NationStates Jolt Archive


United Nation Repeal

Shedor
06-10-2004, 00:23
I have a proposal that needs to be voted on here first before moving it on to the UN. The UN has left room in its voting system for a biased voting system. The UN makes it so that when someone wants to ammend or try and start a new law they have to have The Delegates vote for it first before normal memebers can vote for the Law. This is OK but the fact that they need 150 votes from the delegates to move the vote to being voted means that the Delegates that are biased will not vote making it impossible for the good laws to get through. For example if there are 200 Delegates and 150 them are all together in being evil and biased then no one is ever going to get the good laws in through to the real final voting. The UN delegates are also supposed to represent the nations of their region which when more then half of them are biased the Delegates don't succesfully represent most of us. The biased system needs to go down and this is the perfect way to do it. The laws that are new or ammended should only require 20 votes to make it to total UN voting. That way the biased people can't rule the UN. :)


Please Post if you agree
Texan Hotrodders
06-10-2004, 00:26
Excellent! Now we only need a much smaller minority of biased people to get proposals to quorum. Yay! Hmmm...wait a minute...
Enn
06-10-2004, 00:46
Uh, Shedor, you do realise that there are currently 2,212 delegates. To get a proposal to quorum, you require 6%, or 133. While this is difficult, it (generally) means that proposals have to go through a long vetting process, to ensure that the proposal is as good as it can be.
The number of delegates required to reach quorum is not arbitrary as you seem to believe, but a ratio. For what you are saying to be true, at least 94% of delegates would have to be not only biased, but biased in the same way. Not likely to happen in the short term, methinks.
TilEnca
06-10-2004, 01:35
(OOC)
Plus I am fairly certain that repeals/proposals that change the rules of the game are forbidden by the rules of the game. Would a moderator care to confirm or deny that, as I am only fairly certain :}
Komokom
06-10-2004, 08:33
I'm no 'a' mod of course but I know this one off by heart,

Yeah, what is being proposed here is known as a " game mechanics " change, where by you want to change the way the N.S.U.N. operates.

This cannot be done as it would require some re-coding of the U.N. part of the game, prolly a fair bit too for all that we know, and if a proposal about such a matter as this is put into the list, it'll be deleted by moderation staff, and possibly cause a warning to be sent to you.

Might I also remind people that the system we have here is little different then a lower and upper house system as used in quite a few democratic countries in real life.

* In my personal opinion, I'd like the number to be about 100-150, as it means only on verage the good stuff gets in after hard work, and we'll get less crap tossed up for general vote. Then again, the entire point of delegates endorsing a proposal is to help us weed out the crap in the first place I suppose, by crap proposals simply not getting enough support to survive.
Myrth
06-10-2004, 11:37
This is Game Mechanics and will not be implemented. If such a proposal is submitted, it will be deleted and you will recieve a UN Warning.