry, as I want it in any industry.

Okay then I'll shut up now. ;)

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World

I draw your attention to resolution #47 about the legalizationof prostitution...

This shall be fun.

If a countries inhabitants is no longer capableof supporting themselves or their children it is not up to them to fix that, the country should be able to provide these families with everything they need.

Not the job of my government. My government is to keep the people as a whole alive and lead the people as a whole to an era of being a galactic power.

Not all governments have welfare systems.

Prostitution IS degrading treatment, whether or not they chose for it or not... And as we all know degrading treatment is not in compliance with the Universal Bill of Human Rights... so if we legalize prostitution we are violating this Bill...

Emotive arguement with no scientific evidence to back it. Invalid.

It's only viewed as degrading in some nations. In others, it's viewed as being another people do. It depends on the view of the nation, not on the view of some guy who automatically assumes every nation follows the same morality as himself.

Also, abolishing prostitution would draw back the figures of teen pregnancies and HIV/AIDS infected people... what happens if the back ally prostitute has AIDS, she doesn't use condoms because she can't afford it and is not able to give birth anyway because it was cheaper to sterilize herself than to use a condom on every customer...

Then she goes to jail for knowing spreading a ver infectious disease in violation of health regulations and I suddenly have another problem to worry about.

Health regulations exist for a reason. Use them.

Furthermore, we are giving people without an education a reason not to do an education at all... Please remember that prostitution does not qualify under the Department of Health, so none of the prostitutes have health-insuranse... Sounds to me that you are all gonna have a problem with Sexually Transmitted Diseases if you keep on legalizing this matter...

Actually, if it is a legal method of employment, it does qualify. If it doesn't, then your government has fallen down on the job and your government should be the ones punished, not the prostitutes. Do your job in your own nation before you try to change it in others.

Last but not least... HOW CAN YOU ASK FOR TAXES ON PROSTITUTION!!! it's not like it's done with a credit card or something like that... it's cold hard cash, so the entire second clause doesn't make any sense at all and I am wondering why this resolution has ever been passed in the first place...

Easily. The moment it became legal, it required a license. Those operating without a license are sent to work on the orbital platforms above Terran and Terrator. Also, it being legal means they can accept a wide range of payment options and have to give reciepts or bills. You would be surprised how many prostitutes use the legal system to sue for unpaid bills in my nation. In the end, they make more money, have better lifestyles, and I get more tax revenue.

So another UN resoloution which contradicts another...great.

No, it doesn't.

the problem with the prostitution proposal is lack of limits.

You do know you can pass laws in your own country?



they had no age limit

Resolution #22, Outlaw Pedophilia.
Resolution #25, Child Protection Act.


goverment enforcment

Make your own laws. Resolution #46 Legalize Prostitution itself allows for the collection of taxes from prostitutes. See also Resolution #49, Rights and Duties of UN States.



minimum wage

Make your own laws. Note Resolution #38, The Rights of Labor Unions. See also Resolution #49, Rights and Duties of UN States. Note Resolution #59, the 40 Hour Workweek and #69, Sexes Rights and #80 Rights of Minorities and Women. Male and Female prostitutes must be paid equally. ;)




division between self prostitution and and women abuse,

Resolution #6, End Slavery. See also Resolution #49, Rights and Duties of UN States. And don't forget about Resolution #68, Ban Trafficking in Persons - which specifically mentions forced prostitution as an offense.



minimum rights and terms for prostitutes, and even no requirement of periodly health checks or license for prostitution.

First, reread Resolution #20, RBH Replacement. Then Resolution #77 Epidemic Prevention Protocol. And #84 NS HIV AIDS Act.

Then you'll note Resolution #7, Sexual Freedom, does make an exception to the privacy given for medical reasons? Which makes it a "make your own law" situation.



in that case, prostitution is disaster. maybe you don't need to repeal that, but you must limit that. do that, and I will vote for you in any time.

We like the tax base prostitutes provide. At $200,000 per year on average as income, they're a wonderful addition to our GDP and service industries.

Ya so their great for money to the government but what about the health issues??? AIDS,HIV no amount of money can pay for that......

Say our government wanted to support this propal, who do we "endorse" it. I have found no option on the proposals list.

Ya so their great for money to the government but what about the health issues??? AIDS,HIV no amount of money can pay for that......

