NationStates Jolt Archive

hello.

i am Dr. Vali Jones, international liason for the Commonwealth of terran individualists. recently we were invited to join your group -- the U. N. you call yoruselves -- and actually after discussion decided to apply and were to our mild suprioise acepted.

however the invitation was lost in tha mail and we basically blew it off. life went on. we are anarchists. whatever you want to do is fine but basically the opollution stuff is annoying. you guys should get on that.
we are atavistic anarchists with almost no actual output -- our currency is the hug so no one minds the high tax rate or the imploded economy -- and our national animal is the melon tree. so we eat a lot of melons and make fun of you political types. sometimes we fear the end of the world but we feel that humans are basically good at heart so we figure eventually you will stop being stupid and warlike and evoleve. like we have.
we just wanted to let you know we were here.

being atavistic and anarchistic we view your united nations as sort of ludicrous -- al humanity is already united by our status as sentient beings and humans. but we are mystics and sit eating melons.

you should try it! it's a great way to relax.

otherwise...sort of leave us alone.

oh yeah and make those monotheists stop that war. your god wants you to know that they are EMBARASSED.

Impersonalism is a barrier to be overcome
success is practically inevitable

By Doktor V. Hipwel-Jones
the Church of The SubGenius
Dobbs-Rewardian

"endtimes have neded...snap out of it."


i am sick to death of aryanism and its lies, its deceptions and
continual insistence that it is the only way righteous. whether it is
the varnashramadharma of the Indian subcontinent that insists that
peopel be separated opn a skin color and social class based system of
doio0mination -- the continual militant class war insistence of
international socialism (congrats to the fifth internationslists! Now
stop it -- we want to live free) or the white power skiheads and ku
klux klan "christians" whom do NOT represent the prince of peace --
a HEBREW they would have hated if their current rhetoric is consistent
-- Aryanism is no good for anyplace it hangs out. it is oimpersonalist
and cruel and has been whever it has existed -- even if it was the
ancient warrirors of hellas in the time of Plato and Aristotle and
caesar praying to Ares for victory in battle and rusing oiff to
martial glory.

therewas philosophy on Earth before Areanism and the challenge that
military religion and racist domination faces the human race is
arguably THE CHALLENGE -- and therefore discussions that address
issues without acknowledging this problem can be said to be, for
better or worse, somewhere closer or farther to absured -- they may
convey information buut do they solve problems?
we have all learned a lot.
do we apply the learning as human beings to effectively solve the
probelms -- for good -- or do we lame out on our human potential
saying "there's nothing that can be done, it;'s huan nature" and thus
waste our human potential
?

oh, you think you're sick of me NOW? I'm bucking for your deepest
attention here. the midnds divorced frm the heart are the subject of
my probing -- what i represent is something we are all familiar with
yet forget about each year, just about the time it's time to exchange
presents and fee; "hood" about ourselves.


after a while when you realise the trap of impersonalism -- what an
error it is, what a wall building mistake --
you see the rush of pain as people slide back into impersonal
careers and forced relationships and the sadism of traps, of traps
insisted that must be accepted without question
you will recognize the deepest level of Tolkien's great metaphor of
thering that shareth NOT! and turns the holder into the mad fool who
would go

allow themselves to be devoured.

they can't take it with them but what would they care, they would gain
the world but lose their soul. die with the most toys. win.

after a while you will see that it is THAT which empowers the
conspiracy and says "well, it's human nature." i hope you feel the
good pain of the dormant heart energy consciousness returning, i hope
you feel the cosmic irony and that it seems a little unbearable --
not because i am sadistic at all. because i hope you feel your real
human nature returning. human nature is not evil. human nature is
nature. the mistake of mistrust of human nature, of natrure -- is the
error of the western mind since the rennaisance. nature is nature and
actually often lovely -- this realisation will save us. not ghe
'proles' who cannot wake up. forgive george orwell because by the time
he figured out what he was doing it already too late. socialists and
capitalists are the head and tail of ouroborous, feeding on each
other. wake up and see.


and to add to this late autumn's dissertatiion i will say that
the way of the world is not the way of earth and heaven.

meanwhile the madness. it's not their fault they don't realise that
capitalism is psychosis AND schizophrenia, is practically against God
and all that She offers -- for free. it's not their fault that they
don't see it -- for so many it is a great way to do business. while
the bombs fall and the bodies rot in the sun. i mean it's christmas.
this is the time to do business! what are you shirking for. you have
too much free time. you should get back to work.

orwell was a recovering nutcase when he wrote 1984 - iun his extreme
insanity, in the depths of his psychosis he killed for the communists,
and when he realise what he had contributed to -- he attempted to warn
the world. it is twenty years after 1984. enjoy the cold impersonal
words that echo out of your state sponsered viewscreen. the clocks are
striking thirteen, and i am thirteen lucky enough to tell you about
what i have experienced during the beating that never ends as the
clocks poind me every second with their delusion of time. it is the
same time in california as it is n washington as i write this but the
clocks say different. time is relative: capitalism is schizophrenia.
and a clock is a little VORTEX that sucks you into doing things that
bring you no real joy. on time. day in. day out, get back to work,
YOU.

remember matt groening?

love may accompany the placement of the words but a viewscreen cannot
love you. fifth international what? don't forget to thank al gore for
inventing this and for fighting so hard for 'democracy.' there is no
conspiracy. only the truly insane say stuff like that.

attempt to hug someone today, or if not practical (it is, i bet)
squeeze out a tear for homo sapiens.

it is we who must change if these situations are to change.

listen as the insane lie, determined to keep everyone else lying and
insane too. listen as the mad attempt to drag the sane down into the
hell pit of their unloving delusion. because if there is a state akin
to hell in the earth - life it is this unlovingness that justifies
capitalism (slavery) and socialism (trendy cool slavery of the last
150 years) and threatens to drag all organic life into obeisance to
the international cruelty machine. George hates his job too, George
W. Bush? HATES his job.

that's the cold hard truth. hates his job. at this point wants to get
if, get right with god. KNOWS what he is doing is wrong. dark father
manipulates him all through his life. dark designings force his
hand. he wants out. how many others do you know who hate their jobs
but say they can't quit? he is one of them.

and you know of course people who hate sometimes are motivated to
justify killing. hatred and kiling are related. there is no joy in
Bush's job, and he hates it and the babies die. capitalism is
psychosis, it is a creeping insanity, a true mental illness. anorexia
is an emotional imbalance as are other diagnosed sicknesses. emotional
which is why the dry Ahrimanical doctors with their poking and
scanning and pills never cure it and so many other mental illnesses --
they, the illnesses, are emotional -- they are looking in the worng
place --

and no one can pay for compassion. you can't buy the compassion that
the emotionally imbalanced need for recovery in a store.

