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Support the repeal of "Education For All"!

Pilot
20-12-2004, 20:16
To: Member States of the United Nations
Re: United Nations Resolution 3, Education for All

Pilot has introduced legislation to the United Nations floor that would repeal United Nations Resolution 3, entitled "Education For All". This is not because we don't value education, it is our number one priority. However, it occurs to us that United Nations Resolution 28 (entitled "Free Education") expands the parameters of the former resolution and therefore, #3 is no longer needed in U.N. books. We implore all delegates to aid us in cleaning out the U.N.'s dated resolutions.

And while you're in the vicinity, approve Pilot's other proposal the "NS HIV AIDS Act"

~ Pilot Ambassador to the United Nations Nicolas Dannon
Pilot
20-12-2004, 22:21
OOC Resurface
Powerhungry Chipmunks
21-12-2004, 14:08
Repeal "Education For All"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Description: UN Resolution #3: Education For All (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: RECOGNIZING the need to clean the United Nations portfolio of useless and dated resolutions;

RESOLVES to repeal United Nations Resolution 3 for the reason herein:

1. United Nations Resolution 28 mandates that all children below the age of 18 be allowed a free education;

RESOLVES to repeal this discripancy which can be exploited by uncooperative states.

Voting Ends: Thu Dec 23 2004


The repeal is at the bottom of the page here (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/45928/page=UN_proposal/start=75) for today (Tuesday).
DemonLordEnigma
21-12-2004, 18:35
It's not going to pass just because most people won't read past the name. Sorry.
Pilot
21-12-2004, 18:39
I just think it's time to remove the legislation. Currently, I'm working on re-submitting the AIDS proposal, but after the holidays, I'll make a real effort to get the repeal approved.
_Myopia_
21-12-2004, 18:45
You know, I think it's a good safeguard to leave it there. There will always be some people that want to repeal #28 (Free Education), and if by some obscure chance they succeeded, at least we'd have #3 (Education for All) until we could pass another proposal to bring back education rights all the way to 18.
Pilot
21-12-2004, 18:53
As you said, I think the chances of a repeal of Free Education being approved without a reason like the one I have for Education for All are so small that it is worth the irks. It is time to get rid of some of hte needless resolutions that are bogging down the repeal sections and that are so dated, they've been replaced by other resolutions.
The Black New World
21-12-2004, 18:59
We agree with _Myopia_. And, well, I don't think it's worth the effort.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States
Powerhungry Chipmunks
22-12-2004, 00:48
It's not going to pass just because most people won't read past the name. Sorry.

Actually, considering the author, I think it probably will pass. Pilot knows firsthand the value of telegram campaigns and has the expertise to execute them effectively. I was going to offer my help with the resubmission of his HIV/AIDS proposal, but then I realized I should probably ask for His help in proposals. Pilot is a nation which knows what it's doing, I perceive, and I think they'll get this one through, sooner or later.

You know, I think it's a good safeguard to leave it there. There will always be some people that want to repeal #28 (Free Education), and if by some obscure chance they succeeded, at least we'd have #3 (Education for All) until we could pass another proposal to bring back education rights all the way to 18.

Er, uh...yeah, sure. That shows a whole lot of faith in democracy. If a repeal to #28 were to pass (such a remote improbability it borders impossibility), it would be because the majority of UN nations voting voted for the repeal. That's the way democracy works. If the majority of voting UN nations decide something isn't an international issue, I don't see any pressing need for some to impose it upon them. Also, I don't quite understand the sense of urgency...if #28 did get repealed after this'n, your country doesn't have to stop funding education up to 18. As fun as it might be to play international fashion police other UN nations don’t desperately "need" to be told to grant free education to age 18. Not all nations are lost to barbarism without the UN keeping them civilized. Even if they were, this repeal doesn't do that. It just tries to reduce waste.
DemonLordEnigma
22-12-2004, 01:37
Actually, considering the author, I think it probably will pass. Pilot knows firsthand the value of telegram campaigns and has the expertise to execute them effectively. I was going to offer my help with the resubmission of his HIV/AIDS proposal, but then I realized I should probably ask for His help in proposals. Pilot is a nation which knows what it's doing, I perceive, and I think they'll get this one through, sooner or later.

Are we forgetting that the Rights of Minorities and Women resolution passed because of the sheer mindless idiot factor?

He may be good at telegramming, but he has to contend with the sheer mindless idiot factor. They'll take one look, not bother to read anything more than the title, and make the arguement he's trying to repeal the idea of people being given free education. And there isn't much he can do to cut through their stupidity.
_Myopia_
22-12-2004, 21:18
Er, uh...yeah, sure. That shows a whole lot of faith in democracy. If a repeal to #28 were to pass (such a remote improbability it borders impossibility), it would be because the majority of UN nations voting voted for the repeal. That's the way democracy works. If the majority of voting UN nations decide something isn't an international issue, I don't see any pressing need for some to impose it upon them. Also, I don't quite understand the sense of urgency...if #28 did get repealed after this'n, your country doesn't have to stop funding education up to 18. As fun as it might be to play international fashion police other UN nations don’t desperately "need" to be told to grant free education to age 18. Not all nations are lost to barbarism without the UN keeping them civilized. Even if they were, this repeal doesn't do that. It just tries to reduce waste.

OOC: I don't actually have much faith left in democracy...

IC: Of course we recognise that we would be able to continue our education programs. _Myopia_ just doesn't feel that any young people should be denied the right to an education, even if the majority of UN member governments were to disagree. Yes, it's an outside possibility that #28 would be repealed, but given that we lose nothing by leaving #3 in place, we think that it is worth leaving there, just in case.
Pilot
23-12-2004, 04:58
OOC: It was more of a test ballon anyways. It'll fail to reach quorum, as expected. After I get back from Christmas break, I'll make a real push to get some of the useless resolutions out of the U.N. portfolio. Until then, don't worry about this one anymore.