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Global Education Initiative:

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Strong
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Description:

Recognizing the need to provide quality, publicly-funded education for all people,

Underscoring the importance of literary to the betterment of a nation's society and economy,

Noting the necessity to continue working towards increasing literacy around the world,

Understanding the importance of a strong education system to help alleviate socio-economic disparity,

Acknowledging the importance of education for economic growth and development,

Realizing the importance of post-secondary education for economic growth in a modern economy,

Concerned by the inability of students from low-income families to attend post-secondary institutions,

Recalling Resolution 3: Education for All passed by the UN on 8, January, 2003, and Resolution 28: Free Education passed by the UN on 19, August, 2003,

Further recalling Resolution 54: UN Educational Committee, passed by the UN on 9, April, 2004,

Noting the necessity of defining the role and function of the UNEC,

The United Nations defines the role and function of the UNEC as follows:

1. The role of the UNEC shall include:
a) Providing educational grants to UN member states that request financial help for their education programs,
b) Providing supplies directly to public education institutions that have applied for supply grants to the UNEC,
c) Evaluating the level of need of all applicants for UNEC assistance, and
d) Monitoring the implementation of its grants;

2. Establishes a United Nations Educational Trust Fund, which will be managed by the UNEC and funded through donations by international, national, and non-governmental sources;

3. Recommends two advisory panels to the UNEC, composed of:
a) up to two teachers from each UN member state, and
b) up to two students from each UN member state;

4. Instructs the UNEC to take into consideration all of the recommendations provided by the UNEC advisory panel;

5. Authorizes the UNEC to base the decisions concerning the awarding and continuation of the United Nations Education Trust Fund grants on both the recommendation of the UNEC advisory panel as well as on information collected on the current status of overall quality of the programs that apply for financial aid;

6. Suggests that the evaluation of the current status of the overall quality of educational programs includes a budget analysis of the educational program, student retention, school curriculum and program of study, educational goals of the society in question, and feedback from the students / teachers / administration and representatives of the country applying
for the grant;

7. Affirms that the grants provided by the UNEC will only be used for educational purposes, such that if the UNEC has reason to believe the funds or supplies it provides are being used for non-educational programs, the UNEC may vote to suspend the funds upon an investigation, as provided by its monitoring program described above;

8. Acknowledges the inherent right of societies to determine what is best for their children, by taking into consideration the cultural and social needs of the member states and schools that apply to the UNEC;

9. Reaffirms that the financial resources provided by the UNEC should be given out on a need basis, with the nations most in need of assistance given a priority in the UNEC decision making process;

10. Expresses its hope that in time that nations will be able to supplement the aid provided by the UNEC and that the programs and institutions that apply for UNEC aid may become self-sufficient;

The United Nations further declares that:

1. Access to quality public education is deemed a fundamental human right for all children up to and including the age of 19;

2. All people over the age of 19 seeking to attain primary and secondary education have the right to affordable access to quality education of this level;

3. Nations should provide access to post-secondary education institutions to all qualified applicants who are unable to afford it;

4. Nations should reform student loan programs in order to completely pay for the tuition of the applicant with the condition that repayment of the loan begins one year after completion of the applicant's degree;

5. Access to affordable post-secondary education for all qualified applicants, regardless of ability to pay, is deemed a fundamental human right;

6. A UN Sub-committee on Post-Secondary Education, hereafter referred to as UNSCPSE, be establish and shall be responsible for: assisting nations in restructuring their student loan programs, assessing requests for funding for the expansion of post-secondary education institutions and the construction new institutions and infrastructure for nations who apply for assistance, and assessing requests for funding for nations unable to pay the initial bill for the restructure student loan program;

The United Nations defines the role and function of the UNSCPSE as follows:

