NationStates Jolt Archive

Currently, there is a proposal to ban nuclear weapons. I ask that as many of you as possible approve it. To get to it, go to the list of proposals and search the word "nuclear". It will appear.

I think it's reasonable for our constituents to ask to live without fear of an eventual nuclear holocaust.

All proponents of nuclear non-proliferation and outright banning should give it their support! The first step is to make it a resolution that council can vote on.

Let's make it happen!

Been tried before, did not work for the one key reason that not all the nations are in the UN. Therefore, disarmanent doesn't significantly reduce the threat of a big nuclear war and instead leaves nations without some of their most effective deterrents against aggression.

Personally, of course, I'm all for that kind of thing but in the situation we have here, not workable.

Here's 346 posts about the subject that we don't have to cover again (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=371293).

This UN resolution failed in vote at the General Assembly on November 9, 2004. Do we have to do it again?

We COULD ban nuclear weapons and have a tactical defence system. Also, we could impose economic sanctions on every nation who is thought to have a nuclear arsenal.

It's not that difficult to disarm the world.

(Another thing is having bombs that can take out missile silos...science has almost no limits here...)

We COULD ban nuclear weapons and have a tactical defence system. Also, we could impose economic sanctions on every nation who is thought to have a nuclear arsenal.

It's not that difficult to disarm the world.

(Another thing is having bombs that can take out missile silos...science has almost no limits here...)

Except, we're not that powerful, and we are the minority. Sanctioning non-UN member nations, would be like giving Bill Gates a 500 dollar a day fine for insider trading...... Sure, it takes money away, but it does so in such miniscule amounts as to ammount to nothing, realistically.

This is an issue which has been raised on many occations. And exausted by the member body. Not a single "new" argument has been presented on this issue.

We COULD ban nuclear weapons in the NSUN and have a tactical defence system in the NSUN. Also, we could impose economic sanctions on every nation in the NSUN who is thought to have a nuclear arsenal. in the NSUN

It's not that difficult to disarm the world, or at least the NSUN members.

(Another thing is having bombs that can take out missile silos...science has almost no limits here...)
...bold text portions added for clarity of argument. You might also remember that NSUN members are only about a third of the world, and we have NO jurisdiction outside of our membership.

We COULD ban nuclear weapons and have a tactical defence system. Also, we could impose economic sanctions on every nation who is thought to have a nuclear arsenal.
We could not as well.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States

We COULD ban nuclear weapons and have a tactical defence system. Also, we could impose economic sanctions on every nation who is thought to have a nuclear arsenal.

It's not that difficult to disarm the world.

(Another thing is having bombs that can take out missile silos...science has almost no limits here...)

I have bombs that are bigger than thermonukes, so go ahead. I'll enjoy the fact I no longer have to worry about one of the few weapons capable of wiping out my attack fleets that Earth possesses being eliminated. In fact, if this passes, I think I'll just annex you for the fun of it. After all, you can't exactly shoot back and expect to take out my ships.

The above is an illustration of another reason it is bad to ban nukes.

Well, I guess I'll have to protect my nation with an impermeable force field.

All you warmongering nations can nuke the Hell out of each other.

Well, I guess I'll have to protect my nation with an impermeable force field.

All you warmongering nations can nuke the Hell out of each other.
We're a pretty peace-loving bunch here, actually. We're just counting on the philosophy of Mutually Assured Destruction to keep the nasty warmongerers stymied. Your proposal would take away that option.

Well, I guess I'll have to protect my nation with an impermeable force field.

All you warmongering nations can nuke the Hell out of each other.

That's actually godmodding, which will get your nation tossed into a black hole by Nergal. He is an egotistical god who wants only his friends to have the power of gods.

I'm not playing God. My nation has just been blessed with a highly intelligent populace!

Well, I guess I'll have to protect my nation with an impermeable force field.

All you warmongering nations can nuke the Hell out of each other.

Possessing nukes, or other high-yield weapons in the case of many of us FT nationstates. Does not equate us to being "war-mongerers" as you put it.

Yes, the Republic has weapons, and very high-yield ones at that (far in excess of meager 'nukes'.); but.... I will let our international reputation speak for itself.

We have never instigated war between another nation.

You want the "Horrifically Insane RP Area Where Everyone Eventually Goes Nuts". They're on the 5th floor.

I'm not playing God. My nation has just been blessed with a highly intelligent populace!

So is mine, and we're scientifically advanced enough to know no type of shielding or force field is impermiable.

If you are worried about nukes, just do as we did: order a nice IGNORE Cannon today! You won't need to worry about any invasion, ever!

Of course, he'll end up ignored by the entire community for ignoring a legitimate method of attack, so that may not be smart.

Other "war-mongering" actions by the Constitutional Republic of Tekania have included.....

1. Positioning our ships inbetween two warring factions, and sacrificing our forces to bring the two factions to the peace table.

2. Positioning Tekanian Stellar forces between factions, to thward an escalating assault between the factions. Leading to a lasting peace, and even a mutual alliance between them.

3. Defending weaker, non space-faring planets from assult by other space-faring nations.

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What have you done to make peace in the nationstates universe, again? That is beside talk about disarming a segment of the peacemaking planet, to control an international enviroment to which you have never played an active role in.

So is mine, and we're scientifically advanced enough to know no type of shielding or force field is impermiable.
I wouldn't be so sure about that, we have a shield that's based on I.G.N.O.R.E. technology. Let's see you try to penetrate that.:D

I wouldn't be so sure about that, we have a shield that's based on I.G.N.O.R.E. technology. Let's see you try to penetrate that.:D

"Nutcase Strategy #54783"

1. Finds where you live.
2. Hunts you down.
3. Fires real bullets at close range.

Any questions?

This is to illustrate No Technology Is Perfect. ;)


And I think we've buried this proposal yet again. We're not banning nukes, stop trying. The arguement "for" is silly no matter what way you look at it.

And I think we've buried this proposal yet again. We're not banning nukes, stop trying. The arguement "for" is silly no matter what way you look at it.

Good, means my Uranium mining industry is safe for now :D

How about puting a limit on numbers of radioactive warheads that countries can have? How about a warhead for food(or some other service) plan like the oil for food plan?

How about puting a limit on numbers of radioactive warheads that countries can have? How about a warhead for food(or some other service) plan like the oil for food plan?
Why?

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World