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The Dominion of Castingsborough is relatively new to the United Nations of NationStates and wonders if its recent act of Parliament is in any conflict of a past UN resolution.


The Definition of Marriages Act
23 September 2004

SIGNED WHEREBY:

In the Presence of Parliament

-And-

His Right Honourable, Lord William Andrew Matthew Markle, MP, Minister Premier of the State, Governor General of the Provincial Territory of Hastingshire, New Providence, Minister of the Interior of the State of New Providence, Deputy Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Dominion of Castingsborough

-And-

Her Right Honourable, Lady Mona Charlotte Wahl Engekaug, State Governess, Governor General of the Government Provincial Territory of the Governesses, Minister of Defence of the State of New Providence, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Dominion of Castingsborough

Introductory Statements to the Definitions of Marriages Act:

WHEREBY it has been stated that before the Parliament of the Dominion of Castingsborough that legislation shall be passed by law that no member of the state may adopt a resolution of the United Nations that does not constitute the legalities of our own constitution as well as this act which it pertains. The Suffrage Act of 22 September 2004 was signed by parliament to begin providing more civil liberties for our citizens. The Dominion will maintain its position on giving outstanding rights to each of its citizens no matter of difference to their being. Whereby it was stated clearly by Parliament that this act shall define the marriages of our land and shall only define that of which it shall pass.

Chapter I: Definition of Marriages of the State

Section I: Marriage Definitions Prohibiting Same-Sex Marriages

Article I: Prohibition of Homosexual Marriages

(1) It is prohibited in the Dominion of Castingsborough for a male and a male to be married or a woman and a woman to be married as it has been declared by the Constitution that the prohibition of the marriages between same-sex couples should be determined as constitutional, thus presenting a definition whereas this form of marriage is not accepted.

Section II: Marriage Definitions Prohibiting the Recognition of Same-Sex Marriages

Article II: Prohibition of the Recognition of Homosexual Marriages

(1) It is prohibited in the Dominion of Castingsborough for any national, provincial, or other form of government to formally recognize the marriage agreement or bond between any homosexual marriage. This form of marriage has been deemed unconstitutional and shall not be of availability within our Dominion.

Section III: Marriage Definitions of the Nuclear Family

Article III: Acceptance of Heterosexual Marriages

(1) A man and a woman may be married into civil or holy matrimony in the Dominion of Castingsborough.
(2) It is only permitted that a man and a woman be married into civil or holy matrimony in the Dominion of Castingsborough.
(3) The man must be of age sixteen or older and the woman must be of age sixteen or older.
(4) Consent of Marriage must be applied for by the parties wishing to enter matrimony thirty (30) days before their matrimonial enterance.

Section IV: Permissions of the State

Article IV: Permissions of the State for Homosexual Marriages

(1) As outlined in Chapter One, Section One, Article One, Subsection One, it is unconstitutional for the Dominion of Castingsborough to grant homosexual or same-sex marriages of any kind thus resulting in the prohibition and denial of marriage between the two persons whom wish to be married in this manner.
(2) The State may not condone nor condemn the persons involved in same-sex acts for this action would be deemed as unconstitutional, however, the State must prohibit the union of same-sex marriage due to the Constitution of the Dominion.
(3) The State may not recognize the marriage bond between same-sex couples.

Article V: Permissions of the State for Heterosexual Marriages

(1) It is constitutional for the State to condone heterosexual marriages. The State may not prohibit the marrying of two or more persons which are eligible under this act to marry.
(2) The State can perform civil matrimony between heterosexuals in its High Courts.
(3) The State may issue Licenses of Marriage to persons entered into civil or holy matrimony.


Conclusionary Statements of the Definition of Marriage Act:

WHEREBY this enactment has been signed into the State's Ledger of Laws, any person who violates this act can and will be punished in the fullest extent of the law.

Speaking for the government of Munkinski, Prime Minister Marie Annabell Leigh:

What the nation of Castingsborough proposes is a moral outrage. The citizens of my nation have very few freedoms as it is, but one thing the government of Munkinski cannot and will not tolerate is butting into peoples home lives!