Read the damn topic, for starters. We've covered this already.

Say our government wanted to support this propal, who do we "endorse" it. I have found no option on the proposals list.

You have to be a regional delegate.

Ya so their great for money to the government but what about the health issues??? AIDS,HIV no amount of money can pay for that......

Oh really? Let me see. We have a population of one billion (*tap dance*). That gives approximately 40,000 professional prosititutes (one-fifth of one percent of the population). Roughly, this gives an income of 3 billion in taxes, (not including direct and indirect sales tax, hotel tax, real estate tax, etc). Of this, by law, 2/3rds is allocated to AIDS research. Another billion shows up in donations to the cause from this portion of the population.

I would say those with vested self-interest are making quite an impact. And as it's all above ground and legal, it rolls in.

I'm sorry I wasn't present for quite a while... anyway, to the repeal



Not the job of my government. My government is to keep the people as a whole alive and lead the people as a whole to an era of being a galactic power.

Not all governments have welfare systems.

I am fully aware of the fact that not all governments have wellfare systems, but I don't see what that has to do with the countries that DO have this system...


Emotive arguement with no scientific evidence to back it. Invalid.

It's only viewed as degrading in some nations. In others, it's viewed as being another people do. It depends on the view of the nation, not on the view of some guy who automatically assumes every nation follows the same morality as himself.

An emotive argument is still an argument, and the fact that it has no scientific evidence to back it up doesn't automatically mean that an argument is emotive... also, you are the one not giving an argument, you withdraw the attention to other subjects by means of statement.
anyway, I do not (yet) see any evidence that backs up your argument either... Furthermore, why shouldn't we be able to help those countries without a wellfare system that do find it degrading... I know you can simply wave it off by saying: shouldn't they make their own laws about that? but some nations DO respect the decisions made by the NSUN and mold their countries by it... and then there is another thing, if we can make laws about anything we want we wouldn't be in need of a NSUN anyway, now would we?


Then she goes to jail for knowing spreading a ver infectious disease in violation of health regulations and I suddenly have another problem to worry about.

Health regulations exist for a reason. Use them.

This is classic, I know your country might not agree with my policy on this, but my country is not going to punish it inhabitants for carrying a disease, and it is my right to not put this recommendation to a use... my own problem? sure, whatever you want, that your opinion about my nation, but the fact is that this IS my country's policy and that the number of HIV/AIDS infected inhabitants is increasing because my country tries to live up to the NSUN regulations and resolutions...


Actually, if it is a legal method of employment, it does qualify. If it doesn't, then your government has fallen down on the job and your government should be the ones punished, not the prostitutes. Do your job in your own nation before you try to change it in others.

I am not talking about punishing anybody! I am simply a person who wants to participate and improve things here, but then again, you wouldn't know since you are thinking stamping somebody in the ground improves the debate... well guess what, I am willing to help in any resolution that legalizes prostitution, but the resolution itself is just too vague, I just want to repeal this reso and try to establish a better one with people like you... I mean, we are all debating here and everybody is always saying that things need improvement, why not make a resolution that is just solid instead of a reso that says nothing more than: ahh poor people, at least you can go into prostitution...


Easily. The moment it became legal, it required a license. Those operating without a license are sent to work on the orbital platforms above Terran and Terrator. Also, it being legal means they can accept a wide range of payment options and have to give reciepts or bills. You would be surprised how many prostitutes use the legal system to sue for unpaid bills in my nation. In the end, they make more money, have better lifestyles, and I get more tax revenue.

WHY NOT PUT THAT IN THE NEW RESO!!! you are saying that it became legal and should therefor require a license, but that is not what the resolution states, it states that every person should be able to go on the street in difficult times and 'do' some customers and then head back home without any further strings attached...


Everybody, I am in favour of the legalization of prostitution and I am willing to do anything to make it all legal, but this resolution does not contribute in solving the problem, I could make an improvement to the reso, but in my view I still have to scratch the entire resolution and start it from scratch, I promise that if this repeal gets through I will contribute in to making a new resolution that is more specific...

Also, you have to tell me how you guys make husbands and wives pay with creditcard or any other electronical payment device, because in my country they don't seem to do that because the wives and husbands then find out their partners have gone to a prostitute lately, I know, weird, butsadly, that is the fact in our country....

