NationStates Jolt Archive


Repeal the Legalization of Prostitution

Earendiil
09-11-2004, 01:33
I was reading the resolution on the legalization of prostitution and realized: its wrong. So, this is my argument against it.

Prostitution can result in spreading infectious diseases such as AIDS. Governments would then have to spend money to also put a watchdog on the Prostitution business to gurantee a customers safety, reliability, and also to prevent children from going into the profession. Prostitution is also a form of slavery for some people in a way that its very difficult to escape the ring of prostitution. The money supposedly going to the poor on taxes on this business would have to be spent also to gurantee safety and rights. Legalizing prostitution is giving in to a more corrupt, society. While many countries believe in complete freedom for all, there is a line that must be drawn to determine what is considered extreme freedom. Yes, a woman should have rights to their own body, however, when it impresses on the face of society, it becomes an issue. Sex is a form of pleasurable activity and creation. It should not be used as a business. Everyone has the oppurtunity to have sex, for free that is. So why should a few people decide that they can charge money for something that is so abundant?
TilEnca
09-11-2004, 02:00
Let me first off say that this is a well written opposition. I don't agree with a single part of it, but it is very well written. Go you!


Prostitution can result in spreading infectious diseases such as AIDS. Governments would then have to spend money to also put a watchdog on the Prostitution business to gurantee a customers safety, reliability, and also to prevent children from going into the profession.


All of this will happen whether it is legal or not. And if it is legal there are more protections to prevent the spread of diseases, and to prevent children from being taken in to it.


Prostitution is also a form of slavery for some people in a way that its very difficult to escape the ring of prostitution.


Again - this will happen whether it is legal or not. And if it is illegal it is more likely that enforced prostitution will occurr, since there will be little or no regulation of it.


The money supposedly going to the poor on taxes on this business would have to be spent also to gurantee safety and rights. Legalizing prostitution is giving in to a more corrupt, society.


On a petty manner - what is the comma before "society" for?
And on a more serious comment I see no evidence to support the idea that making prostitution makes the nation more corrupt. I would like to hear your support of this arguement.


While many countries believe in complete freedom for all, there is a line that must be drawn to determine what is considered extreme freedom. Yes, a woman should have rights to their own body, however, when it impresses on the face of society, it becomes an issue.


Why? Prostitution doesn't hurt anyone - and if it does hurt someone than that someone probably would be hurt anyway (for example if a man is going to cheat on his partner with a prostitute, that is hardly the prostitutes fault. And if the man is going to cheat, they are probably going to cheat even if prostitution is banned)


Sex is a form of pleasurable activity and creation. It should not be used as a business. Everyone has the oppurtunity to have sex, for free that is. So why should a few people decide that they can charge money for something that is so abundant?

But lots of things that are done for pleasure are used for business. And what about sexy films? Ones where the actors and actresses simulate sex? And - come to think of it - the porn industry? If people can have sex on film for money, why can they not do it in private?

And I am sorry, but not everybody has the chance to have sex for free. First you have to find someone who doesn't find you physically repulsive, someone who is not married or not "with somebody". Then you have to find a way to get them in to bed.

Some people do get free sex - by rape. If there is the chance a rape can be averted by the potential rapist going to a prostitute, then I say they are doing a good service and should be appluaded.

I realise that I have disagreed with almost every point you have made, but please don't take it personally. Like I said - this is a well written, well thoughtout repeal to a resolution. But as you can see I have issues with some of the things you are saying, and would like to hear from you further on this matter :}
Earendiil
09-11-2004, 02:20
I will agree that the last part is a little radical and far-fetched. However, You did make a point that all that stuff would happen whether or not it was legal. The government would act upon the problems, which I do agree with. The problem posed is that:
Where exactly is this money coming from to protect the business and the customers? Alot of money will have to be spent to protect businesses, it could ruin banks who loan money to prostitution business, and what about filing for bankruptcy? All of these situations require money. There probaly wouldnt be enough money from taxing the prostitutes to pay for all of this. Its like adding another industry, except this times its more expensive. Less money would be going to the poor to protect the customers and businesses. So in theory, its costing more money for protection and anything that comes along with sustaining a business, than it is to just declare it illegal and throw the people in jail or even fine them.
Nieuwe Munchkinland
09-11-2004, 06:32
The best case that I have ever heard against the legalisation of prostitution unfortunately is completely subjective:

Thought experiment: Assume that prostitution has been legalized, women (most prostitutes are woman) are no longer beat up by their pimps, are into rehab, it's all out in the open, taxed, with health care available, etc. etc.. Now think to yourself: my mom is that prostitute. Or my sister. Or my girlfriend/wife. Or me. But that's okay, right? It's all legal and out in the open.

For most people, the thought of the women closest to them (those that they care about and respect as individuals) having such a "job", no matter how sugar-coated the situation, makes them uncomfortable. Why?

I think that the problem has very little to do with legal/illegal, and would agree that legalisation probably makes things (in general) better for many prostitutes for some (not all) of the usual arguements.

However, legalisation does not alter how women are seen by too many members of society on a fundamental basis that makes sex-for-money so traumatizing to most prostitutes: the lack of respect, woman-as-meat attitude, the concept of her identity not defined by herself but by someone else even if only for the span of the act, etc. If this were addressed at its core, rape would also no longer be such an issue because the problem is not about sex. It's about power. Power of one individual over another (made worse by the fact that the first individual does not even recognize the second as an individual, only as a label: "prostitute" or "victim"). Power either perceived or real.

Social attitude is not exactly something that can be regulated, however (a very good thing...). Who knows? Maybe keeping prostitution legal and keeping abortion rights in place, as well as women's rights, will make everyone more relaxed about everything until future generations (of Nationstates, of course) look back at prostitution as something incomprehensible, or even forget that it ever existed.

This is already true for the good citizens of Nieuwe Munchkinland. Prostitution may be legal (we are in the UN), but everybody here thinks that it is a silly so-called "profession", and our men and women are so liberated and happy and respectful and "fulfilled" and "not uptight" in ALL ways that they can't conceive of why anyone would want to do such a thing when they all (men and women) have much better opportunites for free.
Vastiva
09-11-2004, 06:35
As soon as something is acceptable, in a few generations, no one thinks about it anymore.

Consider, for example, interracial marriages in the USA. In the 50s, it was verboten. In the 70s, it was startling. In the 90s... its common.

Vastiva likes its sex workers. They bring in lots of taxes, they fulfill a need of society, and they bring education to the populace (there's a reason they need licenses).

So, we vote against your proposal to repeal, and add we see no good arguement in your arguements.
Adam Island
09-11-2004, 17:55
While the ambassador from Adam Island would "never" use the free and cheap prostitutes that populate the poorer areas of our country, I cannot support this law as the UN should not be telling my citizens what reasons they are or are not allowed to have sex.
_Myopia_
09-11-2004, 19:18
I think pretty much all my points have already been made. Suffice it to say, we consider it beneficial to all parties involved to have prostitution legalised, and are staunch believers in the rights of adults to engage in whatever consensual sexual activities they please in private, for whatever reason.