Who are we, the ruling parties of Nations, to decide whom a citizen can love? Who are we to decide how that love is expressed?

It is completely ASSANINE for a nation to suggest imposing their own moral prejudices against the rest of the world!

With all due deference to the young nation of Munkinski, this apparently has nothing whatsoever to do with the UN or other UN nations.

Am I wrong, Castingsborough? Is this a UN proposal of any sort? If it is, then it is redundant, improprerly phrased, and generally unworkable. If is isn't, then why are you discussing it here?

Speaking for the government of Munkinski, Prime Minister Marie Annabell Leigh:

What the nation of Castingsborough proposes is a moral outrage. The citizens of my nation have very few freedoms as it is

I believe that Prime Minister Leigh may have misunderstood Castingsborough's intentions - this document was not a submission for a resolution, it would appear to be internal legislation.

In response to Castingbrough's request, our government officals have looked over the document.

Article I: Prohibition of Homosexual Marriages
Well, that's a fundamental problem now isn't it? UN Resolutions have already passed that protect and enshrine gay marriage. If you are a UN member then you have no say in the matter unfortunately. Sadly that means article II is also junk.

So in essence, under the resolutions of the UN, the legislation passed through the Parliament is not allowed to pass. Alright, well it goes back to the drawing board. The State Governess, Lady Engeskaug wrote the Parliamentary act which would then subject it to veto by only the High Court of the Dominion. So the veto power would thus rely on them. I will do my best to keep it from passing through the government. I personally do not believe the Act is right, so I will stop the government's control of the love lives of people.

Sincerely,

Lord William J. Canterbury
Ambassador to the United Nations
Dominion of Castingsborough

Newest passing enactment of Parliament for the Dominion of Castingsborough:


The Definition of Marriages Act
23 September 2004

SIGNED WHEREBY:

In the Presence of Parliament

-And-

His Right Honourable, Lord William Andrew Matthew Markle, MP, Minister Premier of the State, Governor General of the Provincial Territory of Hastingshire, New Providence, Minister of the Interior of the State of New Providence, Deputy Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Dominion of Castingsborough

-And-

Her Right Honourable, Lady Mona Charlotte Wahl Engekaug, State Governess, Governor General of the Government Provincial Territory of the Governesses, Minister of Defence of the State of New Providence, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the Dominion of Castingsborough

Introductory Statements to the Definitions of Marriages Act:

WHEREBY it has been stated that before the Parliament of the Dominion of Castingsborough that legislation shall be passed by law that no member of the state may adopt a resolution of the United Nations that does not constitute the legalities of our own constitution as well as this act which it pertains. The Suffrage Act of 22 September 2004 was signed by parliament to begin providing more civil liberties for our citizens. The Dominion will maintain its position on giving outstanding rights to each of its citizens no matter of difference to their being. Whereby it was stated clearly by Parliament that this act shall define the marriages of our land and shall only define that of which it shall pass.

Chapter I: Definition of Marriages of the State

Section I: Marriage Definitions Prohibiting Same-Sex Marriages

Article I: Acceptance of Homosexual Marriages

(1) It is accepted in the Dominion of Castingsborough for a male and a male to be married or a woman and a woman to be married.

Section II: Marriage Definitions Prohibiting the Recognition of Same-Sex Marriages

Article II: Acceptance of the Recognition of Homosexual Marriages

(1) It is accepted in the Dominion of Castingsborough for any national, provincial, or other form of government to formally recognize the marriage agreement or bond between any homosexual marriage. This form of marriage has been deemed constitutional by the High Court of the Dominion and shall be of availability within our Dominion.

Section III: Marriage Definitions of the Nuclear Family

Article III: Acceptance of Heterosexual Marriages

(1) A man and a woman may be married into civil or holy matrimony in the Dominion of Castingsborough.
(2) It is only permitted that a man and a woman be married into civil or holy matrimony in the Dominion of Castingsborough.
(3) The man must be of age sixteen or older and the woman must be of age sixteen or older.
(4) Consent of Marriage must be applied for by the parties wishing to enter matrimony thirty (30) days before their matrimonial enterance.

