NationStates Jolt Archive

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Monte di Procida

Description: Life is the first and untouchable human right.

No matter how horrible the crime committed is: nobody in the world can decide if another person can live or not.

According to this resolution all the States must ban the Death Penalty in their countries, changing the penalty for very horrible crimes into very hard prison reclusion or other penalties they prefer.

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N.B.: This is just a reminder for those who followed the discussion in the proposal presentation and want to vote for its approval.

Please DON'T use this thread for discussions about the topic, but please refer to the previous thread.

Thank You.

TheGuardian - Monte di Procida

Um, how about "Not no, but Hell no with demons on top!!!"?

We in Nebbland have no death penalty, nor have we since our inception. I personally would vote for this resolution, and will endorse it. I personally hope that it will be passed.

The death penalty is again in my opinion a barbaric and out dated vengence that has nothing to do with justice, let's remove where we can one step at a time.

Nebbyland will also be starting a fund to help those appealing to commute sentences of death.

With respect

Jodie
Today's Spokesman for Nebbyland

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Monte di Procida

Not really an improvement. Just going sideways.

Description: Life is the first and untouchable human right.

Nope. Wrong. The only right that has proven untouchable is death. Everyone dies. Not everyone lives.

No matter how horrible the crime committed is: nobody in the world can decide if another person can live or not.

If I don't, my citizens will. And they won't be humane.

According to this resolution all the States must ban the Death Penalty in their countries, changing the penalty for very horrible crimes into very hard prison reclusion or other penalties they prefer.

I don't have prisons, just worker colonies on my orbital platforms. All this will do is give them the opportunity to commit more crimes. I can't support it.

N.B.: This is just a reminder for those who followed the discussion in the proposal presentation and want to vote for its approval.

Please DON'T use this thread for discussions about the topic, but please refer to the previous thread.

Why? You don't want people seeing others disagree with you?

The death penalty is again in my opinion a barbaric and out dated vengence that has nothing to do with justice, let's remove where we can one step at a time.

This is not "one step at a time." This is "a giant leap into the abyss and hoping you don't fall to your death."

Is it barbaric? Depends on your cultural view. The culture of my people is one related to the military. I have ways of killing people that are more humane than any practiced on Earth. But, I do not claim my people to be civilized (nor do I accept human claims of being such, as those who claim civilization the hardest are the farthest from it).

Nebbyland will also be starting a fund to help those appealing to commute sentences of death.

Don't expect anyone attempting to deliver such funds to live long enough to deliver them in my nation. The populous has a history of vigillante justice and there's not much I can do to stop them from killing your messengers. Nor can I charge them for it, as it's impossible to get testimonies on who fired which shot and the police departments have a bad habit of losing evidence in those cases.

This proposal is illegal as written:

According to this resolution all the States must ban the Death Penalty in their countries, changing the penalty for very horrible crimes into very hard prison reclusion or other penalties they prefer.

UN Resolutions can only apply to UN Member Nations.
IF the UN is going to dictates prison reclusion for crimes then it had better set up its own prison system and court.

No because this is a domestic not an international issue.

I would still have to oppose this proposal, because while I oppose the death penalty, I do not think I have the right to tell other nations that they should ban it too.

No because this is a domestic not an international issue.

Hmm...

Clarification, so we can dictate domestic law to all states, but international law does not apply to all states?

Am I reading to deep into a technicality?