1. The role of the UNSCPSE shall include:
a) Providing assistance, expertise, and recommendations to any nation seeking advice in restructuring their student loan programs,
b) Assessing requests for the expansion of post-secondary education institutions, and the construction of new post-secondary institutions and infrastructure,
c) Assessing requests for capital to cover the initial expense of the restructure student loan programs,
d) Forwarding their assessments and recommendations on the requests for funding by nations to the UNEC for the committee's evaluation and approval to distribute funds from the UN Educational Trust Fund,
e) Monitoring the use of all assistance provided to nations who receive it and reporting any violations to the UN Education Trust Fund and UNEC so that funding may cease immediately;

2. Recommends the creation of an advisory panel to the UNSCPSE comprised of economists and accountants elected to the advisory board by member states;

3. Instructs the UNSCPSE to take into consideration all of the recommendations provided by the UNSCPSE advisory panel and to include these recommendations with any requests forwarded to the UNEC for the approval of the distribution of funds from the UN Education Trust Fund;

4. Affirms that the grants provided by the UNSCPSE will only be used for covering the initial costs of restructured student loan programs and for expanding and building post-secondary education institutions, such that if the UNSCPSE has reason to believe the funds are not being used for the specified programs, the UNSCPSE may vote to ask the UN Education Trust Fund to suspend the funds upon an investigation, as provided by its
monitoring program described above; and

5. Reaffirms that the financial resources provided by the UNSCPSE should be given out on a need basis, with the nations most in need of assistance given a priority in the UNSCPSE decision-making process.

a) Providing educational grants to UN member states that request financial help for their education programs,


In the moderation forum I am asking about as very similar issue: if the NS UN even has funds. I has assumed that the UN received donations from member state (much like the RL UN). I am beginning to believe that I need to explicitly suggest that UN members make donation so that my proposed studies (nothing as ambitious as what you are proposing) may be funded.

Your and anyone elses thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.

Backing my argument is the statement in Resolution 53 that seems to say that the UNEC will "by providing funding to these systems" implement a large number of repairs to schools.

One thing I would be interrested in drafting, but I would probably need some assistance from people as this could be a rather tricky thing to create, but creating some sort of equivalent to the World Bank only for Nation States. That way programs such as mine and yours would supply funds via low interest loans from the bank or something like that. Of course this bank would be a lot more compassionate and a lot less corrupt and be theoretically under the direct control of the UN, not act as its own entity and simply report to the UN once in a while.

any other comments or suggestions?

I know this sounds redundant but I am really curious if anyone has any opinions or suggestion for this resolution. Also will anyone support it?

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3. Recommends two advisory panels to the UNEC, composed of:
a) up to two teachers from each UN member state, and
b) up to two students from each UN member state;


You are aware of how large these panels might become? With the potential for four people from each UN state that is - in the hundreds of thousands I think? Isn't that just a tad large for a panel?

19 is a very old age for a child - by the time someone turns 19 in TilEnca they would have been an adult for five years.

"5. Access to affordable post-secondary education for all qualified applicants, regardless of ability to pay, is deemed a fundamental human right;"

See - I kind of have a tiny problem with this. Say Joni Smith wants to do a degree (or whatever you would call it - a post-secondary education qualification) in basket weaving. My nation would pay for that degree - the tution (not the books or housing etc). But if she drops out for no good reason (or if she fails) then if she wants to do it again then she has to pay for it the second time round, or at least the government would not pay for it. The same applies to anyone who wants to do a second degree after they have got their first one.

(A good reason is - for example - extended hospital time, family berevements and so forth)

The reason is if you pay for all education all of the time then there is the chance someone would spend their whole life doing these degrees, without passing them, at the tax-payers expense without ever contributing to the said taxes.

Also I would not define it as a fundemental human right. University education is a prividge, even if it is paid for by someone else (the government, your parents, your husband etc)

I think Hersfold, the original author of the UNEC, was working on a proposal to more accurately define the roles of the organisation. You may want to TG that nation.

Also, this seems very long and may not fit. You may have to break off the bit about post-secondary education and make it into a new proposal.

I have discussed this a bit with Mikitivity who gave me permission to include the draft proposal of the UNEC definition so if it looks similar, that's why. I believe I made mention of it in a note at the top.


