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A Resolution to End Segregation!

Celticadia
18-09-2004, 21:15
I have just submitted a proposal in order to end segregation and respect the rights of all men and women. The text of the proposal is below.


The UN recognizes that all men and women are created equal. Therefore, everyone must be entitled to the same rights no matter what race or gender they may be.

With the passing of this act, the following laws will be put into place in every UN member nation:

1) Nobody will be restricted from a public place because of race or gender. In these public places, everyone will be allowed to use bathrooms, water fountains, swimming pools, and other facilities.

2) People may not be restricted from citizenship due to race or gender.

3) In countries that hold elections, every man and woman who is a valid citizen will have the right to register and vote, regardless of race.

4) No nation will be allowed to persecute people due to race or gender.

5) Public transportation must treat everyone the same, regardless of race or gender.

6) Private schools or organizations which allow any gender or race must not restrict anyone's freedoms, regardless of race or gender.

7)People of every race and gender are allowed to enroll in public schools and apply for employment as long as they meet requirements set universally for all races and genders to follow. No employed person will be denied pay due to their race or gender.

8) People of every race and gender may hold public office as long as they are valid citizens of their nation.

9) People of every race and gender have the right to purchase goods and no person will be denied services offered by organizations due to their race or gender.

10) People of every race and gender must follow the same government laws and will not be denied government welfare or medicare if their nation offers it.

11) Every person, regardless of race and gender has the right to join their nation's armed forces and no person in the armed forces, regardless of race or gender will be denied pay, services, and weapons.

12) People of every race and gender in nations that allow private ownership have the freedom to own property, housing, transportation, companies, insurance, and any other good that they purchase or inherit.

In an effort to end racism and sexism, the governments of all UN nations will take action against those who disobey these laws.


Please go to the UN page to approve this resolution to ensure everyone their rights! Thanks for all support.
TilEnca
18-09-2004, 23:51
Some of these might seem pedantic, but others would oppose some of the freedoms my country belives in.

1) Nobody will be restricted from a public place because of race or gender. In these public places, everyone will be allowed to use bathrooms, water fountains, swimming pools, and other facilities.

I take it it will still be permissible to segregate the bathrooms and changing rooms, but provide for both genders equally? (Ie you are not suggesting the forced implementation of uni-sex bathrooms and so on?)

Private schools or organizations which allow any gender or race must not restrict anyone's freedoms, regardless of race or gender.

Quite aside from this making no sense, there are schools that are single-gender schools. That is all boy or all girls. This ruling would make this illegal, which I find to be somewhat overstepping the boundries of the UN. In all cases there are schools for boy, and schools for girls. I am not suggesting that I would stop the education of either gender. But there is a case to be argued that having single gender schools should be allowed if the country desires it, and this could over-rule that desire.

Also where does this stand on Convents and Monastaries?

These two points could cause serious issues in my country, but aside from that I wholly support the bill and would vote for it should these issues be resolved.
Celticadia
19-09-2004, 04:55
Let me explain. The bathroom/changing room issue is simply a race issue, as obviously bathrooms/changing rooms should be segregated by gender.

The issue of private organizations was noted in the proposal. It says "Private schools or organizations which allow any gender or race" I noted that not all of them do with those words. I'm just saying a private school shouldn't be able to let people in and then treat them improperly.
Maubachia
19-09-2004, 05:49
This proposal seeks to impose co-ed militaries in every nation. In many nations with Conservative views, women do not serve in the armed forces. You may find this distasteful, but you do not have the right to tell another nation how to form its military. Restricting this clause to race might shore this up.
I might be out of bounds here, but how exactly does one define race for this provision (and others)? Scientifically, race is tough to define, as all homo sapiens are of the same species. God forbid that I seem to be suggesting a PC term (if you knew me you'd be surprised), but something more specific like ancestry, color of skin or national origin might nail it down better. Or a definition of race in the proposal. Open for discussion.
Does this also allow for multiple genders (more than two, I mean)? If this is a sneaky way to impose Gays in the Military, I applaud you, since I'm not sure what I'd be signing here. Needless to say, again, Conservative nations will not be happy.
Maubachia
19-09-2004, 05:54
Voting privileges: In my nation, felons and anyone convicted of a sexual crime (if they ever see the light of day again) forfeit their voting rights. The provision does not allow for nations to set their own standards for voting elegibility. Definitely needs a change here.
Stating in the negative might help. "Voting rights shall not be denied to any citizen on the basis of race or gender."

Hope I'm providing more help than complaints.
Celticadia
19-09-2004, 18:42
Well it also states that the person must be signed up to vote under that nation's universal laws so if your laws limit certain criminals from voting, that's fine, but the resolution just states that these rules will be for everyone and not certain races or genders.

My nation is actually a conservative nation. I just think there's no reason women shouldn't be able to serve in the military as long as they meet the requirements for every soldier. Sometimes you have to accept reform. After all, many other far more liberal resolutions have been passed. This proposal also has nothing to do with gay rights. Other resolutions have dealt with that.
TilEnca
19-09-2004, 18:59
Let me explain. The bathroom/changing room issue is simply a race issue, as obviously bathrooms/changing rooms should be segregated by gender.

