NationStates Jolt Archive

I would like to have a proposal regarding the use of missle sattelites-sattelites that can carry missles and can potentially hit anywhere on the earth.

I think these are extremely dangerous to the security of this planet. I think all further launches of these sattelites needs to be stopped and and current sattelies in space with these missles need to be dissembled and brougt back to earth.


Another possible proposal ive been thinking about is the ban of military colozination of space

I'll be voting against this one. I need my ortillery to maintain the balance of power.

Edit: In any case, the UN has no jurisdiction in space.

" I would like to have a proposal regarding the use of missle sattelites-sattelites that can carry missles and can potentially hit anywhere on the earth. "

I would be voting against it to the point where no weapons of mass destruction will be from "space to earth" even tho when someone launches a missile it would probably would go through space to hit another nation but you get my point.

" think these are extremely dangerous to the security of this planet. "

Not really it would do some good for a "single" power to have that edge on other nations as it would deter others from attacking innocent countries ( we just need a country who is responsible to take that lead ).

" I think all further launches of these sattelites needs to be stopped and and current sattelies in space with these missles need to be dissembled and brougt back to earth. "

All further launches? thats the problem, theres has yet to be satelites with missile on em as of now. Basically there will be a "satelite missile arms race" which there not even being a satelites with missiles in the first place. :P

Even if nations "did", would the UN even have that power to stop them? I mostly think that they would use space weapons as either 2 areas. 1 is for "self defense" and the other is just like what Axis Nova said it would be and that is for "balance of power".

" Another possible proposal ive been thinking about is the ban of military colozination of space "

Kinda early for military colonization since the only other planet we can barely make it to is Mars and with high prices of course. I say we worry about Earth first then as we complete's Earths starvation then we will be able to go on the next stage for going out to space.

EDIT: Remember its not "further development" thats the question it's " preventing " a space missile network which is the concern of the future.

I guess someone would say is where is the limit to what is considered "an act of self defense" or " balance of power" or better yet "Imperalization of a power"??

Some of which I said goes beyond that of the space missiles, however it does fit nonetheless.

San Salvacion, many nations in Nationstates have technology considerably in advance of what is available in the real world. Orbital weapons are not only doable, but actually somewhat common.

Edit: In any case, the UN has no jurisdiction in space.

That's not true. The UN has voted on resolutions concerning space in the past. There are UN members on different planets. The UN has jurisdiction wherever there are members.

Anyway, I'd vote against this proposal...Hirota has a very small army, and rely on orbital nukes to maintain our borders.

Oh, then i must be back in the early 21st era : P

If such advances do exist then I would have to say I would still be against it by not going to destroy all of of the satelite missile system but maybe by limiting the numbers would help ballance power somewhat.

That's not true. The UN has voted on resolutions concerning space in the past. There are UN members on different planets. The UN has jurisdiction wherever there are members.

Anyway, I'd vote against this proposal...Hirota has a very small army, and rely on orbital nukes to maintain our borders.


The UN can vote the moon is blue, too, but that doesn't make it so. I seem to recall the UN tried to vote itself the right to declare the moon UN property... if that's the resolution you're referring to, it is null and void due to the fact that there are lunar nations that already own parts of the moon.

Edit: Even if this passed, how exactly do you propose the UN enforce this? The UN has no space force of it's own, and UN member nations shooting down each other's missile satellites is one of the fastest ways to a world war I can think of.

Edit: Even if this passed, how exactly do you propose the UN enforce this? The UN has no space force of it's own, and UN member nations shooting down each other's missile satellites is one of the fastest ways to a world war I can think of.

The UN doesn't have a police force, but is able to enforce resolutions that pass. It doesn't matter if it is in space or my aunts backyard, if the UN passes it, then it happens and affects all UN nations. <shrugs>

The UN can't enforce a resolution unless there are means written into a resolution to make it do so. The only game effects are raising or lowering certain stats of a nation.

End Slavery: no means on how it was enforced, but it was passed and it happened.

Protect Historical Sites: no means detailed on how they were protected. but it passed, and now our historial sites are protected.

Need I go on?

If you join the UN, you have an obligation to enforce the resolutions passed. You can PRETEND you are not, but the resolution is enforced, and effects your nation. Thats what you see when your stats change.

Just because it doesn't say how you carry it out does not mean you don't. It is down to governments to fulfil their obligations. If this resolution passed, in order to remove the missiles from space, I'd launch them. ;)

If you shoot down any of my satellites, I'll turn your nation into a smoking crater ;)

edit: Though in reality, I don't use nukes. I find an orbital network of SOL sats, ion cannon sats, and Thor sats are more than sufficient for my purposes.

If you shoot down any of my satellites, I'll turn your nation into a smoking crater ;)I wasn't thinking of your satellites, I've found inney-minny-miney-mo would work the best way on a few land based nations ;)

edit: Though in reality, I don't use nukes. I find an orbital network of SOL sats, ion cannon sats, and Thor sats are more than sufficient for my purposes.One of the reasons this proposal is pap. :)

Space should not be used for militrary purposes... all nations should treat it as global territory.

That's a nice sentiment, chief, but the fact is, it's already used for military purposes, in some cases by nations that exclusively live in space.