Tilenca, the age of 19 was chosen for 2 reasons. First because the Child Protection Act defines a child as 18 years or younger. Second, because some students actually will turn 19 during their final year of secondary education (depending on the cirriculum), hence why up to and including 19 was specified.

University education is a priviledge yes, but what kind of priviledge is it. A priviledge for the rich or a priviledge for the intelligent. This resolution is designed to help ensure students from low-income families can afford to pay for post-secondary education if the student is accepted into a post-secondary education institution. This resolution is designed to help narrow the disparity of wealth in the world by breaking the perpetual cycle of poverty for the lower class, hence why it is classified as a social justice resolution.

I agree the panels do seem very large, I did almost no alterations to the UNEC definition proposal which that clause is a part of but I will bring it up with Mikitivity and telegram Hersfold about it.

In regards to concerns over abuse of the post-secondary education issue, I completely agree that if a student fails out of an institution without a "valid" reason which must be defined, then the governments are not obliged to continue to pay for tuition if they try to enter again. I will think of a way to modify the proposal to address this.

In regards to the length, I could make it a 2 part resolution, GEI I and GEI II. I have a third part of sorts in a resolution on childcare and early childhood development and education, currently I've titled the International Childhood Development Act but its still far from being ready to put up here.

Tilenca, the age of 19 was chosen for 2 reasons. First because the Child Protection Act defines a child as 18 years or younger. Second, because some students actually will turn 19 during their final year of secondary education (depending on the cirriculum), hence why up to and including 19 was specified.


In which case could you modify your proposal to say the same? That it is 19, or the age of majority in the nation if it is lower. Because otherwise you would force me to fund five years of adult education, which is not acceptable to me.


University education is a priviledge yes, but what kind of priviledge is it. A priviledge for the rich or a priviledge for the intelligent.


It's a priviledge for those who can show they deserve it. Not by how much they pay, or what social class they come from, but that they do not waste their time when they are doing it.

As I said - TilEnca happily funds somone's first degree (for three/four years depending on the course), but if they just doss around and get drunk, then fail, why should the public foot the bill so they can do it again for another four years?


This resolution is designed to help ensure students from low-income families can afford to pay for post-secondary education if the student is accepted into a post-secondary education institution. This resolution is designed to help narrow the disparity of wealth in the world by breaking the perpetual cycle of poverty for the lower class, hence why it is classified as a social justice resolution.


And I accept that. Education should not be based on class or ability to pay. But - like I said - would this extend to me having to fund someone doing the same course over and over again with out them putting any effort in to passing?


In regards to concerns over abuse of the post-secondary education issue, I completely agree that if a student fails out of an institution without a "valid" reason which must be defined, then the governments are not obliged to continue to pay for tuition if they try to enter again. I will think of a way to modify the proposal to address this.


Is this why I should read whole entries before replying? (ooops!)

Seriously - thanks for contemplating addressing that last part - it was my major concern with it.

I'll also make the distinction about a lower age of majority in some countries like yours, thanks for pointing out your concern. Now that being said, does the education below post-secondary education end at age 15? I'm leary of allowing the potential problem ofcreating a loophole that nations wont have to provide complete publicly funded quality education for the secondary level.

I'll also make the distinction about a lower age of majority in some countries like yours, thanks for pointing out your concern. Now that being said, does the education below post-secondary education end at age 15? I'm leary of allowing the potential problem ofcreating a loophole that nations wont have to provide complete publicly funded quality education for the secondary level.

We don't exactly have primary and secondary education, but based on my understanding of how primary and secondary works, a person in my nation would turn 14 during their last year of secondary education - and they would not turn 15 until after they leave school.

Does that help?

Yes it does, thanks.

This looks like a very good work, and I can tell that you have been working with Mikitivity on this. It contains almost the entire draft of the "Defining the UNEC" proposal, and, it's too long to fit. :rolleyes:

This definitely needs to be cut down A LOT. As it is, I think it's about twice the length limit. However, it is most definitely a good proposal, as I feel Education should be one of the UN's higer priorities, and my resolution definitely needs some defining.

