World Intelligence and Security
SouthernAsia
10-10-2004, 02:41
Dear friends and fellow member-states,
As the representative for SouthernAsia, I would like to make a recommendation to the international community: I propose we establish a multi-national security apparatus to combat crimes against the international community across state borders. For instance, if NationStates had its own version of the Darfur Crisis...we could sent World Intellignce and Security in to investigate what exactly is happening. We could investigate and prosecute multinational criminal networks and terrorist "nests"...the possibilities are limitless..I would like to hear recommendations and thoughts on this before officially proposing it.
-Thank You,
SouthernAsia
Dear friends and fellow member-states,
As the representative for SouthernAsia, I would like to make a recommendation to the international community: I propose we establish a multi-national security apparatus to combat crimes against the international community across state borders. For instance, if NationStates had its own version of the Darfur Crisis...we could sent World Intellignce and Security in to investigate what exactly is happening. We could investigate and prosecute multinational criminal networks and terrorist "nests"...the possibilities are limitless..I would like to hear recommendations and thoughts on this before officially proposing it.
-Thank You, SouthernAsia
Although my nation does understand and even applaud the ideals involved in such a proposal, there are a great many issues that would have to be dealt with here. Asking nations to investigate other nations, asking nations to accept a definition of terrorist, asking nations to prosecute criminals from other nations....... there are all things that my nation would want the proposal to be clear on before any support could be given.
I a reprosentitive from the RH would like to say this would be an excellent proposal if a few changes where made. I would like to ask where the money to form and maintain this organisation is coming from. To answer my own question I would say that all UN members must pay 100,000 dollars from their nations goverment each year. Also I think that no UN Nations should be investigated unless ACCURATE evidence is given to this organasation,and theirfore will result in a private investigation from a private branch of this organazation. Overall this organazation would only investigate non-UN suspected Nations. If these things where added into this resolution I on behafe of the RH would endorse this resolution.
I a reprosentitive from the RH would like to say this would be an excellent proposal if a few changes where made. I would like to ask where the money to form and maintain this oranisation is coming from. To answer my own question I would say that all UN members must pay 100,000 dollars from their nations goverment a year. Also I think that no UN Nations should be investigated unless ACCURATE evidence is given to this organaszation,and theirfore will result in a private investigation from a private branch of this organazation. Overall this organazation would only investigate non-UN suspected Nations. If these things where added into this resolution I on behafe of the RH would endorse this resolution.
But isn't half the problem that no accurate information can be found, so things have to be investigated until it can be found?
And as to only investigating non-UN members - that is a conflict of interest (or something like that). If the UN is going to investigate crimes it has to be free to do it within any nation, and the UN does not get to define those that are above suspicion.
To answer my own question I would say that all UN members must pay 100,000 dollars from their nations goverment a year.
That is getting dangerously close to a tax by the UN, which is forbidden under UN Taxation Ban, Resolution #4, passed January 13 2003. You are also making no allowance for different currencies and economic systems - there are UN members which do not have a monetary economy.
First I mean Accurate information as somone knows a nation it doing wrong that would be enough information as long as it isnt a UN member I think that in order to investigate one of our own members we should have more proof that they are doing somthing illegal.
It is not a tax and if they do not have the money the UN would know about it. If that is the case then the UN should simply ask for a percentage of the income that would normaly pay for the 100,00 dollars.
Merridonia
10-10-2004, 05:37
And what, exactly, would you plan to do with the twenty thousand shiny red rocks that my country would be sending under this resolution?
Throw them at the terrorists?
Perhaps being a bit snarky,
--Miss Chaly Merridew
SouthernAsia
10-10-2004, 05:48
Well I wouldn't worry about taxing to pay for it...why not just include funds for the Organization in the funds you set aside for your own intelligence/police/security operations. We san set up an Assembly of member states to vote on commanding officers and cost assessments.
It is not a tax and if they do not have the money the UN would know about it. If that is the case then the UN should simply ask for a percentage of the income that would normaly pay for the 100,00 dollars.
Just going on from my earlier point. Which currency would be used as the measure? Within the real world, I can name at least three countries that use the dollar as the monetary unit, but they are different currencies. One Australian dollar does not equal one New Zealand dollar, and neither equal one American dollar.
This is the problem with specifically asking for money - you effectively can't. By using the dollar, you are using a RL example, which is not allowed. An alternative would be to set aside a percentage of GNP, but this would, in effect, be a tax by the UN, and not allowed under the Resolution I previously pointed out to you.
First I mean Accurate information as somone knows a nation it doing wrong that would be enough information as long as it isnt a UN member I think that in order to investigate one of our own members we should have more proof that they are doing somthing illegal.
Shouldn't all nations be treated equally? Just because a nation is not a member of the UN doesn't make it any less honourable than one that is.
Plus UN resolutions don't apply to non-UN nations, so this would not give UN member nations the right to investigate anything.
Peace and Wealth
10-10-2004, 17:30
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Dear friends and fellow member-states,
As the representative for SouthernAsia, I would like to make a recommendation to the international community: I propose we establish a multi-national security apparatus to combat crimes against the international community across state borders. For instance, if NationStates had its own version of the Darfur Crisis...we could sent World Intellignce and Security in to investigate what exactly is happening. We could investigate and prosecute multinational criminal networks and terrorist "nests"...the possibilities are limitless..I would like to hear recommendations and thoughts on this before officially proposing it.
-Thank You,
SouthernAsia
Look you dumbass the only way to get this completed is to change the games mechanics. And that is against the rules of the game. So all of you have foolishly wasted your time.
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Dear friends and fellow member-states,
As the representative for SouthernAsia, I would like to make a recommendation to the international community: I propose we establish a multi-national security apparatus to combat crimes against the international community across state borders. For instance, if NationStates had its own version of the Darfur Crisis...we could sent World Intellignce and Security in to investigate what exactly is happening. We could investigate and prosecute multinational criminal networks and terrorist "nests"...the possibilities are limitless..I would like to hear recommendations and thoughts on this before officially proposing it.
-Thank You,
SouthernAsia
Look you dumbass the only way to get this completed is to change the games mechanics. And that is against the rules of the game. So all of you have foolishly wasted your time.
Why?
What all of use are trying to say is that this proposal is rough draft,half thought through, and just plain not ready to be even posted.