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For those who wondered what the RFCSN (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=RFCSN) was going to do next, I've finally proposed a medical marijuana initiative:

Medical Marijuana Initiative
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Recreational Drug Use (Human Rights)
Decision: Legalize (Strength: Mild)
Proposed by: Sandpit

Description: WHEREAS marijuana (cannabis) have been proven to be effective in the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine and many other illnesses,

AND WHEREAS many users of medical marijuana have been harshly prosecuted,

THEREFORE the Republic of Sandpit, on behalf of the Regional Federation of Cannabis Supporting Nations (RFCSN), propose as follows:

1) That any person can, with recommendation from a physician, pocess up to ten (10) grams of cannabis and up to two (2) cannabis plants, as well as all related paraphernalia.

1b) If said recommendation was made by a physician who had been previously found guilty of a marijuana-related charge, or previously found guilty of a professional misconduct, said recommendation shall be forwarded to a government agency for further review.

2) That no physician be intimidated into recommending against medical marijuana, and that no physician be prosecuted for recommending medical marijuana.

3) That all governments promote the benefits of medical marijuana, and that all governments protect the right to the use of marijuana for medical purposes, including refraining from persecuting users of medical marijuana, and ensuring that there is a safe and affordable supply of marijuana for medicinal use.

What, again?

Ok, good luck with this one.

What, again?

Ok, good luck with this one.

Are you sure?

First of all, this is a MEDICAL marijuana proposal, not a "legalize marijuana for all purposes" proposal.

Secondly, by including section 1b), I've already made it a bit more conservative, because basically I'm saying "I don't trust the doctors 100%".

Thirdly, initiatives like this have been passed in several US states, including Montana a few weeks ago on Nov. 2.

This isn't the US. It's the UN. Many of us don't live in the US.

And there is a flurry of "Medical Marajuana" proposals every so often. You're just on the start of the wave.

I don't live in the US either, but what I was trying to say with my third point was that even in a state as conservative as Montana, a medical marijuana initiative was passed.

Also, this proposal was resubmitted after it was deleted for category violations. The mods believed that this proposal should have been under "Recreational Drug use: Legalize" instead of "Human Rights: Mild", but I have already protested this decision here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7563545).

I also took this opportunity to change the amount of cannabis allowed from 30 grams to 10 grams, and the number of plants allowed from 3 to 2, in order to attract the support of the more conservative nations.

Hey sandpit

I am behind you on this 110%
for that matter, being a liberal, I belive it is time to end the prohibition on marijuna entirely, it should be completly legal, it is safer then cigarettes(being a smoker of both i know) I am also a safer person after smoking a big fatty then i am after drinking a good pint of wiskey yet drinking is legal and smoking herb is ilegal, doesnt make a lot of sense to me, even worse, I live in the USA the place where everyone is suppose to be FREE, yet big daddy says no to this no to that no to what ever so were the hell is my freedom to do what i want as long as i am not hurting anyone, why is it the conservatives and the bible thumpers are always out to oppress those that wish to exercise there right to be free.
If everyone made love :fluffle: instead of war it would be a much :D happier world.

Master Tom
Orions Belt :headbang:

Minor point with regard to the description line, a substance cannot help AIDS sufferers in a direct way. Rather AIDS related diseases would be the appropriate description and then I feel, it should say “some AIDS related diseases” because I doubt it would help all.

Respectfully
Lydia Cornwall, UN Ambassador
Office of UN Relations, Dept for Foreign Affairs
HM Government of Telidia

Hey sandpit

I am behind you on this 110%
for that matter, being a liberal, I belive it is time to end the prohibition on marijuna entirely, it should be completly legal, it is safer then cigarettes(being a smoker of both i know) I am also a safer person after smoking a big fatty then i am after drinking a good pint of wiskey yet drinking is legal and smoking herb is ilegal, doesnt make a lot of sense to me, even worse, I live in the USA the place where everyone is suppose to be FREE, yet big daddy says no to this no to that no to what ever so were the hell is my freedom to do what i want as long as i am not hurting anyone, why is it the conservatives and the bible thumpers are always out to oppress those that wish to exercise there right to be free.
If everyone made love :fluffle: instead of war it would be a much :D happier world.

