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Right, i know that people are just going to think i'm another whining little git complaining that my badly thought out proposal was deleted, but i just want to make a point so that my next peoplasl doesnt get deleted along similer lines. my proposal stated thus:

OBSERVING that this proposal has the aim of legislating the production and growth of the marijuana plant (Cannabis Sativa) and using its properties in a controlled manner for the treatment of many dehabilitating diseases.

OBSERVING that research has shown that smoking cannabis can help to alleviate muscle trauma in patients with MS (Multiple Sclerosis); other patients have also reported reduced pain and easier movement of joints after mild doses of cannabis or cannaboids.

VOUCHING that independent studies in California, New Mexico, Michigan, Tennessee and Georgia have proven that marijuana smoking is a very effective Antiemetic (relieves nausea and vomiting), and that it has also proved superior to current drugs, such as Torecan, Compazine, and even the synthetic THC pill.

CONFIRMING that a legalisation of marijuana for recreational use is neither implied nor requested by this proposal, the drug will ONLY be used in medical situations where it would provide the most effective treatment.


RECOGNIZES that medcinal marijuana has signficant beneficial effects and no serious adverse ones; we propose that marijuana is legalised in all member states for medicinal purposes ONLY.

CONCLUDES that we believe this resolution will reduce the suffering of many of the worlds terminally ill patients, and therefore is an issue that all nations should take a positive interest in.


now, the reason for deletion was stated thus:

NationStates Moderators
Received: 2 hours ago Please don't confuse the real world with NationStates. References to California, Michigan, etc do not belong in NSUN Proposals. Furthermore, Proposals for medicinal marijuana belong under "Recreational Drugs: Legalize". "Medicinal Marijuana" has been deleted.

I fully understand the deletion, and have no problem with the disallowmwnt of mentioning Real Life places or studies in the proposal, and i will not make that mistake again.

The Problem i have is that this proposal SPECIFICLY STATES that it is not interested in relaxing laws on recreational drugs, this law is about medicinal drugs, and has nothing to do with legilising ANYTHING for recreational use. I would like to propose this law again, without the real life exerts, and again under Human Rights, as it is about the legislation of a particuler drug as a Medicine, for the betterment of medical treatment and quality of life for terminally ill patients. I would just like to get this straight before it is deleted again.

If you need it, I have a list of the nearly 60 delegates approving this proposal before it was deleted. Also I would advise, before you resubmit that you correct two spelling errors:

RECOGNIZES that medicinal marijuana has signficant beneficial effects

I personally don't care if they're there or not, I've amde plenty of spelling errors myself, in fact, My "Reformed Literacy Initiative" has a glaringly dumb typo in its final and favorite clause. However, there are some nations out there which do get a bit picky about spelling errors, and it might hurt your chances with those nations.

Also, I'd advise consultation with a mod before resubmission, too. I'd hate for you to get another 60 approvals and have it deleted again. You need to post something in the "Moderation" forum, if you haven't already. This is the most likely place for them, or other well-meaning NSers to consider which category is most appropriate. I'm no expert on categories by any rights, so don't ask me. But do ask someone.

Good Luck!

I personally don't care if they're there or not, I've amde plenty of spelling errors myself,

Was that intentional?

In one of the 'sexes' proposals I had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 6, or something of that effect.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World

yeh, i would like to talk to a mod about it, the problem is i dont come on the main NS jolt forum much, so i dotn know who the mods are, and if i create a similer topic on the moderation forum, they'll probobly just move it back to here...

thanks for the support anyway, and i know i'm a terrible speller!

Was that intentional?

In one of the 'sexes' proposals I had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 6, or something of that effect.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World


Er, oops. No, sorry, that wasn't intentional. Hahaha, wow. I really need to proofread more.

thanks for the support anyway, and i know i'm a terrible speller!

Well, having only two mistakes isn't all that bad. The vast majority of it was very well spelt (teehee).

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7566596&postcount=2

If you're going to redraft, can you take into account the comment I made in the thread on the original proposal?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7776530&postcount=6

RE:Myopia: Yes, ive already seen the requests on the other thread regarding nations who already have it legilised, and i will modify it when i redraft it.

RE:Glorious Hack: I can see why you want it under the drugs catagory, i just feel the the name you have chosen for it, 'recreational drugs' doesn't fit my proposal at all well, since it should have no effect on recreational drugs at all. I think this is just the cane of an unfortunate catagory name that can confuse people.

My point is, that if i was saying for example, legilise the fictional drug Quantifuropaneium for medicinal use, then it wouldnt come under recreational drugs, it is only because of the fact that everyone knows of the name marijuana as a recreational drug, they assume it should come under the recreational drugs catagory. whereas i am treating it just like any other medicinal drug would be treated.

just a little bumpage here... anyone to reply to the last point?

RE:Myopia: Yes, ive already seen the requests on the other thread regarding nations who already have it legilised, and i will modify it when i redraft it.

Thanks. When you redraft, can you post it in a thread for feedback before you submit it?

Agreed, had you been speaking about a new kind of cancer treatment, or Vioxx, that was just recalled in the us, no one would ask you to put it in recreational drugs.

While I would support the legalization of recreational drugs, this is not for recreation.

This is a painkiller.

It's morphine, or oxycontin, or valium, for people who are in pain 24/7.

They can be used recreationally, but a resolution about using them medicinally has nothing to do with that.

I think if the mods have made a ruling, you should probably just go with it. The category isn't that important anyway, it's just stats - the important thing is the content of the proposal.

The category isn't that important anyway, it's just stats - the important thing is the content of the proposal.
Maybe to you, but not to an awful lot of players. Here in the UN forum we might endlessly quibble over language, but the casual voter is VERY interested in the stats aspect of it.

If you can't make it work within an existing category, I'd recommend abandoning your effort until new categories are added. Despite one poster's opinion, there are members who pay CLOSE attention to category.

Sorry, wasn't thinking about it from the perspective of the average casual voter. You're right, of course, that category is important for getting it passed, it's just that I've basically given up on my stats so I barely ever consider them any more.

Still, it's probably worth a try under the mod-recommended drug category, if you put something right at the top about how it isn't a legalisation of recreational marijuana.