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Win by better percentage
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: War Child

Description: A proposal but forth among the UN must win by at least 75% of the votes to be passed. This therefor will stop proposals that almost half of the Nation States world dislikes from being passed and therefor make everyone happier.

Approvals: 1 (War Child)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 139 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Nov 20 2004

Weak. Very weak. For one thing, this alienates most of the UN members (most UN members are not democracies, I have found). Also, it has no method of enforcement, no actual agenda, no real goal, no laws to be made... In effect, it's not even a proposal. Also, the phrase "almost half" of the people hating those should tell you that some like those proposals and this will fail to make everyone happy.

If I am getting the wrong idea, try posting more of it here. But so far, it looks like a waste of a proposal.

I have voting records for 92 UN resolutions. Of those 92 UN resolutions 47 of them had less than 75% of the votes cast in favor, 10 of those 47 had less than 50% of the votes cast in favour, 2 of those 10 I believe the voting records that were given to me are in fact "switched" or wrong -- those records predated my nation joining the UN.

Anyway, what your proposal is really saying is you'd like to remove about 37 to 39 of the resolutions that passed, bringing the number of passed UN resolutions still on the books (which is at 80) to 41.

I think the system is fine now.

Here is the data ... though it is locked in PDF, which means you won't be able to manipulate it like I can:

http://pweb.netcom.com/~mierzwa10k/una/Ressummary.pdf


And for those of you interested in what I've been doing with the United Nations Association, I've updated the Human Rights and Social Justice files (links later) and started work on a graphic that I'll present to this body in the form of a State of the UN summary:

http://pweb.netcom.com/~mierzwa10k/una/votingsupport.gif

This image actually is relevant to the question at hand:

How much support do UN resolutions receive?

The UN has started a membership tracking survey, based on grab sample data, which might turn out to be useless or might answer questions on the stability of the organization. We won't know for a few months on this study.


Finally the UNA will soon be announcing a "United Nations Organizations" clearing house. I'm pretty excited about this, but I would rather not show a preview of this yet. But to tease a few of you, there are a few other nations that know where I'm hoping to take this. So use your intel and maybe so other nation will leak. ;)

Anyway, the UNA is getting closer to helping new and old members better understand the behavior of the UN.

http://pweb.netcom.com/~mierzwa10k/una/votingsupport.gif

How much support do UN resolutions receive?


One last thing ...

What types of resolutions do you feel get greater than 75% support? Think about it, look at the spreadsheet, and then at the figure above.

In other words, be careful what you ask for ... you may be in for some surprises.

Win by better percentage
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: War Child

Description: A proposal but forth among the UN must win by at least 75% of the votes to be passed. This therefor will stop proposals that almost half of the Nation States world dislikes from being passed and therefor make everyone happier.

Approvals: 1 (War Child)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 139 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Nov 20 2004

#1) Poor spelling and grammar.

#2) Violation of game mechanics (you can't make resolutions to change actual game code, which is what would be involved to alter the present voting system) Though, I do feel sympathy for you, and, myself, would like to see the need for resolutions to pass "significant majority" rules to make it off the floor. But that cannot be done by resolution...

#2) Violation of game mechanics
About time someone pointed that out...

If you want a change, go post it in the tech forum. I doubt Sal or Max will change any thing, but you can suggest it. Doing it via proposal is not the way to go, and could get you a UN warning.

We likes all tha wranglin' an' cussin' so nay says we.