CAPITALISM is a mental illness -- capitalism is schizophrneia. before
you think that i am whoring deleuze and derrida -- i most certainly am
not. their insanity was to think that socialism was better. bot re the
different lobes of teh diseased human brain -- socialism and
capitalism are the left and right brain divorced from the human heart
-- they are the twin towers of tolkien's dark tapestry -- and the one
ring beguiles them as they seek to own what can not be owned. the
earth and her resources, humanity.

while you are wishing this were not so, realise its deep truth. and
feel compassion for the functioning insane who lurch from event to
event, from action to action, sick with insanity.

forgive them: they have no idea what they are really doing --even if
they say they are.
forgive them; they don't know what they're doing -- but the fact that
they have the dimmest idea of what they are missing -- freedom -- may
be the factor that changes nightmare into dream...

only the sanity of the compassionate will save us from these
madnesses. if there is any hope, it is in the truly caring, the truly
compassionate, the truly loving. while you are wishing that what i
say to you were not true...

do think again. capitalisim and socialism are the left and right
halves of the diseased human mind divorced from its heart -- they are
madness and of course insanity is simpoly insanity.

like the mad struggling to justify their madness they will accuse us,
like christian hypocrites who cannot walk on water like even the weak
doubter almost could in his finest moment of judging -- they are just
hypocrites. capitalism and socialism are twin psychoses, pretending
that they are both the right way.

they are two turds in a bowl flushing over and over again.

simple. true. utter. stark.

"sorry."

John Galt would dress it up for you but of course he was sick with
influenza, the fragmented nightmare of alice rosenbaum's
stalin-terrorized fantasies.

do you see? alice rosenbaum in a fit of mortal terror, fled russia
and changed her name to ayn rand because SOCIALISM IS BIZZARE AND
CRUEL DEHUMANIZING SELF AGGRINDIZING SLAVERY AND HURTFUL
DEHUMANIZATION.

the socialists who i have critizicized in their conceit would call
this statement revenge -- they are woefuly blind. far away in a
socialist regime young children i do not know will work at shit labor
for 78 cents a month, too frightened to complain and having little
hoipe for the future.

while in america the ooverpriveleged -- via capitalism -- and
undereducated -- about socialism -- wil march and scream smash the
state and workers' rights. they are not anarchists. they are idiots.
only compassion will save them.


socialism is psychosis.
alice rosenbaum fled this nightmare excuse for government and came to
america and went off the OTHER deep end. changed her name to ayn rand
and became enraptured woith the emopty excesses of the United States.
became a champion of selfish capitalism, blind to the killing. sh's
dead now. she couldn't take it with her.

capitalists and socialists must tell themselves lies of towering
conciet to make their sick designs on the world the harsh reality they
are. my words are vitriol; and fury because they come from the heart.
socialists or capitalism might call this behavior manic. while they
lurch off to contribute to the daily murder of human beings at the
robotic grasping hands of a military industrial complex incapable fo
compassion because it is a giant robot -- a mental phiosophical mecha
that cannot feel because it is a set of prcedures for behavior.

THAT ISN'T LOVE

to avoid schizophrenia to become the self amidst the fragmented and
divided simply know the difference. i am one person. occasionally i
tell a tale and let other voices make a point for me. But Tolkien was
not Saruman or Gandalf, Shakespeare was not Oberon or Romeo and i am
just one person.

i became sane by questining teh insanity all around me until i saw
that it did nopt pplease me, did not bring me joy. sanity is to live
for joy. Perid. look a5round atall we are allegedly proud of. then
count the joyful faces, the people who seem truly full of happiness.
the United States is in the throes of an economic depression and too
proud to admit it -- the rich are choking on their wealth and gaining
no happiness from it and the por are teeming and hopeless.



socialism is psychosis. slavery? "No, this isn't
slavery! I LOVE my job."

data collector #0042: what do you do?

executive secertary:"Huh. Well, everytime i push those -
that button there, liquefied shit comes out of that tube
into a cup. see the tube with the brownish fluid running
throughit? i pan the camera up the office wall, showing
the tube with shit running down.)

when i push the button, a man walks in and drinks the
shit and smiles. i give him a dollar...he gets at the
end of the line and waits and i push the other button.

data collector #0042: what does he get back in line for.

girl: another cop o' doo doo. ya know between you and
me...this is the best job i have had in a while.

data collector #0042: what do they give you so you do
this?

girl: oh, they smack me in the ass with a wire
brush...also, i get a whole BUCKET of shit. those guys
all gt into line over and over again for a cup and have to
get back in line..i just push these buttons, these red and
blue buttons, and i get a whole BUCKET of shit!

data collector #042: what do you do...with the bucket?

oh, i take it home and put it into my husband and kid.
they love the crappy taste...hey, i have to go back to
W*rk now. you should GET IN LINE.

i watched. she pushed the button and the brown oily
liquid dripped from the tube. As i watched as a honest
loking young man approached her desk.,

guy: Um...is this Staffing Services!"