I will post a copy of your draft above, and recommend some changes. Things in red I would recommend you take out, for reasons I will give in green. Things in bold I would recommend you add in. In blue, I have edited.

Here goes:

Recognizing the need to provide quality, publicly-funded education for all people,

Underscoring the importance of literacy to the betterment of a nation's society and economy,

Noting the necessity to continue working towards increasing literacy around the world,

Understanding the importance of a strong education system to help alleviate socio-economic disparity,

Acknowledging the importance of education for economic growth and development, You're basically repeating yourself with these three passages - and the preamble really needs to be shortened.

Realizing the importance of post-secondary education for economic growth in a modern economy,

Concerned by the inability of students from low-income families to attend post-secondary institutions,

Recalling Resolution 3: Education for All passed by the UN on 8, January, 2003, and Resolution 28: Free Education passed by the UN on 19, August, 2003,

Further recalling Resolution 54: UN Educational Committee, passed by the UN on 9, April, 2004, Put it all in one section - shorter.

Noting the necessity of defining the role and function of the UNEC, Keep that.

The United Nations defines the role and function of the UNEC as follows:

1. The role of the UNEC shall include:
a) Providing educational grants to UN member states that request financial help for their education programs,
b) Providing supplies directly to public education institutions that have applied for supply grants to the UNEC,
c) Evaluating the level of need of all applicants for UNEC assistance, and
d) Monitoring the implementation of its grants;
e) Suspending such grants if monitoring proves that they are not being used for educational purposes; See Article 7

2. Establishes a United Nations Educational Trust Fund, which will be managed by the UNEC and funded through donations by international, national, and non-governmental sources; Keep that.

3. Recommends two advisory panels to the UNEC, composed of:
a) up to two teachers from each UN member state, and
b) up to two students from each UN member state; Article 3 can be cut out if really necessary.

4. Instructs the UNEC to take into consideration all of the recommendations provided by the UNEC advisory panel; Take this out with 3 if you do.

5. Authorizes the UNEC to base the decisions concerning the awarding and continuation of the United Nations Education Trust Fund grants on both the recommendation of the UNEC advisory panel as well as on information collected on the current status of overall quality of the programs that apply for financial aid; Edit to match, if 3 and 4 are taken out.

6. Suggests that the evaluation of the current status of the overall quality of educational programs includes a budget analysis of the educational program, student retention, school curriculum and program of study, educational goals of the society in question, and feedback from the students / teachers / administration and representatives of the country applying
for the grant; Shortening

7. Affirms that the grants provided by the UNEC will only be used for educational purposes, such that if the UNEC has reason to believe the funds or supplies it provides are being used for non-educational programs, the UNEC may vote to suspend the funds upon an investigation, as provided by its monitoring program described above; This can be added to Article one, a lot shorter.

8. Acknowledges the inherent right of societies to determine what is best for their children, by taking into consideration the cultural and social needs of the member states and schools that apply to the UNEC;

9. Reaffirms that the financial resources provided by the UNEC should be given out on a need basis, with the nations most in need of assistance given a priority in the UNEC decision making process;

10. Expresses its hope that in time that nations will be able to supplement the aid provided by the UNEC and that the programs and institutions that apply for UNEC aid may become self-sufficient; Keep that.

The United Nations further declares that:

11. Access to quality public education is deemed a fundamental human right for all children up to and including the age of 19; This overrides Resolution #28, "Free Education", which gives all up to age 18 the right to a free education. You may want to take it out.

12. All people age 19 and over seeking to attain primary and secondary education have the right to affordable access to quality education of this level; Editing to include the 19 year olds, if you take out article 11.

13. Nations should provide access to post-secondary education institutions to all qualified applicants who are unable to afford it;

14. Nations should reform student loan programs in order to completely pay for the tuition of the applicant with the condition that repayment of the loan begins one year after completion of the applicant's degree;

15. Access to affordable post-secondary education for all qualified applicants, regardless of ability to pay, is deemed a fundamental human right; You already said this in Article 12.

