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It only needs two more approvals. I whole heartedly support this resolution.

It only needs two more approvals. I whole heartedly support this resolution.
Could you post a copy so that we can see what you approve of?

Also - are you aware of this :-
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7030210&postcount=69

Also - are you aware of this :-
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7030210&postcount=69

Whoops. Nope. Sorry. There's so many resolutions...


Well, it's look like it already too late. I'm pretty sure everyone will just vote yes.. maybe...

Whoops. Nope. Sorry. There's so many resolutions...


Well, it's look like it already too late. I'm pretty sure everyone will just vote yes.. maybe...

If it does get the one proposal it needs, I am pretty sure that it will come up for debate in this forum. And so if there are any reasons why this one is a duplicate of the one already passed, someone will notice :}

Side note : there is a sticky topic at the top called "Passed Resolutions" - it has all of the ones that have passed listed in a very short space so that they are easy to find. May I suggest you (and I know you are not the one who made the proposal we are discussing) read that first, as it is a very useful guide as to what has passed and what hasn't.

Tori.

If it does get the one proposal it needs, I am pretty sure that it will come up for debate in this forum. And so if there are any reasons why this one is a duplicate of the one already passed, someone will notice :}

Side note : there is a sticky topic at the top called "Passed Resolutions" - it has all of the ones that have passed listed in a very short space so that they are easy to find. May I suggest you (and I know you are not the one who made the proposal we are discussing) read that first, as it is a very useful guide as to what has passed and what hasn't.

Tori.

Yeah. Thanks. It might be becuase it's about 10pm here so my brain isn't functioning at full power which would have made me check.

Whoops. Nope. Sorry. There's so many resolutions...

Well, it's look like it already too late. I'm pretty sure everyone will just vote yes.. maybe...

But you are right, there are many resolutions. That is why at the UNA archive I'm filing them under their UN category. It would have been much easier to spot this in the Human Rights listing:

http://pweb.netcom.com/~mierzwa10k/una/HumanRights.pdf


To be honest, I don't mind revisting resolutions, but North Koster's (nice Delegate BTW) resolution is barely 3 months old. But my opinion counts for squat around here. *waves angry fist at the Gods*

I've brought it to the attention of the mods. It's a solid, well-written proposal that efectively duplicates an existing proposal ... and that's the fatal flaw, I'm afraid. Pity - it's actually better than the other one, but the author apparently submitted it on his/her first or second day.

It's gone now, but here's the text of it. Let's encourage the author to try again after reading what's already done.
Preventing human trafficking
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Melpia

Description: The UN defines 'human trafficking' as the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harboring, or receipt of persons, by means of threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation.

Human trafficking is against human rights, measures should be put into action to prevent and fight against this inhuman practice. It is already illegal, but many nations do not know how to deal with it, as it is very hard to recognise human trafficking and arrest the traffickers.
This is why this resolution proposes to:

1) Assess every nation's situation concerning human trafficking, and create an electronic database containing 'maps' with the usual routes of traffickers in order to better fight against it;
2) Ameliorate border control institutions by executing random searches of suspect vehicles and training personnel to recognise cases of human trafficking;
3) Officially view human traffickees as victims, and not as criminals;
4) Create a program for the integreation of traffickees, making it possible for them to access psychologists, lawyers and translators if needed, and to pursue their education and search for a job;
5) Consider individuals awaiting the traffickees as criminals, on the same level as the traffickers;
6) Create international programs which would facilitate legal proceedings concerning the extradition of foreign traffickers to their country of origin;
7) Reccommend the reunion of the UN Global Programme Against Trafficking of Human Beings (UNGPATHB), the UN Human Rights Commission (UNHRC) and representatives of all member states in a meeting held every three years which would :
a.discuss human trafficking and its prevention on a worldwide scale,
b.explore solutions to national problems individual countries may be experiencings,
c.revise international treaties, declarations, and conventions regarding human trafficking;
8) Ask member states to review their judiciary system, and ecourage nations to make judiciary decisions harsher towards traffickers and individuals awaiting the traffickees, in the hope that it will discourage traffickers from continuing.