"it certainty is! And here is your cup `o shit! the
line starts again around the block.

i watched with my camera in my hand. the honest eyed
young boy looked as if he was about to leave but she
stopped him., "Just a sec. Drink it up..."

he drank it all.
he seemed to not mind. i knew what was coming out of
that tube though. it wasn't cafe au lait.

girl: show me and the media guy your teeth, would ya
hon?

i held up the camea cued by her gesture. (i am a
professional.) hs teeth were almost caked brown with
fecalmatter..there was even the glint of corn...







socialism is schizophrenia. socialists petend in their tyranical
totalitarian leming daze that everyone thinks like them and those who,
like the author of Cnacer Ward whose name i cannot recall, are
"jealous" -- they are simply in a delusion, in the mad delusion of
tyrants like Napoleon -- who is ANYONE to question their right to
establish total domination of one set of moral percepst? thus
totalitarianism empowers tyrants like Castro and worse.

socialism is psychosis.

socialists practically LOVE capitalism -- ther fight goes on while
they pretend they don't need each other. capitalism begat
socialism
and uses it tomake people PARANOID - the whole Red care - and the
yellow Panic -- were contrived so that people
wouldn't start banding together in the name of peace and
freedom. "can't have that...'

Socialism is just the worship of Ares, the God of war from ancient
hHellas.
once upon a time in aplace that has not been called Mojenjo daro --
except by scholars, historians and archeologists like Indiana Jones --
for ages --beautiful brown skinnepeople were celebrating divine energy
and W*rking on irrigation. then THEY came and enforced a alien way of
life in the name of AES, God of war. this was called Areanism and it
spread. Oh, HOW it spread! how the "religion" of guys who came from
the North of the Dravidian subcontinent got to be embraced by
skinheads in the united states 3400 years later -- liars and racists,
the lot -- is testament of the power of deception to confuse.


give colours back their dignity, their life-ful ness,
take red away from the lying poststalinists, reclaim
green from the inneffectual and insincere mentalists --
environ-mentalists, govern-mentalists W*rking together to
BLOW YOUR MIND ALL THE TIME. if they really cared they `d
have found solutionsby nonstead of excuses.

...take the colours back. rainbows
are beautiful: socialism is psychois and capitalism is
schizoprhenia.
remember it's almost like a horror movie. title: THEY
LIE.

people who are determined to be proud wil become proud
of the lies they have swallowed and the false 'philosophies
rooted ultimatlely in nonthought and handing your autonomy over to a
leader -- like communists don't have a leader in Marx?

that's not anarchism. that's a bunch of actors reading their
little
red scripts even when
they aren't looking. some become so prud of what they have become
that
even when they realise it they say "oh well, we've gotten this far..."
and this is where we get nazis, fascists and the other grim bummers
the Bolsheviks have given to the world.

it certainly isn't leaderlessness.

they are actors, they are off book and performing to
perfection -- no one is allowed to improvise. that could be
anarchic and anarchic people ae selfish -- to hear some
people talk.

yeah, selfish. people who want to think for themselves,
not be told what to do by leaders, but come up with their
own way -- they might diverge from the Party agenda,
from the manifesto's long range plan to create a world
with One Set Adminstration -- a New World Order.
derrida died polishing a turd. ?

socialism seem like something that would create peace and freedom. it
is slavery, glorified, billions of W*rkers ae to cowed to speakout.

i didn't go to W*rk today, i sure as hell doubt i will go
tomorrow. guess MY political philosophy. others share it.
we laugh at the post-bolsheviks.

they have missed the train! and ironically it is bearing down on them
as they sit happily singing W*rker songs and chanting slogans on the
tracks: `THERE IS NO TRAIN! THERE IS NO TRAIN! SMASH THE
STATE!'

these are the people who inspired the word `poseur' to
come out of a punks mouth one day and echo like an
accurate taunt through the decades. rigid and conformist
-- they HATE ANARCHY -- anarchy of the soul and the
actual deeds POINTLESS to them.

Stop all that free action. we're building a world state here and
calling it anarchism -- individualism and truth telling will only
interfere with our party planning.

so stop that free thinking!

we're building a State here.
a state of denial. i pour hot acid on it, i point my
middle finger at it, i laugh , i spread my buttcheeks and
fart at it., it is antigod and theymarch to give it props.


meanwhile in the past the Brahmin priests...just forgive them they
know not what they do -- insist that there are classes that must
exist, a correct class for every person -- and that they must not vary
from that path and that it is righteous to fight to establish and
maintain that class structure that they call varnashramadharma. which
puts people in holes which renders women as slaves

socialism is psychosis, they lie to defend it. Hitler was a psychotic,
as was Prescott Bush who sent his German war campaign pals millions --
from America -- so that Allied soldiers could be butchered.

get the picture? the Inmates are running the asylum. only the
compssionate will push them down. Til then,variations on the same sick
theme. pleasesay something else to me besides "we know."


the other side pretending that ae enemies,
warmongering right wingers giving jesus lipservice.
leaving other people deluded and confused, worshipping
false gods, antigods in their puruiof...whatever?
they are almost completly divorced from desires of real nature.

get the picture? the Inmates are running the asylum. only the
compssionate will push them down. Til then,variations on the same sick
theme. pleasesay something else to me besides "we know."
capitalism is schizophrenia. socialism is rampant
veering, self deluding psychosis.

neither provide freedom. i like any other anarchist am born
free. like any person. anarchists are simply thoseof us
who want to KEEP that freedom so intensely that the lies
of extremists are obvious to us. no freedom that way.
they; lie faciley butwe see through it.

( yes as i write this i inform you I AM ANARCHIST. not socialist.
notice my pointed omission of capitals, that is an artistic choice.
sometimes a joke needs to be explained.)

After a while their repeated lies didn't hurt. oh...they're lying
again. wow.

at first it hurt because they were lying and lying effectivel,
effectively it didn't hurt. they couln't really tell the truth:
like
people who just found weak things to attack beause they were cowardly
on an inner level -- they decided to tell lies about something else...

like the people who for years blamed jews on a death engineered and
carried out by Romans. The jews were tired of the lash of tyrants,
they escaped from Egyptian tyrants to be corralled and herded by Roman
tyrants. then the avatar, yeshua appeared, and the Roman tyrants
wanted him dead, and the jews, terrorized by new ideas coming froon a
God they were used to fearing -- -

and i say "the jews" -- when it was a small number of people, some
tribal leaders whose duty was protection of their tribe. hebrew
leaders in a time befor ethe word "jew" wax even used -- it came
CENTURIES laterout of the mouths of people to whom Aramaic was alost
legend that scholars couldpeice together.

