NationStates Jolt Archive


The repeal of the working week

Saint Les
03-11-2004, 18:41
Dear fellow UN members. I am asking all UN delegates to help me get my repeal heard on the global stage for all to vote. I am asking that you put your approval on the repeal of the 40 hour working week. I believe that many citizens need to work more to keep their heads above water.
Please I beg you to approve this.

Saint Les Loves All His Children.
Frisbeeteria
03-11-2004, 18:45
Please post the entire text of your repeal, exactly as submitted, so that we can comment without having to dig through that massive list. Thank you.
Saint Les
03-11-2004, 18:52
I hope this helps. This is my arguement. I may not be very good but I feel it's worth repealing.

My country occasionally needs workers to work longer than 40 hours that don’t fall into the exceptions and I'm sure that many other nations feel that this is also the case. Also, some citizens are now at a loss as they cannot work the extra hours they require to pay for basic needs such as food and housing and with the prostitution Act in action as well, this means that many people cannot survive. Although I am against Prostitution, I feel that this act needs to be repealed in order to help the poorer citizens in my nation and probably citizens in other nations as well.
Frisbeeteria
03-11-2004, 18:54
That helps, but it's not what I requested. Post it like this:
Repeal "The 40 Hour Workweek"
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #59
Proposed by: Saint Les

Description: UN Resolution #59: The 40 Hour Workweek (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: My country occasionally needs workers to work longer than 40 hours that don’t fall into the exceptions and I'm sure that many other nations feel that this is also the case. Also, some citizens are now at a loss as they cannot work the extra hours they require to pay for basic needs such as food and housing and with the prostitution Act in action as well, this means that many people cannot survive. Although I am against Prostitution, I feel that this act needs to be repealed in order to help the poorer citizens in my nation and probably citizens in other nations as well.

Approvals: 2 (Oriental Guinea, The Antarctican People)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 135 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Nov 6 2004
Frisbeeteria
03-11-2004, 19:03
While Frisbeeteria doesn't like this law either, I'm afraid your argument fails to address the actual issues.

There is an 80-hour total time limit to voluntary overtime in the original resolution. Only compulsary overtime is subject to the exceptions. Any worker that needs the extra time can not only get that time (assuming the employer is willing to pay), but they also get time-and-a-half guaranteed by the UN.

There also appears to be no limitation on the number of jobs that an individual can work. If your zombie workforce wants to work two different 80-hour jobs or four 40-hour jobs in a 168-hour week, I don't see anything in this resolution that prevents them from doing so. As long as they don't have a contract, they can't be "contractually obligated to work more than 40 hours per week".

Loopholes exist for those who look carefully.
Saint Les
03-11-2004, 19:30
Thats ok then, but I still want it repealed!! How many workers do you know would work voluntary? Even if they need the money, it doesn't stop them refusing voluntary work. Plus by making them work longer than 40 hours, also helps the government retain money as less will be paid in benefits.
_Myopia_
03-11-2004, 19:56
Thats ok then, but I still want it repealed!! How many workers do you know would work voluntary? Even if they need the money, it doesn't stop them refusing voluntary work. Plus by making them work longer than 40 hours, also helps the government retain money as less will be paid in benefits.

A resolution has been passed around this topic. It's called, as I remember, "End Slavery".
Aliana
03-11-2004, 20:15
Thats ok then, but I still want it repealed!! How many workers do you know would work voluntary? Even if they need the money, it doesn't stop them refusing voluntary work. Plus by making them work longer than 40 hours, also helps the government retain money as less will be paid in benefits.

If I had to choose between starving or working longer, I'd work longer- I don't think people are going to get themselves into serious financial problems if they can get out of it through voluntary overtime- people aren't /that/ stupid.

As for helping the government- the government doesn't have to pay anything, it's the companies who pay for overtime.
See u Jimmy
04-11-2004, 19:13
Sorry End Slavery.

Ownership of another human is vastly different to hard work.
In running your own company form home you could well exceed the 40 hour rule.

Should it be wrong to work hard to suceed?

Repeal! I say Repeal!!
Margeranium
04-11-2004, 21:13
40 hour work week?...neeeehhhh

i feel 36 would be a plan...raise salaries and cut friday to 4 hours...
i think the govenment would benifit in the long run...
Adam Island
04-11-2004, 21:43
I think there should be a 0 hour forced work-week. All work should be voluntary.
_Myopia_
04-11-2004, 22:14
Sorry End Slavery.

Ownership of another human is vastly different to hard work.
In running your own company form home you could well exceed the 40 hour rule.

Should it be wrong to work hard to suceed?

Repeal! I say Repeal!!

'Scuse me, but if you're running your own company from home, you probably won't be contractually obligated to work any specific amount of time. And even if you were, you could still work 80 hours a week, because you're allowed an additional 40 hours of overtime.

And the End Slavery reference was made because Saint Les was talking about making people work, and saying, it appeared, that you couldn't leave it to the voluntary decisions of individuals to work longer.