16. A UN Sub-committee on Post-Secondary Education, hereafter referred to as UNSCPSE, shall be established. and shall be responsible for: assisting nations in restructuring their student loan programs, assessing requests for funding for the expansion of post-secondary education institutions and the construction new institutions and infrastructure for nations who apply for assistance, and assessing requests for funding for nations unable to pay the initial bill for the restructured student loan program; If you leave all that in, you'll be repeating yourself in a moment.

The United Nations defines the role and function of the UNSCPSE as follows:

17. The role of the UNSCPSE shall include:
a) Providing assistance, expertise, and recommendations to any nation seeking advice in restructuring their student loan programs,
b) Assessing requests for the expansion of post-secondary education institutions, and the construction of new post-secondary institutions and infrastructure,
c) Assessing requests for capital to cover the initial expense of the restructure student loan programs,
d) Forwarding their assessments and recommendations on the requests for funding by nations to the UNEC for the committee's evaluation and approval to distribute funds from the UN Educational Trust Fund,
e) Monitoring the use of all assistance provided to nations who receive it and reporting any violations to the UN Education Trust Fund and UNEC so that funding may cease immediately;

18. Recommends the creation of an advisory panel to the UNSCPSE comprised of economists and accountants elected to the advisory board by member states; Like above, can be taken out if necessary.

19. Instructs the UNSCPSE to take into consideration all of the recommendations provided by the UNSCPSE advisory panel and to include these recommendations with any requests forwarded to the UNEC for the approval of the distribution of funds from the UN Education Trust Fund; Take this out along with Article 18 if you do.

20. Affirms that the grants provided by the UNSCPSE will only be used for covering the initial costs of restructured student loan programs and for expanding and building post-secondary education institutions, such that if the UNSCPSE has reason to believe the funds are not being used for the specified programs, the UNSCPSE may vote to ask the UN Education Trust Fund to suspend the funds upon an investigation, as provided by its
monitoring program described above; and Previously stated in Article 17e.

21. Reaffirms that the financial resources provided by the UNSCPSE should be given out on a need basis, with the nations most in need of assistance given a priority in the UNSCPSE decision-making process.

Ok, I'm done butchering it. That is probably still not short enough, even if you take out everything I recommended that you do, and add nothing. I re-numbered everything for ease of reference - having three Article 1's is a little confusing. If there is anyway I can help further, please let me know. I will gladly support this if it is ever submitted, and hope that you will do so at some point. Good work, to both you and Mik.

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Not to ask a dumb question, but does numeracy fit in to this at all? Cause being able to read is one thing, but being able to do maths is a whole other things, which is equally important :}


"They have a 100% literacy rate. How do they do that?"
"Maybe they don't, and they can't count either"

Well I think it can be generally assumed that if children are going to attend quality education programs as this resolution deems is a human right and offers a council to help nations to pay for it if they cant afford it, then they would learn mathematics.

Alright thank you very much for all the constructive feedback Hersfold. I do have a couple of comments and questions about some of what you did suggest should be edited.

First off just a note, article 3 is being changed so as to cut down on the size of the panels and I agree can be cut out if absolutely necessary.

Article 11 does override resolution 28. Resolution 28 overrides resolution 3 i believe it is (the first education resolution that deems education should be free for everyone up to age 16). I explained earlier why I said up to age 19 as it was to ensure that anyone who turned 19 during their final year didnt have to pay fees. Also, i am adding in a clause that specifies up to age 19 or the age of majority if age of majority is lower than 19. This applies directly to a concern made by Tilenca about the age of majority being 15 in his country.

Article 15 is very different from article 12. Article 12 talks about affordable access to quality education for all adults seeking primary and secondary education. Article 15 discusses post-secondary education.

Other than that I will make all the other changes you suggest, I just await your feedback on those points.

While our government feels that education is very important, we do not feel that it is a universal right. The only way it could conceivably become a universal right is if all governments were able to provide for the education and willing to do so.

This is inconceivable, as not all nations will be able to provide the education, as there is a monetary cost for doing so that cannot be met be all nations. By forcing a sovereign nation to do something that, in some cases, would be detrimental economicly, the UN would be encroaching on the sovereignty itself of a nation.