Master Tom
Orions Belt :headbang:

1. It is physically impossible to give more than 100% of your effort...just wanted to bring it up. :D

2. Marijuana is not safe, it is less damaging to your self than cigarettes are, but it still does have negative effects, especially while high. It impairs your judgement just like alcohol does and contrary to what your argument implied, legalizing marjuana will not stop people from drinking alcohol and smoking.

3. I think killing terrorists is a much better way to stop them from killing people than making out with them...

4. (previous post) I do not know the details of treating illnesses with marijuana...I don't think it would be effective against AIDS, seeing as you will die...cancer too...and what about anorexia? Is this a personal belief? I know marijuana makes you hungry, but can it be directly rlated in this way?

Given that in _Myopia_, all drugs are legal, and you don't need a doctor's permission or anything like that, this would create serious inconsistencies in our laws, because while you would still be able to go out and freely buy a load of cocaine, cannabis would be restricted by your resolution to small amounts and only with a doctor's approval.

You need to consider that not all member nations have draconian drugs laws to start with.

My nation has no laws against what many consider to be "recreational drugs". I am not interested in supporting a law that would give my citizens less freedom than they already have.

I am appalled at what some nations consider the "right thing".

People sometimes are just idiots and using mind enhancing substances just makes them bigger ones.

Anyone who cannot control their car - impaired or not - deserves severe punishment. Inflicting damage or pain on other person without permission from that person, is simply one of the worst crimes a person can commit. I have the right to not be subjected to your idiocy.

Slender Goddess

My nation has no laws against what many consider to be "recreational drugs". I am not interested in supporting a law that would give my citizens less freedom than they already have.

I am appalled at what some nations consider the "right thing".

People sometimes are just idiots and using mind enhancing substances just makes them bigger ones.

Anyone who cannot control their car - impaired or not - deserves severe punishment. Inflicting damage or pain on other person without permission from that person, is simply one of the worst crimes a person can commit. I have the right to not be subjected to your idiocy.

Slender Goddess

To whom are you referring?

Description: WHEREAS marijuana (cannabis) have been proven to be effective in the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine and many other illnesses,

I would eliminate this part of the proposal all together, because you cannot verify that some of these diseases - like AIDS and Cancer - exist in such a way that would benefit from medical Marijuana being legalized.

Given that in _Myopia_, all drugs are legal, and you don't need a doctor's permission or anything like that, this would create serious inconsistencies in our laws, because while you would still be able to go out and freely buy a load of cocaine, cannabis would be restricted by your resolution to small amounts and only with a doctor's approval.

You need to consider that not all member nations have draconian drugs laws to start with.

I know, I'm the founder of the Regional Federation of Cannabis Supporting Nations (RFCSN).

Also, this proposal, if enacted, will only affect countries where cannabis is totally illegal. Countries in which cannabis is legal for all uses will not be affected , as medical marijuana will already be legal there.

Five bucks it never hits quorum. Any takers?

Sure thing...if I get the five bucks that is ;)

I don't understand all of these pointless resolutions...not only are they repetetive and redundant, but most of them are issues that should be resolved in individual countries, not by a committee in the UN.

Five bucks it never hits quorum. Any takers?

If it never hits quorum, I blame the category.
As I said, I've already protested the decision.

Also, this proposal, if enacted, will only affect countries where cannabis is totally illegal. Countries in which cannabis is legal for all uses will not be affected , as medical marijuana will already be legal there.

Then you need explicitly to say in the text that the regulations you set out are a minimum, and member nations are free to have more liberal legislation.

The proposal has not reached quorum. When I last checked, it had 27 endorsements.

I'm planning to resubmit this proposal shortly because I'm convinced that if a medical marijuana initiative can pass in RL in a place as conservative as Montana, then it pass here in NS as well.

Any comments/suggestions are more than welcome.