WHY NOT PUT THAT IN THE NEW RESO!!! you are saying that it became legal and should therefor require a license, but that is not what the resolution states, it states that every person should be able to go on the street in difficult times and 'do' some customers and then head back home without any further strings attached...

But by leaving the regulations up to the individual nations it allows nations who are opposed to it (like mine) to put so many regulations in place that it is completely unprofitable and effectivly ban the practise while still complying with the UN.

You are totally right, this is a very good reso, all it says is: legalize prostitution... furthermore it does not give any advice what-so-ever on what nations should do to implement this... Off course countries can implement their own laws, but that is an argument you can use on everything and if that would be flawless, we wouldn't really be in need of a NSUN anyway...

I am fully aware of the fact that not all governments have wellfare systems, but I don't see what that has to do with the countries that DO have this system...

Not all governments feel it is their job to take care of the poor. The resolution covered that in a way.

An emotive argument is still an argument, and the fact that it has no scientific evidence to back it up doesn't automatically mean that an argument is emotive... also, you are the one not giving an argument, you withdraw the attention to other subjects by means of statement.
anyway, I do not (yet) see any evidence that backs up your argument either...

Emotive arguements are not given much respect on here. They tend to come from people who can't win logically and are trying to pull heart strings to win that way. It's a very cheap tactic and in some cases tantamount to flamebait.

And, you're right. I haven't been posting evidence. Most of my statements are relying on the fact you have to go around asking individual nations about it.

Furthermore, why shouldn't we be able to help those countries without a wellfare system that do find it degrading... I know you can simply wave it off by saying: shouldn't they make their own laws about that?

Making their own laws about it is part of their job. Their job is to mold the UN resolutions to fit their nations to the best of their ability. In some cases, finding loopholes or ways around the resolutions (such as my dealing with hydrogen-powered cars by moving to a type of aircraft instead).

Also, those nations that do not have welfare systems generally don't want them either. Trying to help them get one is insulting to them and may lead to war.

but some nations DO respect the decisions made by the NSUN and mold their countries by it... and then there is another thing, if we can make laws about anything we want we wouldn't be in need of a NSUN anyway, now would we?

Actually, we have no need for it at all. We never did. Most people mistakenly join it thinking they need to or that the NSUN carries some kind of prestige. All it gives you is the fact it overrides your national sovereignity and you have a group or two out to get you just because they hate the UN. If you bothered to notice, membership is not mandatory and the majority of nations get along just fine without membership.

This is classic, I know your country might not agree with my policy on this, but my country is not going to punish it inhabitants for carrying a disease, and it is my right to not put this recommendation to a use... my own problem? sure, whatever you want, that your opinion about my nation, but the fact is that this IS my country's policy and that the number of HIV/AIDS infected inhabitants is increasing because my country tries to live up to the NSUN regulations and resolutions...

Stop trying to take them literally and start trying to see how you can mold them to make your nation better. Part of their purpose is to be molded and changed by nation laws. That's why they are so general.

You can't actually violate them, but you can find ways around them.

I am not talking about punishing anybody! I am simply a person who wants to participate and improve things here, but then again, you wouldn't know since you are thinking stamping somebody in the ground improves the debate... well guess what, I am willing to help in any resolution that legalizes prostitution, but the resolution itself is just too vague, I just want to repeal this reso and try to establish a better one with people like you... I mean, we are all debating here and everybody is always saying that things need improvement, why not make a resolution that is just solid instead of a reso that says nothing more than: ahh poor people, at least you can go into prostitution...

It's vague so individual nations can mold it to their laws. Part of the point of the wording.

If you really want to improve it so much, do it on an individual level. The vagueness of it allows you to regulate and mold it as you see fit as long as you are not actually violating it. You can, if you play your cards right, even make prostitution effectively illegal while still not violating the resolution.

Having a resolution that gets specific tends to create a resolution that does not apply to every nation in the UN. You have to have some way to have a resolution that applies to every nation while still being specific enough it is not shot down for vagueness. They all walk this fine line, and many get shot down before they even have a chance.

WHY NOT PUT THAT IN THE NEW RESO!!! you are saying that it became legal and should therefor require a license, but that is not what the resolution states, it states that every person should be able to go on the street in difficult times and 'do' some customers and then head back home without any further strings attached...