The issue of private organizations was noted in the proposal. It says "Private schools or organizations which allow any gender or race" I noted that not all of them do with those words. I'm just saying a private school shouldn't be able to let people in and then treat them improperly.

Ok - I have no problem with the first one. But doesn't the second imply that a single gender school that only allows boys in can mistreat them? (I don't think that is what you mean, but it could be taken as such if you read it in a certain way!)
Denningrad
20-09-2004, 03:26
When will people learn that this resolution has no business being presented to the United Nations? This isn't a lawmaking body for a world-wide nation, and it seems people still have not learned what the United Nations should be used for.
_Myopia_
20-09-2004, 10:44
I applaud the sentiment of this proposal, but I think at least some parts of this issue have been dealt with by Komokom's "Sexes Rights Law":

The Sexes Rights Law



A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Komokom

Description: The United Nations notes with much sorrow the precedent in both distant and recent history, as well as contemporary times, where cultures dominated by one or more sexes infringe upon the rights of one or more other sexes.

The following document is intended to both relieve and resolve much of these discriminative actions, not for one sex, but for all, acting in the interests of promoting equality in all society and eliminating gender bias from said society at large.

The United Nations :

Is Deeply Disturbed By : The possibility or action of the with-holding of citizenship and ethnicity-recognition based on the sex of a individual or collective of other-ethnic origins or of origin within the borders of a nation state.

Does Formally Recognise and Declare : That the rights of all sexes in society are equal, excepting only in the conditions below and that this equality must be preserved in the interests of the social and community rights of all citizens of Nation States United Nation member states.

Thus the Nation States United Nations :

Re-affirms and Re-states : Article 4 of The Universal Bill of Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Fri Aug 8 2003.

Re-affirms and Re-states : Gay Rights, implemented by the Nation States United Nations on Sat May 3 2003.

RESOLVES :

1. The Nation States United Nations does here-by greatly encourage each member state to establish a minimum of one centre for each sex in their borders, in which people of the sex of the respective designated centre could seek shelter, medical care, and counselling for both themselves and their children or other dependants if they should find themselves without a home or shelter or reasonable support or care, due to any sexually motivated violence or discrimination from the home or work-place, or from such violence or lack of care stemming from society at large. These centres must be sensitive and cater to the needs of intersex people.

2. The Nation States United Nations calls upon all employers within member-states to abide by the following regulations :

a) Equal wages for all sexes.

b) Equal benefits for all sexes.

The above conditions are recommendations applicable within reason in that they are open to interpretation by a member states legal system in regards to each individual case, under the condition that the legal system must act in an un-biased fashion in regard to these cases.

3. The Nation States United Nations does applaud and protect the actions of any charity based organisation that is dedicated to furthering the education of any and all sexes in countries where one or more sex may not given an equal chance at attaining an education in a society.

4. Said protection in clause 3 is to be considered symbolistic in nature, and this protection of said charity organisations is conditional in that they may only provide opportunity for equality, they may not raise one sex or sexes above another or others. Such would be contrary to the spirit of the legislation and is not encouraged.

5. The Nation States United Nations recognises that gender is not just a physical manifestation but also a mental manifestation, and recognises that people of self proclaimed gender are also equally protected by the regulations and recommendations bound here in.

Votes For: 10604

Votes Against: 3942

Implemented: Sun Aug 15 2004

If you don't already, I recommend checking the list of passed resolutions at http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357572&page=1&pp=15 before writing a proposal.

Denningrad, the NationStates UN is for legislating on whatever its members choose to legislate on - it isn't like the real UN. Read the FAQ:

What's the United Nations?
The UN is the world's governing body. It proposes and votes on resolutions, which are then binding on all member nations. In other words, it's a hot-bed of political intrigue and double-dealing.

Your nation can join the UN, but it's not compulsory. As a non-member, you are unaffected by any UN decisions. So if you're happy looking after your nation and don't want to dabble in international politics, don't join up.

If you're ready to take your nation onto the world stage, though, the UN is for you.

So I'm a UN member. Now what?
The UN is your chance to mold the rest of the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will also be affected by any resolutions that pass. (You can't just obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations do.)
Celticadia
20-09-2004, 12:25
Ok - I have no problem with the first one. But doesn't the second imply that a single gender school that only allows boys in can mistreat them? (I don't think that is what you mean, but it could be taken as such if you read it in a certain way!)

No, it states that whoever is allowed into a private school must be treated fairly. That means even if only boys are there, they must not be oppressed because they are males or because of their race.
TilEnca
20-09-2004, 14:44
No, it states that whoever is allowed into a private school must be treated fairly. That means even if only boys are there, they must not be oppressed because they are males or because of their race.

But surely that would take it out of the act to end segregation. If you are saying I can still segregate boys and girls but I have to treat them fairly, doesn't that go against the whole idea of the act?

Plus if this is a proposal to end segregation then it can't allow for any segregation, including schools or organizations that allow only one gender.
_Myopia_
20-09-2004, 16:37
I believe "discrimination" would be a more appropriate word than "segregation".