This resolution was written in the hope that human trafficking diminish on a worldwide scale.

Approvals: 139

Status: Quorum Reached: In Queue!

Two questions ... should this be archived similar to the NS Olympics proposal? It was never a resolution, but it qualified to become one.

Second, I wanted to point out that when I saw this today I found another problem:


7) Reccommend the reunion of the UN Global Programme Against Trafficking of Human Beings (UNGPATHB), the UN Human Rights Commission (UNHRC) and representatives of all member states in a meeting held every three years which would :
a.discuss human trafficking and its prevention on a worldwide scale,
b.explore solutions to national problems individual countries may be experiencings,
c.revise international treaties, declarations, and conventions regarding human trafficking;

First, this is a very well written proposal, and clause 7 would have won my vote ... but for the wrong reason. I would be voting because it is obvious to me, a UN-phile, that the author knows his / her UN-organizations, as these are pre-existing real UN organizations. But that is the problem. In NationStates there is no UN Human Rights Commission ... yet. Though in the real world there are two things here that are of interest: the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) (http://www.unhcr.ch/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home) which would apply to the Xtraordinary Gentlemen's resolution Refugee Protection Act and then the UNHRC which you've mentioned, which is better known as the Commission on Human Rights (http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu2/2/chr.htm) (in order to not bump into the UNHCR).



That said, here is how you can fix your resolution, and I'll be happy to help campaign for you, because I know how much it sucks to have a proposal deleted when it is on its way to the UN floor (it happened to Hersfold and my Global Disaster Assitance proposal was on the fast track itself when a mod issued me a warning).

So to fix this, remove the real world references (clause 7). Then in the preamble, make a reference to North Koster's "Ban Trafficking in Persons" resolution adopted Aug. 1, 2004. And then since North Koster's resolution doesn't set up a watch dog agency, do that now! :)

Create a NS UN Human Rights Commission, and charge it with what you wanted to do here.

Your idea is good. Do not be discouraged! If you try again, I and many others will help you rewrite this, because as Frisbeeteria pointed out, the previous resolution, though a good topic, could use a bit of armor.

And if you mess with NationStates, I actually see refugees falling into a different but similar circumstance. You could create three organizations:

UN Human Rights Commission
- Sub-Committee on Trafficking of Persons
- Sub-Committee on Refugees

Both resolutions laided down rules for our countries, but what about the status of these people? Are these laws being effectively carried out? And even if the UN doesn't have power in non-UN members, wouldn't it be interesting if the UN Human Rights Commission was around to let us know?

If you want to make a resolution doing any of this (some or all), remember the golden rule ... committees are magically staffed and can never officially interact with the forums. You can create them, and they will have people and money. You just can't do anything that will make the "Gods" think that you are adding to their real workload, so avoid making references to the forum.

In any event, I would like to say Frisbeeteria is right. You did nothing wrong in my book, and should be proud that you collected ~140 endorsements! Few players can claim that ... and I honestly think your proposal is very well written.

To my knowledge, and in accordance with existing NSUN resolutions, this topic is already covered by existing law...

To my knowledge, and in accordance with existing NSUN resolutions, this topic is already covered by existing law...

And it was deleted once it was called to the attention of the moderators. Hmmm, has anybody contacted the resolution author yet to point him / her to this thread? I'd like to see him / her try again.

Hey, I'm the author of the resolution this thread is about and, wow, I really didn't expect to get so many approvals ^^. Thanks a lot to all of you who encouraged me. I wasn't aware that another reso about this had already been written, it's my bad I should've looked first. I totally understand my reso being deleted. I don't think I'll try rewriting it to submit it again, but anyone who wants to is free to use some of the ideas I put in mine.
The reso was actually inspired by a resolution passed at my school's Model United Nations meeting.