The menacing presence in Rome with armies and soldiers was too martial
to be dealt with -- so the tribal leaders turned to the source of
brute strength.

still the avatar did not die, showing the weakness of the miltary
tyrants, three days later and it was just an NDE for yeshua ben Josef,
or Yeshua hamashia melech Adonai, Yeshua the King of Angels as he is
known by somewho revere his real message.

while bombs fall. that still hurts.


what does this have to do with anything?

when socialists lie and pose as anarchists and real anarchists have to
feel the societal pressure as the lies spread by bolsheviks spread
distrust among those who might have gathered to accept and embrace
anarchism as the W*rkable and practical, sensible philosophy it still
is, and while leaders from the left and the right run amok in an orgy
of blood and greed...and Emma Goldman is dead and i had a liver attack
the oter day that felt like grim death come to claim me...while far
away, socialists were lying and calling it anarchism. they will lie
again tomorrow, decietful state builders...in Cuba they know that
socialism isn't anarchism..that's how conspiraies W*rk: people lie and
lie in teams all spread out but the lies, small in places, build one
big worldwide fifth international stinking massive revulsive pile of
deciet after a few decades...

i felt like lies were powerful and truth was weak and well, i got
better. a little. and they are somewhere lying now, lying and calling
their state building terror machine anarchism but hey! it doesn't hurt
so much now.

it is just a form of denial called transference -- where they use
their intellectual cowardice to justify huge deception...like the
little girl who has to live through something so unspeakable she just
starts telling lies to and about whatever she can...tyranny has
silenmced her truthful side. sometimes people get twisted...

things hurt but that certain thing didn't hurt, transference, self
deception and hopeful
deception of othrers. the truth: lies absurd, lies
projected in the hopes of covering up an emptiness...

"that's not even hope! Hope is something war,
nourishing, considerate! enough of those, they are
simply stuck in dishonesty mode. it is a sickness.
they need HELP."

(angel on my shoulder. she helps me when fakeness predominates.)

socialism is schizophrenia, stupid and self-deluding...it
would drag everyone into the void of slavery.
capitalism is schizophrenia, lying to convince as many
as possible to leach out their own life energy for
little piece of paper having less value than actual shit.
with shit you can compost. money is just delusion.

the whole hypocrisy of those who have been decieved -
como power! decieved and tyrannized...'and you better
act like you LIKE IT, too."

they would be beautiful heaven-beings if they simply knew
how to stop lying, living the lie, wrapping the lie in
denials (that's not clever! baby's first words are
clever. a dog bringing a newspaper, slippers, that's
clever. lies are what people do when they lack the
mental effort to get that TRUTH...and then they LIE
about themselves to make it seem righteous...I HATE That
WORD!!!

then they are released. like vampire lemmings, tearing
into anyone with a semblance of sanity and integrity,
honesty. NO!! SWALLOW THE LIE WE HAVE SWALLOWED!
and of course the ability, no, the cultivated skil, of
lkying to cover up the fact that they lie. socialism is
psychosis.

truth is sublime, beautiful, healing. hope is honest,
loving a provider of balance. hope and truth are
beautiful, healing magical things...when they are absent
it is defaulting...a bummer. someone pinched me just so i
cold remember that was a love...that hope and truth were
what itall about.

that's what i love, when someone helps me wake up, when
the vampire lemmings are at their psychotic worse
spitting deceptions in al directions and saying `no,
it was the DOG that farted. our farts smell like
starwberries."

YOU ARE ALL MY PRISONERS, the proletarian dictator
roared. ALL MY PRISONERS, MY PROPERTY. he was a goof
ball! they had to put more on because he was there.

there wasn't enough, they had to put more on. there
wasn't enough they had to put more on. he was...not the
smartest of guys. the pawn that got queened. i got bored
with chess a LONG time ago. but i see a queened pawn
like a DOLT who is a little child crying out `daddy's
mean to me, so i have to blow up all these kids now, sweet jesus
somebody helpme, ihate my job." the queened pawn.
reading books upside down, no help he despeartely
(influence of Saturn) wants to tell someone, Condi, Rove,
cheney, anyone getmeout of this lousy job...i wanna
relax, i need a break, iwanna go to Molokai and drink mai
tais.. this sucks...there's just no way! AMERICA, HELP
ME,"

the moron queen pawn stutters into microphones, his
forced hybrid Northeern Southern american accent snarling out of sets,
"i hate my job...please...stop me before i kill more!"


capitalism is schizophrenia.

yeah, damn straight. even though i celebrate xmas every day, all year.
i respect (weak word) that everyone doesn't feel that way but i do.
especially since esoteriians know that the choice of 12/25 was to rob
tribal practitioners of their pagan holiday, Yule and put it into the
new diluted xtianity...

nonetheless especially this year, in america.

thanksgiving is a cheap bastard of a day, considering that the
colonists to the americas did exactly to the indigeonous what the
Israeli government is doing to Palestinians...

thanksgiving sux. i give thansk every day. this year after the rigged
cheat laden elections i really felt down.

it just felt like tha balance had shifted towards the smiling bastards
lying ti me everywhere i go and that the mary ellen carter was never
going to rise. it just felt like th balance had shifted towards the
rotten trhe bad guys, who chat overtly and call people who complain
about it 'sore losers.' i gave thanks to god..but i do that every day.
that;'s the weirdness...every day is holy. and peace activists know
that every LIFE is holy too.

and so it is the christmas season, and i am challenged to remeber what
it is about when the coproate empire of emopty culture would have it
be about getting "things" and poor jesus, welll he's just this
symbol...corporate greedists are pushing the worship of what the bible
calls "mammon" -- while what of the legend of christ?

guilt feelings make us blind. i just think on him and once without
spiritual conjecture think that he is simplybetter than christmas.

esotericians place his birth date around august eighth, so i read in
books...making the season now just fraught with capitalistic
overtones...

an obese man in a red suit with a funny name breaks into houses and
enforces greed with a wink...

the situation could inded engender guilt feelings. thus the insanity
of christian theology and dogma after constantine practically
crucified him a second time -- and ALL those bibles...and all those
people thinking that that book named THE BIBLE -- as if it were the
only book in the world!