Section IV: Permissions of the State

Article IV: Permissions of the State for Homosexual Marriages

(1) It is unconstitutional for the Dominion of Castingsborough to grant homosexual or same-sex marriages of any kind thus resulting in the acceptance and union of marriage between the two persons whom wish to be married in this manner.
(2) The State may not condemn the persons involved in same-sex acts for this action would be deemed as unconstitutional, however, the State must accept the union of same-sex marriage due to the Constitution of the Dominion.
(3) The State must recognize the marriage bond between same-sex couples.

Article V: Permissions of the State for Heterosexual Marriages

(1) It is constitutional for the State to condone heterosexual marriages. The State may not prohibit the marrying of two or more persons which are eligible under this act to marry.
(2) The State can perform civil matrimony between heterosexuals in its High Courts.
(3) The State may issue Licenses of Marriage to persons entered into civil or holy matrimony.


Conclusionary Statements of the Definition of Marriage Act:

WHEREBY this enactment has been signed into the State's Ledger of Laws, any person who violates this act can and will be punished in the fullest extent of the law.

Castingsborough, I ask again, since you ignored the first request ...

Does this have anything whatsoever to do with the UN?

I didn't blatantly ignore the first question, and please call me Ambassador Canterbury...

I thought that the Ambassador from Hirota explained it quite nicely:
I believe that Prime Minister Leigh may have misunderstood Castingsborough's intentions - this document was not a submission for a resolution, it would appear to be internal legislation.

This document was not a submission for a resolution, its internal legislation that I was looking to see if it violated any UN sanctions. Therefore, it has something to do with the UN.

Thank you for your time though sir, and I greatly appreciate your inquisitiveness.


Sincerely,

Lord William J. Canterbury
Ambassador to the United Nations
Dominion of Castingsborough

I didn't blatantly ignore the first question, and please call me Ambassador Canterbury...

I thought that the Ambassador from Hirota explained it quite nicely:


This document was not a submission for a resolution, its internal legislation that I was looking to see if it violated any UN sanctions. Therefore, it has something to do with the UN.

Thank you for your time though sir, and I greatly appreciate your inquisitiveness.


Sincerely,

Lord William J. Canterbury
Ambassador to the United Nations
Dominion of Castingsborough

I think the confusion comes in that I (for one, and possibly other people) thought this was soley a place for discussing UN proposals, resolutions and so forth, and not a place to ask whether or not your government had violated the rules set down by the various rulings of the UN.

Does anyone have an answer to this - is this the place to ask whether a law enacted in a nation violates a law enacted by the UN? Or is there another area to ask that? (Cause it would be helpful to know for the future!)

I agree, is there any place on this entire forum where something doesn't offend someone? I mean good grief every place I post people are screaming that you have to post it here and you have to post it there.

Post it as a "Castingsborough Factbook" in International Incidents. It's an RP thread for an RP forum.

?? how many other places have you posted it?

Well just here, I'm just saying that's been two responses that have told me I need to post elsewhere. I took your advice Frisbeeteria and I created a Lawbook of Castingsborough in the International Incidents forum, although I still don't know how it applies there either? :confused:

You're roleplaying national events over there, and this qualifies. NationStates forum is more person-to-person oriented (though you see that in II as well). It doesn't belong in a non-roleplay forum.

II is where you roleplay wars and alliances, and is a reference library for your military, diplomatic, trade, or what-have-you things about your nation.

Thank you for clarifying that. That was greatly apprectiated. :D

Where is it written down that you can't role play in the United Nations Forum? Plenty of us do it every time we post an argument from our ambassador proxy or when someone makes a "news media" event out of a proposal. I would say that these kind of posts add another dimension to our forum and should be welcomed. It would seem that since this is the best place to figure out what the UN is about, it's naturally where people would go to have ask questions about resolutions. Furthermore, looking over the II thread, unless you're declaring war, declaring godhood, or declaring a state of emergency, your role play isn't welcome.

Amen Brother!