Never said anything about no "further strings attached." Just said they should "'do' some customers and then head back home" in difficult times. My nation took it a bit further and requires a license and then set health standards and safety regulations. Nowhere in the resolution does it state I cannot do that.

Everybody, I am in favour of the legalization of prostitution and I am willing to do anything to make it all legal, but this resolution does not contribute in solving the problem, I could make an improvement to the reso, but in my view I still have to scratch the entire resolution and start it from scratch, I promise that if this repeal gets through I will contribute in to making a new resolution that is more specific...

The repeal has been tried 32 times already with all attempts failing to reach quorum. Some of the arguements were actually pretty good. Most of them were not.

The problem you have is you are trying to repeal this so you can improve it. You have to effectively tell the majority of NS that they are wrong and then, after they repeal it, convince them they were wrong again and pass a new resolution. People tend not to respond well to that. Instead, write a resolution that tries to establish standards of health and safety for occupations related to health and include prostitution in the list of occupations.

I agree that legalizing prostitution should be repealed. Its a major contribution to crime and to the spread of the AIDS/HIV virus. To pass it is to increase the number of citizens partaking in this profession, which means the considerable rise in crime and sexual diseases.

I agree that legalizing prostitution should be repealed. Its a major contribution to crime and to the spread of the AIDS/HIV virus. To pass it is to increase the number of citizens partaking in this profession, which means the considerable rise in crime and sexual diseases.

1) Been over this already.

2) If your government did its job, those increases would not exist.

I agree that legalizing prostitution should be repealed. Its a major contribution to crime and to the spread of the AIDS/HIV virus. To pass it is to increase the number of citizens partaking in this profession, which means the considerable rise in crime and sexual diseases.

So a legal occupation contributes to crime. Really. :rolleyes: And you don't educate your sex workers about STDs. Really. :rolleyes:

ok, I like the entire fact that you all think that this problem can be solved if prostitutes wear a condom, but it can't, condoms rip and some STD are not stopped by wearing a condom at all... and I know your countries don't have this problem, but in my country there is a big crime-rate that is linked to prostitution...

Also, how are you guys ensuring that a check-up is done after every 'job', for as far as we know, your entire population could be infected in 1 night...

ok, I like the entire fact that you all think that this problem can be solved if prostitutes wear a condom, but it can't, condoms rip and some STD are not stopped by wearing a condom at all... and I know your countries don't have this problem, but in my country there is a big crime-rate that is linked to prostitution...

1) Provide far more funding to police. Mine are actually my top priority in my budget.

2) We've developed designer-condoms with that in mind. Multiple layers. The Johns have a choice between that or a complete medical checkup, which includes blood testing, DNA testing, and complete examinations of their bodies. You'd be surprised how quickly the spread of vampirism dropped after those regulations. Of course, we have more advanced medical technology, but I'm sure you can find ways to deal with them.

Also, how are you guys ensuring that a check-up is done after every 'job', for as far as we know, your entire population could be infected in 1 night...

AIs in computers. They can run through the entire genetic structure of a person in under an hour. They run all of the medical checks, look for anything that comes across as a health concern, and then either clear or call for a quarantine of the prostitute. Due to DLE laws requiring all people who break quarantine to be executed and requiring all prostitutes who refuse to do the checkup after every John to be quarantined, I find it's not a problem.

The Oppressed Peoples of Asshelmetta (and most especially their UN representative, YGSM) are strongly in favor of prostitution rights.

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ok, I like the entire fact that you all think that this problem can be solved if prostitutes wear a condom, but it can't, condoms rip and some STD are not stopped by wearing a condom at all... and I know your countries don't have this problem, but in my country there is a big crime-rate that is linked to prostitution...

Also, how are you guys ensuring that a check-up is done after every 'job', for as far as we know, your entire population could be infected in 1 night...

You're allowing criminals to interfere with a legal occupation? Do they interfere with car salesmen as well? Hairdressers? Doctors?

We suggest more police, better training.

And as prostitutes are not "forbidden fruit", we do not find the "problem" you do. They are professionals, they conduct themselves professionally.

We have also discovered several topical and oral antivirals, which can be used by these workers, to kill any and all pathogens introduced before they can enter the body - testing was done to the public and with consent, on a much larger scale then a simple laboratory test could manage. While not 100% effective, it is an additional protection.

Once again - we submitted to the resolution, and adapted. By adapting, we came out ahead.