NationStates Jolt Archive


Right to Keep and Bear Arms

Mabulia
11-12-2004, 18:49
Description: All people at or over the age of eighteen(18), will have the right to keep and bear firearms and ammunition.


i am asking all freedom loving countries to please support this proposal.
New Tyrollia
11-12-2004, 19:12
No.
New Tyrollia
11-12-2004, 19:14
(To elaborate, there is no reason for the citizenry of New Tyrollia to own firearms, our police force keeps us perfectly safe and hunting on state land is illegal. The passing of this resolution would only open the gates for increased violence within our nation.)
Information Traders
11-12-2004, 19:19
while I am for it, you did not give any good reason why the 38,000 member UN should support it.
Cozzamundeee
11-12-2004, 19:31
Freedom? The only ever use of a hand gun would be an other-regarding harm, so I fail to see how this promotes 'freedom'.
Caesar893
11-12-2004, 20:41
Well, I have a large police force and have even resorted to privacy rights being taken away and my crime rate is STILL astronomically high. Perhaps A little old-fashioned violence visited upon the criminal element by a well-armed mob... er, (ahem) militia will curb the problem. I'm for it. :sniper:
Zarulius
11-12-2004, 20:55
I have a very high crime rate in my nation and i also beleive that maybe if criminals knew people had guns crime wouldn't be so high. the Holy Empire of Zarulius supports this.
New Tyrollia
11-12-2004, 21:00
I have a very high crime rate in my nation and i also beleive that maybe if criminals knew people had guns crime wouldn't be so high. the Holy Empire of Zarulius supports this.

You, of course, realize that this will also give the criminal element acess to firearms . . .
:rolleyes:
The Black New World
11-12-2004, 21:06
I have a very high crime rate in my nation and i also beleive that maybe if criminals knew people had guns crime wouldn't be so high. the Holy Empire of Zarulius supports this.
My nation has as much crime as it has guns; none. That works for us we don't want to change it.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World,
Delegate to The Order of The Valiant States
Caesar893
11-12-2004, 21:54
The criminal element already has access to firearms in my nation, and the general populace doesn't. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. There is no reason why people should turn to crime when an economy is thriving and the citizenry is well-educated except for pure greed. These animals should be dragged out in the street, hung from the closest tree, stabbed, disemboweled, shot by a firing squad, set on fire and have the corpse kicked around on a football field for awhile. :mad:
Information Traders
11-12-2004, 22:21
and then you create a script around it, call it Gangs of New York, and prepare for the Oscars to roll in. I like it!
New Tyrollia
11-12-2004, 22:50
The criminal element already has access to firearms in my nation, and the general populace doesn't. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

So your solution is . . . give out more guns. I see. :rolleyes: Are you sure you wouldn't rather just concetrate on taking the guns away from the criminals?

There is no reason why people should turn to crime when an economy is thriving and the citizenry is well-educated except for pure greed. These animals should be dragged out in the street, hung from the closest tree, stabbed, disemboweled, shot by a firing squad, set on fire and have the corpse kicked around on a football field for awhile. :mad:

Actually, they might turn to it out of sadism as opposed to greed. This seems like it might be a bit of a problem in your nation ...
Fass
12-12-2004, 00:17
Description: All people at or over the age of eighteen(18), will have the right to keep and bear firearms and ammunition.


i am asking all freedom loving countries to please support this proposal.

This is not suitable for an advanced society such as that of our beloved Fass. Sure, other, primitive societies may have to stoop to such measures, and they are free to do so - we, however, do not have any need for it, nor do we wish such barbarity on ourselves.
TilEnca
12-12-2004, 02:53
Description: All people at or over the age of eighteen(18), will have the right to keep and bear firearms and ammunition.


i am asking all freedom loving countries to please support this proposal.

Why 18? Why not adults? Children become adults when they turn 14 in TilEnca, so why can't they have guns then?

(Also - no. We have gun control for a reason)
Snoogit
12-12-2004, 15:37
The United Socialist States of Snoogit is also a gun free nation, and our crime is non existant.

If you are looking for a way to combat crime, perhaps you need to pay attention to your own people.
Numar
12-12-2004, 16:45
I am against it, but believe only members of the army may have the right to Bare Arms.
Frisbeeteria
12-12-2004, 16:47
only members of the army may have the right to Bare Arms.
Damn straight! Long sleeves for everyone else!
The Black New World
12-12-2004, 16:57
Damn straight! Long sleeves for everyone else!
But what if they get their arms scraped on barbed wire?

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Isisamos
12-12-2004, 19:47
...and no crime. How do we do it? By taking care of each other :fluffle: , not by turning our citizens against one another. :mp5: :sniper:

If you want guns in your nation, go nuts. I'll not have any part of it.
Flibbleites
13-12-2004, 08:25
But what if they get their arms scraped on barbed wire?

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Nobody said that they couldn't wear long sleeves if they wanted to.
Florida Oranges
13-12-2004, 22:15
Description: All people at or over the age of eighteen(18), will have the right to keep and bear firearms and ammunition.


i am asking all freedom loving countries to please support this proposal.

The president of the Armed Republic of Florida Oranges is a gun nut. That's no secret. In fact, the majority of the Orange population are gun collectors or deer hunters too, and share many of their president's sentiments about cold, steel weapons. But the Orange administration simply cannot support this resolution, as much as we love weapons. When you say all people at or over the age of eighteen have the right to bear firearms and ammunition, essentially you'd even put weapons in the hands of convicted felons, bank-robbers, and rapists! In order for a resolution like this to even be considered, certain restrictions must be put into play. We ask you to rethink this resolution before trying to get it approved once more.