is the legend of the true god that died yet did not die utterly lost?
since i was a young child i have wondered and sometimes despaired at
christmas time, and i avoid christians because I LOVE JESUS!

ain't that a kick! i love jesus, yeah i love jesus. the religion of
blood and death, the religion of killing ion thename of god seems
confused...and the so called christians say 'don't judge me! don't
judge us!' and go on killing...

they can't bring Him down, but it's still very depressing...

jesus is just a heart on some levels, a heart that loves totally..

i celebrate christmas every single day. it just makes me happy to give
and share even if i don't have a lot. others...i can feel what is
missing in their lives as they mock and sneer. they are frustrating
but i can't bring myself to really hate them -- i just kind of feel
sorry for them.

the love of jesus gives me a real sort of sincere happiness, and
others just close up ! they harden their hearts like Pharoah and call
it something else, "judgmentally' and thus not understanding. what
it's about. he says "judge not" because he wants us to understand. The
whole thing -- he Is Risen -- as in a face of the divine, the
transcendant -- that which goes beyond death -- as the story managed
to tell despite the parts Constantine left on the cutting room floor
of history. God bless the Turks for calling it Istambul. or whoever.

every day is more and more depressing -- i don't really celebrate Yule
as i once did, and maybenever will. then again one day i will be a
happy pagan again. right now i feel shoulde rto the grindstone, i feel
theinfluence of saturn and there is always toomuch W*rk to do. maybe i
will celebrate later...

somewhere right now someone is getting ready to kill and praying to
God for forgiveness ahead of time...all misunderstanding. i've lost so
much..i can't begin to really describe what this stupid religious war
has cost me. all i have to go on is faith -- this isn't Christ who
takes people's choices away and turns them into fools who will kill
for a dollar a and say it had to bedone..that there was no other Way.

that's not Christ who sends people to do that. Nor is it Allah...

leaving me thinking that maybe God is too big to fit in a book!

that being said

yeah, like
throw me in the shallow water!

I'm not aware of too many things.. i know what i know!
ya know what i mean?

(goes back to deep end thanking ye)

hello.

i am Dr. Vali Jones, international liason for the Commonwealth of terran individualists. recently we were invited to join your group -- the U. N. you call yoruselves -- and actually after discussion decided to apply and were to our mild suprioise acepted.

however the invitation was lost in tha mail and we basically blew it off. life went on. we are anarchists. whatever you want to do is fine but basically the opollution stuff is annoying. you guys should get on that.
we are atavistic anarchists with almost no actual output -- our currency is the hug so no one minds the high tax rate or the imploded economy -- and our national animal is the melon tree. so we eat a lot of melons and make fun of you political types. sometimes we fear the end of the world but we feel that humans are basically good at heart so we figure eventually you will stop being stupid and warlike and evoleve. like we have.
we just wanted to let you know we were here.

being atavistic and anarchistic we view your united nations as sort of ludicrous -- al humanity is already united by our status as sentient beings and humans. but we are mystics and sit eating melons.

you should try it! it's a great way to relax.

otherwise...sort of leave us alone.

oh yeah and make those monotheists stop that war. your god wants you to know that they are EMBARASSED.

Um, yeah... BTW, we don't invite people to join, you apply for membership.

As for the war thing, I do not presently know of any particular monotheistic theocratic UN members waging a war...

socialists ren't anarchists. they are liars who say they are anarchists to decieve little punk girls who want to be free. the little punk girls wear cute skirts and look good at rallies so they can go and 'cruit more Bolshevists. somewhere castro is saying 'anarcho - WHAT? HA HA HA HA HA that's the best -- the oldest..."

no capitalists are obviously not anarchists, but socialists are DEFINITELY not anarchists. hitler wasn't an anarchists and neither are the majoirty of racist geeks who today call themslves anarchosocialists or anarcho communists.

as a discordian i thought it might serve to heal world confusion - 9if not us, then who? someone but i am bored)
to clarify that.

and maybe do some other subversive but not noxic shit..

in the name of eris.


right here at nationstates.

yeah.
now.

like, an apple of discord is an apple of discord. the thing abvout some discoordians -- ifask them what eris means they mnight say ANYTHING. but talk to any monotheiss about an riginal apple of discord and they will eventually get to talking about EVE the VEH in the mystic tertragramma, who is what its' REALLY all about.

bast, maat, whatever. i don't understand. i'm thirtyfive! how the
fuck am i supposed tounderstand. i am just glad beyond description to
see it happening.

cause really -- the montheist religionists are way too proud and rigid
-- and this makes me really oiverjoyed in ways that i tend to keep in
check -- but i have a feeling that they are so 'set' in their ways tha
something cosmic is meant to deal with them utterly, prodfoundly and
without question and once and for all, while they arrogantly snidely
smirkingly deny that such is possible. which makes me happy.,

things like NWO Lucferian mind manipulation, clioning and planned
disease outbrakes are in their starndard practis to do and deny doing.
well you can fool some of the people ssome of thetime but they will
never fool peope like these folks who knwo what th FU7CK is going on.

which makes me happy cause well...nazis are liars and they're arrogant
liars. they think there is nothing inthe universe that can stand
against them. they are so wrong!

i really like that the people involved here havd a sense of humor
combined with cosmic perspective. real embarassing to some people but
time will tell, eh?


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CONVERSATIONS with A & A:

The Real Creation Story
A History of the Nebadon Universe and the Sol Sun System


Those speaking are:
Ari: Lord Master Ari
Ava: Lady Master Ava
LMMS: Lady Master Morning Star
Commander: Four Winds Webmaster

Transcribed from a recording recorded on September 14, 2002



Ari: 450 billion years ago, Mother/Father God came together in a
Cosmic, orgasmic union of love and light and peace and joy, and how
this came about is there was a sense of [them] wanting to share the
Cosmic-Union with all of Creation. And this Cosmic, orgasmic
experience some people refer to as the Big Bang [Theory], but it is a
little different as Mother/Father God came together. [In this union]
they created trillions and trillions of sparks. These sparks flowed
alongside Mother/Father God for eons and eons of time. This was
before the recorded history of time, you might say, as there wasn't
anyone recording time. It was all that there IS. And they [the balls
of light] flowed along side Mother/Father God--all these sparks [of
consciousness] they grew in form. Each one of these sparks was a
Twin-Flame [Essence] that was joined with the other half of this twin
flame, and they were complete and whole. In a sense you could call
them balls of light or plasma energy. This is what Mother/Father God
created. And we [all the balls of light] helped to create the
universes—the seven super universes along this line.

