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***This Act Was Created on Monday September 20th, 2004, and is Intended to take effect Immediately upon it's passing***

Recognizing the growing terrorist threat in our world,

Understanding that terrorists will use planes as weapons of mass destruction,

We, the United Nations, resolve the following:

1. Screen every carry-on and non carry-on bag with X-Ray Screening.

2. Mandate that all who wish to board the plane must walk through a metal detector. Those who are of reasonable suspicion to security guards will be searched by hand and/or arrested. Security guards may NOT make issue of a passenger due to race or religion.

3. Require at least 10 (Ten) security guards per terminal.

4. Require all who fly to present a picture ID upon the purchase/claim of their ticket, along with 3 other "Points of Identification". The point system will be as follows:

Birth Certificate (Copy or actual): 2 points
Driver's Licence: 2 points
Passport: 2 points
Any Legal document proving name, birthdate, and adress: 1 point

5. Require 2 (two) UN-funded armed sky martials on every flight.

6. Allow no one, with the exception of 1 (one) designated flight attended enterance to the cockpit mid-flight.

If this is for the Nationstates game, may you defecate perpetually for posting this in the wrong forum.

Why should you need to carry other ID when you have a passport?
You cant get a passport without having a birth certificate anyway, so further documentation is pointless, and just helps you to forget/lose things.

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Birth Certificate (Copy or actual): 2 points
Driver's Licence: 2 points
Passport: 2 points
Any Legal document proving name, birthdate, and adress: 1 point

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Do you know how easy it is to forge these documents? DO YOU!?!?!

I feel that the "Point System" is a good law because fake documents that terrorists carry around usually have different pictures and names on them, where the terrorist would change his physical appearance to match a picture. With this in mind, creating all of these fake ID's with the same name, birthdate, adress, picture, ect., the hope is to deter terrorists from making ID's in the first place, or hope that the cost to make them will be to much, thus detering them from making/using them. Also the documents presented will be checked for authenticity.

This proposal is legal under NationStates rules*.

* ...except possibly the bit about "UN-funded"; technically speaking, UN member nations are paying for this, as International Security resolutions increase the military/police budgets of UN member nations. I guess it's just semantics, though.

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Do you have any idea how much it'd cost to put armed air marshals on every flight. A better plan would be to arm the pilot and secure the cockpit door. Most pilots are ex-military and woud have previous weapons training.

I feel that the "Point System" is a good law because fake documents that terrorists carry around usually have different pictures and names on them, where the terrorist would change his physical appearance to match a picture. With this in mind, creating all of these fake ID's with the same name, birthdate, adress, picture, ect., the hope is to deter terrorists from making ID's in the first place, or hope that the cost to make them will be to much, thus detering them from making/using them. Also the documents presented will be checked for authenticity.

It cost me practically nothing, and I was just doing it to see if I could. Imagine if I were a terrorist. System = useless.

***This Act Was Created on Monday September 20th, 2004, and is Intended to take effect Immediately upon it's passing***

Recognizing the growing terrorist threat in our world,

Understanding that terrorists will use planes as weapons of mass destruction,

We, the United Nations, resolve the following:

1. Screen every carry-on and non carry-on bag with X-Ray Screening.

2. Mandate that all who wish to board the plane must walk through a metal detector. Those who are of reasonable suspicion to security guards will be searched by hand and/or arrested. Security guards may NOT make issue of a passenger due to race or religion.

3. Require at least 10 (Ten) security guards per terminal.

4. Require all who fly to present a picture ID upon the purchase/claim of their ticket, along with 3 other "Points of Identification". The point system will be as follows:

Birth Certificate (Copy or actual): 2 points
Driver's Licence: 2 points
Passport: 2 points
Any Legal document proving name, birthdate, and adress: 1 point

5. Require 2 (two) UN-funded armed sky martials on every flight.

6. Allow no one, with the exception of 1 (one) designated flight attended enterance to the cockpit mid-flight.

I'm sorry but I can not even come close to supporting this. There is so much in it to oppose that I don't know where to begin.

Article 1 - I have seen studies that indicate X-Rays can have adverse affects on various types of magnetic media. Such as computers, floppy disks and so forth. To require the scanning of every peace of luggage would do potential damage to everything the passenger is holding.

Article 2 - Porcelin guns do not show up in metal detectors. Neither do non-metallic knitting needles. Neither do wands made out of wood (it's a long story)

Article 3 - Who pays for the extra security? And do these guards have to be armed? (see Article 5)

Article 4 - This will open up a whole new market in black-market IDs. Plus why should someone require a driving licence to be allowed to fly? Not everyone has access to their birth certificate. And what other legal documentation is there?

Article 5 - I am NOT putting guns on my aircraft. The moment you put a gun on the aircraft you allow it to be stolen and used against the person who holds it. Plus my police are not armed so I am not having a subset that are permitted to carry guns unless it is in response to an actual incident.

Article 6 - Erm - no. The job of flying an aircraft is not an easy one (so I am told - I am not a pilot) and the more I can do to make it easier for the pilots - not feeling like they are locked up in a box - the better. My pilots keep the door locked, but anyone is permitted to enter and leave as they wish.

So generally speaking I would not support this if it came to the floor.

Do you have any idea how much it'd cost to put armed air marshals on every flight. A better plan would be to arm the pilot and secure the cockpit door. Most pilots are ex-military and woud have previous weapons training.

For much the same reason as I mentioned above I am not willing to put guns on my aircraft for any reason.

I feel that the "Point System" is a good law because fake documents that terrorists carry around usually have different pictures and names on them, where the terrorist would change his physical appearance to match a picture. With this in mind, creating all of these fake ID's with the same name, birthdate, adress, picture, ect., the hope is to deter terrorists from making ID's in the first place, or hope that the cost to make them will be to much, thus detering them from making/using them. Also the documents presented will be checked for authenticity.

I don't which to sound cynical and pessimistic, but if you want to blow up a plane there is usually someone who is willing to fund you. And if a kid in junior high can produce ID then a huge, world wide organization could possibly do it as well.

If this is for the Nationstates game, may you defecate perpetually for posting this in the wrong forum.
Why is this kind of crap (no pun intended) even posted?

Why is this kind of crap even posted?
Because the lunatic goofball who posted this resolution started the topic in General, and the Lunatic Goofball who answered is one of the Generalites who doesn't like being reminded that there is a game attached to the Forums. Presumably.

It's really better to not let citizens fly at all. Where do they think they're going anyway?