NationStates Jolt Archive


Firearms ban

Derothia
17-10-2004, 16:20
I would like to write a proposal to ban all firearms in dometicated places. This should cut down gun crime rates and homocides by a substantial amount. Only organizations with a license can use guns (eg police, army). Applying for a licence will be a long drawn out process to weed out potential killers.

I want to know who is with me on this and who is able to help me pass this proposal.

JUST SAY NO :sniper:
Frisbeeteria
17-10-2004, 16:30
No.
Apatheticia
17-10-2004, 16:51
What a frigan ridiculous idea. Have you ever looked at the crime rates in Great Britain and Australia? They have the same policy you are requesting to create and their crime rates if anything have highered substantially.Citizens would be much safer with guns than without them. They must be required to have liscences renewed every few years though of course.
Derothia
17-10-2004, 16:57
yeah I live in the UK and gun crimes are a damn sight less common that America. Well I want to tighten gun control so not just any nerk can get their hands on one.
GMC Military Arms
17-10-2004, 17:07
yeah I live in the UK and gun crimes are a damn sight less common that America. Well I want to tighten gun control so not just any nerk can get their hands on one.

Unfortunately for that point of view, gun crime in the UK has increased since the law banning posession of handguns came into effect.
Nazizuim
17-10-2004, 17:18
To ban the rights to own firearms leaves your nations people at risk to defend themselves against an advancing nation. Although you may have a strong military and the aid of other nations in the time of war; you should always be prepared allow your privet and domesticated areas to be able to protect themselves. If you want to control gun crimes you must better fund your local police to monitor the buying and selling of arms, and their movements.
Derothia
17-10-2004, 17:25
then could one not issue weapons in just those times of crisis?
Stellastar
17-10-2004, 17:47
To the kid who started this forum, Ironic that your sig. has someone shooting a gun? :p

Bad idea, If this was endorsed, i'd leave.
Genies and Gypsies
17-10-2004, 18:36
Guns havent ever killed anyone, its people who haved killed. Banning guns and firearms will achieve nothing because then there will be illegal firearms, and on top of that killings in a more brutal way. Banning firearms will not work, in any way shape or form. :mad:
Haven14
17-10-2004, 19:28
the answer to this proposal is simply.....no..
Kill kelley Klan
17-10-2004, 19:30
Let us say Guns were made illegal for civilian ownership, and the government collected all guns those already in civilian hands.

1. The police would not have to face criminals with more powerful weapons that will punch through a bullet-proof vest with ease

2. Murders would decrease, it's harder to kill someone with an ordinary weapon and guns make murder much more impersonal

3. Robbers a muggers with knives or clubs could be repulsed by an ordinary citizen who runs away of picks up a rock

4. When actually assualted by someone holding a gun, drawing your own personal firearm will only make him shoot you, or cause a firefight that could kill innocent bystanders

5. With only the government having guns, criminals wouldn't be able to smuggle arms to fuel conflicts in other countries or arm terrorist groups



This would require the rounding up of guns that people already have and harsh laws that would put many gun-companies out of business, also better coast guard and border patrol to stop arms-smnuggling into these countries where pesonal fire-arms are banned



{kinda disfigured writing because i'm stoned right now}
Derothia
17-10-2004, 21:15
Ok thanks for your points, guess i'm wrong. Just a suggestion.
Tuesday Heights
17-10-2004, 22:35
Ok thanks for your points, guess i'm wrong. Just a suggestion.

It's not that you're wrong; you want to be able to attack a proposal this way from all angles to prevent UN forumites from being able to point out the loopholes and as such is sound and thorough.
Axis Nova
18-10-2004, 00:27
No.
Novus Arcadia
18-10-2004, 06:07
I fully bealieve in an individual citizen's right to have firearms. I also believe that it is necessary to regulate them and monitor the activity carefully; I have just proposed a resolution to the U.N. called "Primary Regulation," a proposal that suggests the banning of assault weapons.
Novus Arcadia
18-10-2004, 06:13
I would like to call everyone's attention to a seemingly unusual phenomenon called "government takeover" - it may seem unusual, but it happens. When the police turn on you, in an attempt to strip you of individual rights, and it becomes police who burstt into your homes at night, insisting that you follow the to a secret trial, it's time to defend yourselves; this is why the Second Amendment was established, because that did happen to the thirteen colonies which eventually became known as the United States of America.
Axis Nova
18-10-2004, 07:33
I fully bealieve in an individual citizen's right to have firearms. I also believe that it is necessary to regulate them and monitor the activity carefully; I have just proposed a resolution to the U.N. called "Primary Regulation," a proposal that suggests the banning of assault weapons.

Violation of national soveriegnity.
P3X1299
18-10-2004, 08:22
If such a proposal is passed, the P3X1299 will have no choice but to withdraw from the U.N. because of conflicts with laws of P3X1299.

In other words, no.
The Seventh Ring
18-10-2004, 22:51
Your proposal is preposterous.

Regardless of law, criminals will be able to obtain weapons.
It is defenseless citizens who will suffer the most.

If you want protection against criminals, a powerful organized militia is the answer.
Derothia
19-10-2004, 09:57
do you mean like a secret police?