Since the level of the education of a populace has no real effect on the population of another nation, there should be no need for such a proposal. Unless, of course, the proposal would only require voluntary compliance.
With only requiring a voluntary compliance, the sovereignty of the nations would be held intact.

This resolution defines the role ofthe UNEC which was created in resolution 54 and creates a trust fund for it which would supply funds to nations unable to pay for the costs of providing quality public education. In addition, the UNSCPSE also will provides analysis and recommendation to the UNEC which will then decide to issue funds to help nations pay for the initial capital required to fund restructured student loan programs and pay for the costs of expanding post-secondary education institutions and building new infrastructure.

The purpose of the UN is to work for the betterment of all people, this betterment includes access to quality public education.

Trust funds are not bottomless pits of money. While the funds could help with the costs that this proposal would force other nations to pay, the nations will still have to foot the bill for something that is unnecessary.

And "education" itself is not defined clearly in the proposal, as there are different levels of education, and not every citizen needs the highest level of education that is available.

It is the conlusion of the empire that the United Nations has more important issues to address than whether or not it should force sovereign nations to pay for the education of individual citizens.

You are aware of how large these panels might become? With the potential for four people from each UN state that is - in the hundreds of thousands I think? Isn't that just a tad large for a panel?

There would be at present 150,360 persons on this panel. That is 4 times the amount of member nations (35,308) and Delgate nations (2,282).

I must agree in saying that this proposal is both unnecessary and impractical.

As I stated earlier, the panel requirements are being changed so you don't have to worry about the rather large numbers you just gave. Please read my responses to issues brought up not just the issue. I try and answer every issue as they occur as quickly as possible.

Nostre I think I just again addressed an issue of why it is impractical. Ifail to see why it is unnecessary, could you elaborate please.

The afore mentioned proposal is unnecessary, as it is an effort to force compliance to standards that have not yet been set and are still subjective in nature.

Once again, there are different levels of education. If this proposal is passed, it is possible that entire cultures may be devestated. Countries that thrive on handmade goods have no need for their general populace to be educated at the highest level possible.....or at any level higher than that which would facilitate production in the work force.

While I am in favor of assessment by a committe, compliance with the regulation should be voluntary, which would also make it more feasible for the fund mentioned to do some good in aiding willing nations.


Matthew Anderson

Representative for the Empire of Nostre Patrus

Reposted in later thread

"University education is a priviledge yes, but what kind of priviledge is it? A... priviledge for the intelligent." See actual comment in earlier post.

This is why something more than literacy should be a qualifier. Good english, an attempt to use rhetoric, and absolutely no reasoning.

Sure, let's let anyone and everyone go to a University. While were at it, to heck with grades, all they do is hurt people's self esteem and create an elitist group of intellectuals. The world would be a far better place if everyone was entitled to a piece of paper saying University Graduate was to be considered as competent as the next, and just as worthy of the notation received. To think otherwise would be thoughtcrime.

Okay - I have read this five times and I still don't get what your point actually is.

I assume he is being sarcastic and is making a mistake that many others had because they failed to properly read this resolution. This resolution does not advocate giving everyone a post-secondary education. What this resolution does is allow those from low-income famiies who have the grades to get in, be able to get in even though they cannot afford to pay for tuition. This resolution is designed to end wealth disparity by allowing students from low-income families to focus on their studies instead of working 3 jobs so they can achieve the marks to get into university and have that tuition paid for by the government. The loan would then start being repaid one year after the completion of the degree. I wish you would please completely read and understand the resolution, that way you will see this difference.

I assume he is being sarcastic and is making a mistake that many others had because they failed to properly read this resolution. This resolution does not advocate giving everyone a post-secondary education.

You are right. It is perfectly clear that this resolution is not talking about college by any means.

You are aware of how large these panels might become? With the potential for four people from each UN state that is - in the hundreds of thousands I think? Isn't that just a tad large for a panel?

It is actually a formality imposed upon the UNEC. The advisory panel doesn't have to physically move or meet anywhere. In fact, nothing suggests that this panel actually *meets*.

