NationStates Jolt Archive


The lack UN Responsibilities to Single Nation Regions....

Male Sexual Love
01-12-2004, 10:17
Has caused me to make some decisions that will be unpopular at best and viewed as illegal in some cases. Not that I care. This is a notification, not a request for approval. Ergo....

The region of WESTERN ATLANTIAN EMPIRE does NOT recognize Christian Ethics as being the Regional Guidelines for anything particularly important.

Due to the fact that single nation regions do not have representatives in the UN, this Region does not recognize any UN Law that has been passed that does not allow for non-Christian Religious Laws or for resolutions that run counter to our own beliefs. There is only one nation in this region at the moment and as such there is no way for me to get any endorsements and therefore be recognized by the UN as a delegate for my region. If I can not have representation, do not expect me to abide by your decisions since it's not going to happen unless I damned well feel like it.

Because I have no recognition in the UN, I do not recognize the UN as a body which has ANY final authority over myself, my nation or my region.

For instance, Gay marriages are quite legal here and will remain so. No doubt there will be other issues that will be made legal here that will not be legal elsewhere within the UN.

Isn't that just too damned bad?

Live with it.
HadleysHope
01-12-2004, 10:46
Uh, as long as you're a UN member, you *will* follow the laws it passes. Period. If you don't like it, you can leave.
Tuesday Heights
01-12-2004, 10:52
Uh, as long as you're a UN member, you *will* follow the laws it passes. Period.

Not technically correct. No matter what all UN resolutions that pass will affect your technical stats, but if a nation claims, "I don't adhere to UN resolution X," well, there's nothing anybody can do to enforce it in a role-play sort of way.
Male Sexual Love
01-12-2004, 13:26
Not technically correct. No matter what all UN resolutions that pass will affect your technical stats, but if a nation claims, "I don't adhere to UN resolution X," well, there's nothing anybody can do to enforce it in a role-play sort of way.

Can represent themselves as their OWN delegate, there is no reason for anyone to expect that nations which do NOT have a representative in the UN to speak for them, should be bound by decisions made by others.

I certainly do not intend to do so. Nation States made a fairly obvious oversight, here. This is my reaction. If someone doesn't like it then they need to have THIER delegates bring it up and if Nation States doesn't like it, too bad, until they correct the oversight. It may be a game, but it's a political one. And I'm an American. No lesgislation without representation.
Male Sexual Love
01-12-2004, 13:29
Uh, as long as you're a UN member, you *will* follow the laws it passes. Period. If you don't like it, you can leave.


I'd really LOVE to watch you try to force THIS issue. There's not a whole hell of alot you can do about it, particularly since I've got a valid point...and you damned well know it!
Komokom
01-12-2004, 14:17
After laughing hysterically for a few minutes, The Rep of Komokom stood to wipe his eyes and address the representative of " Male Sexual Love " ... while he is still here ...Has caused me to make some decisions that will be unpopular at best and viewed as illegal in some cases. Not that I care. This is a notification, not a request for approval. Ergo....See, as soon as I read this I think " okay ... ( cringe ) " because when people come in here with their " RAWR ! " on it means they will most likely be shot down or shut down ...The region of WESTERN ATLANTIAN EMPIRE does NOT recognize Christian Ethics as being the Regional Guidelines for anything particularly important.So ? I don't like christianity much myself. I have no problem with the U.N. and last I checked, " god " does not run this N.S.U.N. We have religious tolerance, which less then what we have on the books for protection of sexualities, let me tell you, ;) Due to the fact that single nation regions do not have representatives in the UN this Region does not recognize any UN Law that has been passed that does not allow for non-Christian Religious Laws or for resolutions that run counter to our own beliefs.Your reasoning is gravely flawed. A single nation region while due to game mechanics cannot have a N.S.U.N Delegate, it can still have that single nation act as a U.N. member, of its own free will of course. There-fore that nation is subject to the law. Because only nations are actually subject to U.N. law not regions, and those nations who are subject actually have to be member nations to be subject.There is only one nation in this region at the moment and as such there is no way for me to get any endorsements and therefore be recognized by the UN as a delegate for my region.Easy fix. Join the U.N. and go to your region. Use game-play forum or use messages in the feeder regions Civil HQ board to " recruit " people into your region. Its not our / The N.S.U.N fault there are no other people in your region yet.

And before you try to " recruit " find the rules and make sure you know them. I'm sure I'd hate to see you " done " for region spam ...If I can not have representation, do not expect me to abide by your decisions since it's not going to happen unless I damned well feel like it.Stiff, cause once again your wrong.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, just to get it through, see-ing your attitude in this thread already. Bloody hell ...

If you are a U.N. member you are represented because you are part of the U.N. and you can vote at the general / all-member votes. If you want to propose a, well, proposal or repeal, its up to you to organise endorsements.

Its almost like the games way of sAying " get off your lazy ass and make friends, we are not your automated dating service " I guess ...Because I have no recognition in the UN, I do not recognize the UN as a body which has ANY final authority over myself, my nation or my region.Good, don't bloody well join until you fully know what your doing or talking about. For instance, Gay marriages are quite legal here and will remain so. No doubt there will be other issues that will be made legal here that will not be legal elsewhere within the UN.You officially seem to have no idea what your talking about. The U.N. has legalised and protected Gay Marriages. In fact there is another bit of more recent law that further ensures they are legalised in all member states and a protected right. There are several resolutions giving rights to homosexuals in fact. I actualy wrote The Sexes Rights Law, you know. And it can most certainly include homo-hetero-I-don't-know what else, thanks to my semi-rider clause at the ass of it ...Isn't that just too damned bad?Oh and before I forget, if you are a member of the U.N. you must abide by U.N. resolutions. Because while there are game mechanics effects which all member nations are forced by programming to abide by, you are expected to follow them. Its the price of member-ship and the principle here to make our law effective.Live with it.Same back at you. And since you seem to need the education, try reading my records thread here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357572)before you respond ...

Just in case you missed anything else ...

EDIT : And before I forget, all that " MY REGION, RAWR ! " crap is frowned upon much here. Keep it else-where, in the right place thanks.
Terran Diplomats
01-12-2004, 17:12
Cry? Usually I'd be compelled to write something more in depth on your complaint, but you're clearly insane so I dont think I'll bother.