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I would like to ask all UN Delegates to please support my UN proposal "Save the Oceans Act." It is currently on page 27.


Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Winder

Description: The world's oceans are a very important resource for all life on Earth. Not only do the Earth's oceans provide most of the world's oxygen, but the oceans also provide a valuable food supply.

The dumping of chemicals into rivers, however, is seriously harming the oceans. Excess chemicals from factories across the globe that are dumped into rivers and streams inevitably reach the ocean. Once there, these chemicals kill off algae (a major producer of oxygen), fish, and other food sources. Also, the build up of chemicals in the oceans such as mercury are now being transferred to humans. This can cause serious birth defects if a pregnant woman consumes fish containing chemicals such as mercury, along with serious effects to the health of the consumer.

This resolution would ban the dumping of excess chemicals by factories into streams and rivers, preventing them from arriving into the ocean. Punishment for violation of this resolution shall be left up to individual nations.

I would like to ask all UN Delegates to please support my UN proposal "Save the Oceans Act." It is currently on page 27.


Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Winder

Description: The world's oceans are a very important resource for all life on Earth. Not only do the Earth's oceans provide most of the world's oxygen, but the oceans also provide a valuable food supply.

The dumping of chemicals into rivers, however, is seriously harming the oceans. Excess chemicals from factories across the globe that are dumped into rivers and streams inevitably reach the ocean. Once there, these chemicals kill off algae (a major producer of oxygen), fish, and other food sources. Also, the build up of chemicals in the oceans such as mercury are now being transferred to humans. This can cause serious birth defects if a pregnant woman consumes fish containing chemicals such as mercury, along with serious effects to the health of the consumer.

This resolution would ban the dumping of excess chemicals by factories into streams and rivers, preventing them from arriving into the ocean. Punishment for violation of this resolution shall be left up to individual nations.

Hmmm...addresses an important issue...respects national sovereignty...I'm inclined to approve of this proposal.

I'm also inclined to agree with it.

If I had the power to support it I would. So I will (hopefully) wait for the time it comes to the floor.

This is one of those "it's a keen idea" topics that isn't really good law.
This resolution would ban the dumping of excess chemicals by factories into streams and rivers, preventing them from arriving into the ocean.
Factories don't dump chemicals. People dump chemicals. Trucks dump chemicals. Trucks dump barrels that contain chemcials but aren't actually raw chemicals so they can be dumped. Factories hire trucking firms to put chemicals in barrels and cart them to the ocean. Etcetera, etcetera.

It's a good idea. It needs refinement. What about fertilizer runoff from agriculture? I'm sure there are lots of nasty stream polluters that aren't factories that ought to be addressed. You need to post for input on this and resubmit it as a lot more complete proposal than the one you posted. There are UN regulars who make a living monitoring water quality - ask them. (are ya listening, Mikitivity?).

Run it through the improvement process for a week or two before you repost it, and you'll have a solid proposal with lots of support. As it stands now, it's totally toothless.

This is one of those "it's a keen idea" topics that isn't really good law.

As it stands now, it's totally toothless.

...but...but...that's how I like proposals. :(

I'm sorry but this proposal is very vague on a few levels

1. Define chemicals...water is a chemical...a very dangerous one at that...kills thousands a year and cause cause severe muscle deterioration in solid form, skin damage in gas form, and suffocation through inhalation in liquid form. We certainly wouldn't want THAT in our water, would we?

2. What would the penalties for polluting the ocean include? Your proposal would stop ocean pollution just as much as the Versailles treaty stopped WWII from happening.

You have to be specific on every possible base, for loopholes are all over the place.

Actually we already have 2 resolutions about water based dumping. And one of them already banned dumping ANY waste into water. so could we maybe not pass another one? The ones we have are bad enough.

Hey come on man lay off

People need to feel self important by propogating their over-used liberal ideas

The only reason I'm supporting it is the UN has demonstrated an inability to read passed resolutions. After this one, I'm back to looking for ones that do something new.

dont expect this proposal to make it to voting, if it does, dont expect any support from our nation

(pre-empts Anti Pharisaism)

Would you mind defining "excess"? Are you talking about excess all at once, or excess over time, or excess as in "too much in the tanks, dump some"?

And what happens if your ability to measure changes, or new research appears, and what was already dumped is suddenly excees?

Ok, so my factories can't dump. What about if my factories transfer the excess to trucks in another company, specifically created to dump which does not contain a factory?

:)Yeah, and when speeking in terms of excess, are you considering the load handling of the stream...

Will it be considered in terms of cumulative dumping with respect to load of chemicals at certain regions of the rivers... or overall with out respect to natural filtration...

Like that mercury is highlighted, do not like that no mention of new technology enabling such monitoring played a role in our ability to determine mercury levels, and we are without knowledge of previous mercury levels in fish.

PETA says don't eat fish, fish hooks are painful, having your body bitten in half by other water inhabitants is not.;)

Your proposal, in theory, is good. However, it lacks the specific wording to make it effective at preventing pollutants from continuing to invade all phases of our existence.

Perhaps, you could start a discussion with some of the more concerned nations on how to tighten it up and get it to formal proposal state.

Slender Goddess

Yeah, I did notice that my use of "excess" may be interpreted a few ways. If I do revise it, I will edit that out.

Thanks everybody for any critizism that I can use to help revise the resolution.

I suggest you TG Anti Pharisaism and talk with him about wording. He's the most... *ahem* "minute detail oriented" person I know.

And I mean that in the most complimentary fashion.

:D

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