My thought in originally creating this was to insure teachers and students that their opinions would be legally part of the record of UNEC decisions. Each nation would nominate (by however they like) up to two students and teachers to formalize their position and make recommendations to the UNEC. Teachers and students that aren't a part of this group can still do this, but their opinions wouldn't be required reading by the UNEC.

Now the UNEC members / staff could divide up this load, but let's actually look at several working UN created committees:

The IRCO and UNSC ... both of these organizations have very low participation from UN member states. The IRCO doesn't even have a forum for UN members (something that I feel should be changed). The UNSC is hosted by the Texas forum, and has some activity, but easily less than a hundred nations actively participate in the UNSC decision making process. The UNSC in practice is very easily managable.

Ok, I'm done butchering it. That is probably still not short enough, even if you take out everything I recommended that you do, and add nothing. I re-numbered everything for ease of reference - having three Article 1's is a little confusing. If there is anyway I can help further, please let me know. I will gladly support this if it is ever submitted, and hope that you will do so at some point. Good work, to both you and Mik.

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That is a great and useful edit!

We still need to cut this down, and to something that is probably closer to a 1/3 of the above current text.

I completely agree that a resolution should only have one article 1.

Let's see how the current resolution ends up, as I have a feeling it will pass. In that resolution debate, the subject of funding came up. One way to trim this all down might be to pass a separate resolution just establishing the United Nations Educational Trust Fund and then talk about how it is funding and who manages it. I think the UNEC should manage the fund. That would be a very short and streamlined resolution ... and a good start for future resolutions.

I really hate to divide this into separate proposals. I see that that may be the only alternative, and if it is, oh well, but if there is anyway we can trim this to fit, we should do it.

In response to other posts:

Arturistania: Sorry, I misread the post-secondary section.

Nostre Patrus: The UNEC will look over the educational goals of the society in question before wasting funds on facilities and equpiment they don't need. Please read Article 6. And yes, we are aware that a trust fund will not create and endless supply of money to be handed out freely. However, with organized fundraisers, donations from private organizations and nations, the UNEC will eventually have enough money to operate smoothly. (OOC) The real-life UNICEF holds a yearly fundraiser in the United States each Halloween (Oct 31), asking kids to go to houses as they would for normal trick-or-treating, but instead of asking for candy (or while asking for candy - after all, that's the main reason they do it), they will also ask for donations, which are placed in a specially-marked box to be sent to UN Headquarters. They get a ton of money from it each year. If they can do it, we can do it.(/OOC)

(OOC) The real-life UNICEF holds a yearly fundraiser in the United States each Halloween (Oct 31), asking kids to go to houses as they would for normal trick-or-treating, but instead of asking for candy (or while asking for candy - after all, that's the main reason they do it), they will also ask for donations, which are placed in a specially-marked box to be sent to UN Headquarters. They get a ton of money from it each year. If they can do it, we can do it.(/OOC)

OOC: I was happy to spot a UNICEF Haunted House at one of the Vancouver based IKEA stores early October as well. I think your real-life example is a good one.

Thank you. :)

Bumping this, as it has kind of died...

I'll be finishing the new draft in the next two days (have had a couple of major papers to finish). Then I'll post it.

I'll be finishing the new draft in the next two days (have had a couple of major papers to finish). Then I'll post it.

While I disagree with you on most other topics, this one I can agree on.

In fact, if you need someone to propose it to the UN, or you want my approval as a delegate, you have it.

I am the delegate for my region but since it is small and only 2 of the 5 are members of the UN, I don't have enough endorsements to make a proposal. I am hoping that I will be able to encourage one of the other members of the region to join the UN and endorse me so I can place the new version of this draft up for delegate endorsement.

I am the delegate for my region but since it is small and only 2 of the 5 are members of the UN, I don't have enough endorsements to make a proposal. I am hoping that I will be able to encourage one of the other members of the region to join the UN and endorse me so I can place the new version of this draft up for delegate endorsement.

In that case, you can still count on my approval...