Commander: These sparks were souls?

Ari: Yes, the sparks were souls that were complete and whole [unto]
each other that, you know---twin flames in one ball of light. They
flowed along side each other [and Mother/Father] for eons and eons of
time as they grew in magnitude and wisdom, and as this was happening
the universes were being formed--the stars, the suns, the planets, all
of what we call the Seven Super Universes. As this flowed along there
were some souls, or balls of light, who grew in more magnitude than
others. They experienced more wisdom and somehow this was transferred
from one ball of light to each other from Mother/Father God through
thought-transmission, [or thought transfer] which is like messages of
light that travel at the speed of light. Many of these souls grew so
much in magnitude that they sort of became the leaders, you might say,
and out of that there were these three or four that we could call
Mother/Father God's Daughters and Sons. The first- born son and
daughter was YHVH [and LILITH]. That is his [her] name in present
time. His old name was Jehovah, and his wife's name [Twin Flame] was
Lilith, and they had a son named Lucifer, and oh my, Luciafera, the
Light-bringer. This cosmic story began in the anti-matter universe.

Commander: O.K. Can you explain what an anti-matter universe is?

Ari: An anti-matter universe is the opposite of matter universe, where
it's like looking at a photograph and then there's the negative to the
photograph. The anti-matter universe is like the negative in the
sense where everything is the same as it is in the matter universe,
except it's in 12th dimension. It's made out of light—[it is] non-
physical..

Commander: But it exists at the same time.

Ari: All six Super Universes, except the seventh, are non-physical.
The seventh universe is [made out of] matter or the Universe of
Nebadon [as it is called] is a matter Universe.

Commander: Why only one physical universe?

Ari: As we—because, interestingly enough, with the story…I'll go back
to the story---As we grew in magnitude as balls of light, we traveled
along side Jehovah, Lilith and Lucifer, and the Ascended Masters and
many of the Ship Commanders, and all that were out there. Each one of
these balls of light were complete and whole [male/female twin flame
essences], and as we traveled along we experienced gaining more
wisdom. As we grew in wisdom and magnitude we began to take form
where we were balls of light that actually looked like spheres.

Ava: Now I'm [known] as Commandres Ava and he is Commander Ari [on
the Ships] so together as twin flames, [we] are Beloved Ava and Ari.

Ari: Yah.

Ava: Avantari. The point is here as that WE never needed to grow and
expand in our terms of awareness of Godhead. We were equal [unto]
Father/Mother God when we were created. We didn't have to grow or
anything. [We were created in their exact image]. We just chose to
[grow].

Ari: Yes.

Ava: Father/Mother decided that they chose to share their ultimate
perfection and create exactly WHO they were and reproduce more of
themselves [which is us and the ALL THAT IS].

Commander: So they did this out of the other six super
universes---decided to make a seventh one that would be physical?

Ava: Well, no. All things that were created in terms of the Seven
Super universes were created at the same big bang.

Ari: Right.

Ava: We were created [at the same time as] all that…the densification
of matter came from us falling from grace, to be literal. In other
words, as the story progresses there were--in the beginning, there
were different Beings that chose to be [play] different parts of the
co-creative force. They all came out together but the Creator's sons
[and daughters] were the Co-creators with Father/Mother God. The
Lanonandek sons and the Paradisecal sons and daughters chose different
parts of the mission. [note: see the Urantia Book ]

Ari: Yah.

Ava: And as the story progresses, you'll understand. The actual Law
of the Universe is not to cross [breed] different species and
literally the Lanonandek sons [and daughters] and the Paradisecal sons
were [from] different species. They [these groups] had different
units of purpose [different DNA], and so as the story began, the
first-born son and daughter of God/Goddess were Yahweh [and Lilith].
You pronounce it `Yah-Vah', and the daughter was Lilith. Lilith and
Yahweh were [originally] one [connected] ball of light. As time
progressed they [were] also Co-Creator Gods, with Father/Mother.
[These] God[s] wanted to create out of themselves another Co-Creator
God, and [so] that one [that] was their first born was [known as]
Luciafera [and his twin flame female essence named Karula].

Ari: Right.

Ava: This divine Trinity of Light, as time went along and the story
went on, they changed in their form because there was [this] one
thought, and it came from Yahweh. He said, "What if I'm not equal to
my Father? What if I am not enough? What if He [Mother/Father]
created me less than Him [them]?" And it is a debate [to this day]
about whether Yahweh ever [really] feared if this were true or
not--but that he might have even decided to see what would happen if
the others [all the other Balls of Light] were presented with this
[same] thought, and [to] see, as St. Germain would say, "I won't say
God bless you, ever, I will just say on your journey here--- May You
Pass Every Test!" So, literally, this could have been a test from the
very beginning and this whole thing could have been different, but it
is WHAT IT IS. It always was WHAT IS WAS, and the thought was put out
there.

Ari: When this thought occurred, when Yahweh had the thought that he
was `Not-Enough with his father—{Lord] Alcyone', that [choice] created
the thought-form that brought `Matter' into the picture here where we
were brought into a crystallization [of] form—[became physical Beings].

Ava: Of the thought-form--

Ari: Of that thought-form where we began to take on more
density—physical form--we went from 12th dimension [all the way] down
to 5th dimension. This is called THE FALL, or the Fortunate-Fall.

Ava: --And then ultimately [we fell] to [the] third [dimension]. And
even at the beginning of creation, it was never
in-their-wildest-dreams, their imagination that we would choose to
drop to this level!

Ari: That's right.

Ava: They just went, "Holy cow!"

Ava: It's [3rd dimension is] as low as you can go. [Below this
dimension life becomes crystallized mineral or compounded forms also
called non-sentient beingness].

