NationStates Jolt Archive

Having just regained my delagate status after the recent UN deligate mixup (aka the problem with the system) I started looking at the current slate of proposed resolutions. All I can say is I'm glad I'm not a moderator.

The first resolution I saw on the queue had the following provision, "If you lot don't get this through, I'll be back with, oh, 1,2, maybe three more proposals, and you wouldn't want that, would you?" Do people realize that a proposal once written cannot be amended. Once voted on approved it remains on the list of approved reslutions FOREVER. Even when repealed it is still there, only with a strikeout line. Resolutions with stupid attempts at presuasion an argument, if approved, will remain as a permanent reminder of the idiocy of the original proposer.

Then there is a resolution on the queue that proposes a secondary UN, in direct violation of all proposal standards out there.

Then there is a resolution proposed in triplicate. (OK that could have been a internet problem, I have seen plenty of cases where people triple post in a forum so perhaps we can let that slide.)

Personally I think we need to be stricter on the proposals not more lienent. A resolution should not even be visible on the queue until it has been given a Nil Oblistat by a moderator. I'd rather see no proposals at all, than a plethora of prposals that are in gorss violation of all the rules of the game. And there should be a way a mod can reject without giving a warning ... especially for wrong category or other minor infractions, so that the gross violators are not considered as equally vile as the person who might have hit the wrong option before posting and caused it to be registered under the wrong category.

I just went through all the current proposals and was amazed to find how many of these are proposals for things that already exist. Not to mention many of them are one and two sentences and are either outrageous, ridiculous, or say nothing about the subject at all.

I know what you mean. It is BEYOND pathetic. I've improved my speed-reading skills, however.

I totally agree. I am guilty of revising proposals though. My first one isn't bad, but there are so many gross errors in it that I'm glad it's faling. This is why so many proposals make it through without going to vote. Actually if you look at some of the UN resolutions they aren't much better (such as the DVD region resolution). People simply need to think about something before they propose it. Simply ask youself "does this have any chance of making it to vote?" If the answer is no, don't propose it. If you really feel the need to voice your opinion post it on the forum and co-author a proposal with help from the forum.

I would like to propose a rules change (and perhaps this request is better placed in the Technical category) to impose a population requirement for submitting proposals. There's one in place for Issues, which seems to cut down on the number of duplications. This may be seen as anti-n00b, and for that I do not apologize.

I believe this would cut down on the number of duplicate, spurious, and frivolous proposals we're seeing. It would also be nice to require discussion/debate in the forum on any proposal before it's in the queue, (kind of like a subcomittee in congress/parliament) but this may be impossible to enforce.

I would like to propose a rules change (and perhaps this request is better placed in the Technical category) to impose a population requirement for submitting proposals.
Make a new thread in Technical to make this suggestion if you're serious about it, but keep in mind that we already have safegaurds (2 endorsements to submit a proposal), that the problem is not only with newbies, and that this won't really solve the problem described in this thread.

I am the current State of Resolutions, and I think things are just peachy.


People are having fun, which makes sense since this is a game.

Play on.

Bahh, humbug.