Commander: How many dimensions are there?

Ava: There are twelve dimensions to our reality as Lightbeings and
then there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dimensions [above
us]. A physical sun is at least a 100th dimension[al] [level] and you
can go higher as there are [infinite possibilities]--

Ari: Like Alcyone.

Ava: The great Central Sun [Lord Alcyone] which completely permeates
the entire universe and supports the light of all the other suns.
There is no number.

Ari: I would not know how to describe the dimension Alcyone is in
because he is…

Ava: "ALL THAT IS!"

Ari: Right. And he holds that position with Mother Sekhmet [his Twin
Flame] [as] Mother/Father God.

Ava: Even when we say 450 billion years ago, it's just numbers.

Ari: It's like….

Ava: How can you conceive 450 billion years ago?

Ari: That why I said it began before the time of recorded time---

Ava: It's only a miniscule recent false history, really. The
teachings have come through but [the real truths] they have been
hidden. Even in the most recent of recorded history, and when I said
recent, I mean all recorded history is recent to this story.

Ari: Right.

Ava: So Jehovah [Yahweh] had `that' thought, and as soon as he had
`that' thought and he said that word--as soon as Yahweh had THAT
thought he already [had] began to densify and that's where we [all]
shifted [at the same moment]. He made a choice now to play what we
now call the Dark Side of the Force. He said, "I'm going to gather a
whole team of people that agree with me and I'm going to have a little
war here against Father/Mother God. And [the] starships and all of
these things that are real in time were formed as he descended further
and further into [density and] war and he presented the idea to
others, and others either responded to fear or love. And the Ascended
Masters that we know about---

Ari: And the space commanders--

Ava: --That didn't fall from grace [they] stayed at [the] 12th
dimension. They never went into further densification. So these
Masters held that place [in hope] that we all, eventually, as we chose
our experiences—and freewill choice came in here. And as this dance
began, it was called the `Great Experiment—the Great, Grand Experiment
[in Polarity]. We all had choices. We decided, as higher
consciousness when, as 12th dimension Beings of Light, as the creation
story began, that together we were addressed, "Do you want to do the
grand dance? Do you want to do this experiment? Do you think you can
literally descend into matter and even come as far as 3rd dimension
and come [back] into light and remember WHO YOU ARE?" We all said,
"Piece of cake! It's a piece of cake!" In other words, the agreement
was that once we hit below 5th level, that once we started Earth
cycles into third dimensions, we would forget everything that we ever
knew about ourselves before that [the veil would be drawn across our
memory]. We would be willing to do this experiment to come into light
in the third dimension, and see as we had forgotten from birth, if we
would REMEMBER [THE TRUTH OF WHO WE REALLY ARE] as we would grow up.

Commander: But there are billions of planets out there. This is not
the only one.

Ava: No, no, no, the human form does not exist just on this planet.
It exists in many star systems and there are untold numbers of human
forms, third dimensional beings on other stars and planets.

Ari: Right.

Ava: There are also other beings that are all kinds of shapes and
sizes. There are

Walrus People, Ladybug People, Lion People, Reptilian People, and Bird
People. I mean it is infinite! There are Praying Mantis People on
[the planet] Arcturas. They are not all in third dimension. They are
in 5th dimension and higher, mostly.

Ari: In the story where we are we began [with the creation of the
Adam Kadmon, the physical humanoid form which was originally created]
in the Aurora Sun System which is in the anti-matter universe, and in
that anti-matter universe there were 23 different sun systems. There
were 23 different suns that had 12-14 planets around them.

Ava: Each of them—[that is 23 solar systems with 12-14 planets each]--

Ari: --yes each of them. Nibiru was the 23rd sun [system] and
Aurora was the 1st sun. As this story progressed, Yahweh in his
infinite wisdom and infinite insanity, in the sense of trying to
decide that he was equal or better than his father Alcyone, began to
destroy these 23 sun systems of Aurora! [He came in on his Starship
and fired Photon torpedoes just like in the movie Star Wars]

Ava: By this time he had gathered many. He gathered his son, and the
Luciafera was then [known as] Lucifer. He threw his wife [Karula]
out. [See the book EL-AN-RA by Solara] So Lilith [his Mother] then
became [known as] the `Whore of Babylon'.

Ari: Right--

Ava: She [Lilith] had her own armies and she was a fierce Warrior
Goddess as well [as someone] with a mission, and so we have the
[first] war between the sexes. As a matter of fact, the first
`nepotism' [incest] began because Lillith beckoned her [own] first
[born] son, Lucifer, and said, "Let's have a relationship," and
literally Lucifer and Lillith became coupled with [each other]--her
[son became her] own husband. They [this coupling] created all kinds
of demons. That's where we got [the] Baelzebub[s] and [the] Satan[s]
and these are all [the] sons [and daughters] of the combination [the
coupling] of Lucifer and Lilith together.

Ari: Bear in mind….

Commander: Satan is an Entity [a real being] and not [just] a
collective consciousness of evil.

Ava: He was an actual entity, and so was Baelzebub, and they were
birthed [by this union]. They were sons of Lucifer and Lilith's
relationship.

Commander: How do you spell that?

Ava: Bielzebub?

Commander: Yeah.

Ava: B-i-e-l-z-a-b-u-b [should be spelled BAEL-ZE-BUB]

Commander: O.K.

Ava: And [not only] Satan you know--and there are many other demons.
This goes down to demigods [the lessor Gods], [as written in] the
Upanishads and the Geeta, and the….

Commander: You said they created these or are these [beings] the
actual entities or people they collected, or agreed or chose to go on
their side?

Ava: I mean it started with the first choice [the thought-form of
`Not Enough'] of how the J-man, and instead of how, instead of Yahweh,
we've [now] got `JEHOVAH' [a GOD title]. The first choice was to
throw out his wife [Lilith]. He said, "I do not need the feminine to
fight this war!" and he made himself the superior race—I mean the
Superior Gender at that time. You understand the Superior Gender? If
you were to put it that way: Mother [Sekhmet] can create out of
herself. She does not need Father God to create Life, [SHE, the
SHEKINA SPIRIT can bring LIFE out of herself without THE FATHER] but
they made a choice to have a UNION for the sake of breathing LOVE into
[all] life.

Ari: That's right.

Ava: To share LOVE INTO LIFE.

Ari: What I was going to say is when Jehovah or Yahweh had that first
thought of "less than" or "I-am-not-equal-with-my
Father-Alcyone"--what that created out of all [the] Seven Super
Universes was that it brought [The Univserse of Nebadon], physical
matter into reality. We dropped in density [called the GREAT FALL].
What happened was it began the game called POLARITY where there was
something called positive and negative. Before Jehovah or Yahweh had
that thought we did not have polarity!

Ava: No, we only had the Laws of [the] One.

Ari: And once he had that thought we [all instantly] fell into
density and matter. Then polarity began, and he, in his infinite
wisdom and insanity, created the matter universe where the UNIVERSE OF
NEBADON came in. In the sense of all of this, it was just a holodeck
program in the sense that this was just a game.

Ava: --[which was] called the Grand Experiment.

Ari: Right. [The question] is can you flow through the polarity game
and come out the other side and retain your Divinity and Diversity and
still be a 12th dimensional Being with Love and follow only the Laws
of One, and not get caught in the laws of Free-Will-Choice [called KARMA]?

Ava: Actually, we've been fighting this final battle of Armageddon,
if you will. ARMAGEDDON has been going on [all] during my life, you
know, and if you want to talk about the financial thing-- it has been
going on for 25 years— [for at least] the last 25 years! It's not
about MONEY—it is really about coming back to the Laws of the One.
[The re- establishment of the DIVINE PLAN on Earth-Shan once again
which officially ends what has been called Luciferian Rebellion].

Ari: Right.

Ava: So that [the re-establishment of Universal Law] ends free-will
choice! And everyone goes, "Huh? We end freewill choice?" It doesn't
mean that we end anything in a negative sense, it's that up until now
we've had the freewill choice to choose light [goodness LOVE and
respect for all Life] or dark [suffering and fear]. As we come to the
end of this suffering--because many have chosen out-of-fear to go with
the dark side of the Force, it creates suffering. Infinite Samsara,
is the way they put it in the Hindu teachings. And the Hindu
teachings were even a part of this where they say that you must DIE
and come again, and be-born again into…this [has been] misquoted what
they [the teachings really] said [was]—`unless you are born again of
water and the Holy Spirit'-- What they were saying that unless you are
born again back into the LAWS OF THE ONE and understand that that is
where Joy and Light and Peace and Happiness exist…that you know God
never created anybody LESS than Him [Her] self. That was misqualified
by more densified thinking. Do you understand? Thus, we created
choices of that which is AGAINST LIFE or [so called] DARKNESS, and as
a result, created such things as DEATH. Death was not [really] in the
[original DNA] program—[LIFE IS ETERNAL]. When our lifeforms were
created even in the third dimension they were created to live as full,
healthy adults--18 to 30 [years], if you want to give it a figure,
without any sickness and no death for [at least] 3,000 years [or more
in physical form].

Ari: When Mother Sekhmet lived on Planet Earth in a physical body in
Egypt, she lived for 3,000 years in a physical body!

Ava: But she wasn't exactly like us. She was in a lion body. They
call them [this form a] Paschat—P-a-s-c-h–a-t. She has a lion head,
she has a tail, she has paws, but she stood upright, and she had
`Tits'! We have a picture we're going to send you—holy cow!
(laughter) [Note: see the website www.allthingssekhmet.com for greater
understanding].

Ari: Yeah! O, my God, we have two pictures I'm going to send you. We
had them scanned into—I went to a print shop. They are going to be
ready on Monday and then I will e-mail them to you so you can put them
on the website so people can actually see what--as Dove puts it, "The
"Most Fierce-some Commander of the Forces" looks like!

Ava: That one picture you have is--her eyes are really blood red--but
Mother talks about wearing her red dress. What they are trying to get
the point across is that when it's time, SHE comes at the beginning
and the end of a Yuga, which is a 26,826/year cycle, and that's where
we are right now. We are at the end of what is known as the Kali
Yuga, and that is why she is so present right now. This is the
beginning of the Saatvic Yuga which is four times longer that other
Yugas, which means we are going into 100,000 years of PEACE which they
call in the SaatvicYuga, ONE day in the life of Brahma which is—[one
turning of the Galactic Wheel—the Milky Way Galaxy—the Universe of
Nebadon].

Ari: I got to go use the other phone.

Ava: This one phone is not working so good. It has to be re-charged.
What are we going to do with this? We are recording and we are going
all over the board, and…what are you going to do with this?

Commander: What I was hoping to do is that you would have some sort
of outline and just chronologically go through it. Whatever you
wanted to….we are going off onto tangents here, but that is O.K.

Ari: Is that alright?

Commander: Yes, that is O.K.

Ava: So actually, when it gets on fourwinds10 it's just going to be
your writing, is that what you are saying?

Commander: Do you want that on there or do you want the actual
recording on there?

Ava: We are kind of going all over the board, here is what I am saying.

Ari: I would think that it would be really cool for the people to
hear the story.

Um, yeah... BTW, we don't invite people to join, you apply for membership.

As for the war thing, I do not presently know of any particular monotheistic theocratic UN members waging a war...
oh. well confusion happening.

the monotheists are the zislamic States and the United States of America and their allies. you're the United nations -- make them stop? or youre a bunch of idiots with no power kidding yourselves...and so why would i play? there are stars to contemplate and melons to eat.

hail eris,

terran Individualists

also -- re: your new world order? turn that off too.

leaves your cramped forum)

First of all it is imposable to ban any member based on the type of government they have. The Islamic theocracies have as much of a right as anyone.

Second of all United States of America isn’t a nation not found.

Third of all you are very difficult to understand.

Lady Des,
Sigless.

...

Looks like someone smoked a big 'ole bowl, read Illuminatus! and then decided to start typing...

Looks like someone smoked a big 'ole bowl, read Illuminatus! and then decided to start typing...
Fnord.

More looks like they ate too much melons :p