NationStates Jolt Archive

I think this one pretty much speaks for itself. I saw it when browsing through the proposals just now. :headbang:

Global Hydrogen Economy

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Conninglinguists
Description: Legislation to enact a formal directive for the use of Hydrogen to replace all forms of petroleum based products worldwide

Those nations using other forms of energy production and distribution other than Petroleum based products are exempt from this legislation in so far as it effects there use of petroleum based products only. No stipulation is made here in to enforce the use of Hydrogen on those agencies, nations or persons, that seek other forms of energy production , distribution, and use besides petroleum based products.


Approvals: 39 (Cheesedomelf, Oranges Far-reaching, Coolet, Concerted Socialists, Kiwipeso, The Shaft, Mousebumples, Libruania, The Playboy Mistress, Sovietporcin, SnowballTGD, Beckfronia, New Hamster, DHomme, Safj, Melmond, Nomikia, The Adamists, Cuahutitlan, Nag Ehgoeg, Carlus, Kukurukistan, Waderow, Naiilo, Prosimania, The Hlaalu, Padmez, Gran Togaland, Rhianova, Saint Mere Eglise, Saniuqa, Pandaemoniumm, Irish Republics, Fluffnutt, Californian People, Ilconia, Arx Angelus, Kitra, Tnahsarp)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 97 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Tue Sep 14 2004

I think this one pretty much speaks for itself. I saw it when browsing through the proposals just now. :headbang:

Global Hydrogen Economy

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Conninglinguists
Description: Legislation to enact a formal directive for the use of Hydrogen to replace all forms of petroleum based products worldwide

Those nations using other forms of energy production and distribution other than Petroleum based products are exempt from this legislation in so far as it effects there use of petroleum based products only. No stipulation is made here in to enforce the use of Hydrogen on those agencies, nations or persons, that seek other forms of energy production , distribution, and use besides petroleum based products.


Approvals: 39 (Cheesedomelf, Oranges Far-reaching, Coolet, Concerted Socialists, Kiwipeso, The Shaft, Mousebumples, Libruania, The Playboy Mistress, Sovietporcin, SnowballTGD, Beckfronia, New Hamster, DHomme, Safj, Melmond, Nomikia, The Adamists, Cuahutitlan, Nag Ehgoeg, Carlus, Kukurukistan, Waderow, Naiilo, Prosimania, The Hlaalu, Padmez, Gran Togaland, Rhianova, Saint Mere Eglise, Saniuqa, Pandaemoniumm, Irish Republics, Fluffnutt, Californian People, Ilconia, Arx Angelus, Kitra, Tnahsarp)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 97 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Tue Sep 14 2004

OOC: I agree with the thread author.

IC: Official Response to Domestic Issue Proposals

My God, have you lost your mind? We have this thing called national sovereignty. It's like that "tolerance" crap on a national level.

This is a domestic issue. Do with your country as you will, but don't start trying to tell my citizens what they can and cannot do. That's what they elected me for.

A popular misconception made by uneducated environmentalists is that converting the world to a hydrogen economy will end pollution. In a sense, this is true. Automobiles are a leading cause of greenhouse emissions, second only to major industry and power plants. The problem is that creating hydrogen takes massive amounts of energy: it's an energy carrier, not an energy source. Not only would the transition to a hydrogen infrastructure cost trillions upon trillions of dollars, but the amount of power required to keep the hydrogen plants operating would require massive amounts of energy in of itself. You'd lose any benefits when nations had to build new fossil fuel plants or nuclear plants.

Please. Read this: Uses of petroleum: not just for those Evil Cars damnit! (http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/infosheets/petroleumproducts.htm)

Petroleum Products
We find petroleum products in every area of our lives. They are easily recognized in the gasoline we use to fuel our cars and the heating oil we use to warm our homes. Less obvious are the uses of petroleum-based components of plastics, medicines, food items, and a host of other products.


[...]
Nonfuel Products

Nonfuel use of petroleum is small compared with fuel use, but petroleum products account for about 89 percent of the Nation's total energy consumption for nonfuel uses. There are many nonfuel uses for petroleum, including various specialized products for use in the textile, metallurgical, electrical, and other industries. A partial list of nonfuel uses for petroleum includes:

• Solvents such as those used in paints, lacquers, and printing inks
• Lubricating oils and greases for automobile engines and other machinery
• Petroleum (or paraffin) wax used in candy making, packaging, candles, matches, and polishes
• Petrolatum (petroleum jelly) sometimes blended with paraffin wax in medical products and toiletries
• Asphalt used to pave roads and airfields, to surface canals and reservoirs, and to make roofing materials and floor coverings
• Petroleum coke used as a raw material for many carbon and graphite products, including furnace electrodes and liners, and the anodes used in the production of aluminum.
• Petroleum Feedstocks used as chemical feedstock derived from petroleum principally for the manufacture of chemicals, synthetic rubber, and a variety of plastics.

Yeah. Lets make plastic and asphalt with watermolecules.

Also there have been MULTIPLE resolutions dealing with the friggin hydrogen economy. Will it ever stop?

Will it ever stop?

Probably not. :( At least not completely.

*mocks on IRC*
You must use HYDROGEN!
MAKE THAT CANDLE BURN WITH HYDROGEN!

*mocks on IRC*
You must use HYDROGEN!
MAKE THAT CANDLE BURN WITH HYDROGEN!

How To Make A Campfire: U.N. N00b Style

1.) Gather some dead branches from the nearby wood and place them in a fire pit.

2.) Pour some hydrogen on the wood.

3.) Strike a match.

4.) Throw match onto wood.

How To Make A Campfire: U.N. N00b Style

1.) Gather some dead branches from the nearby wood and place them in a fire pit.

2.) Pour some hydrogen on the wood.

3.) Strike a match.

4.) Throw match onto wood.

OOC: BWAH! Funny.

IC: Okay, so I've liked, talked to my science guys about it, right? And I was all "Hey, this sounds cool, that means that the air will be all clean, which is better for the bunnies and trees, right?" And they we're all "Uh, no, we don't think so" So I was all "What?" And they said a bunch of stuff I didn't get, but it was a lot like what everyone else just said. And I was all "Oh, wow, so I wouldn't, like have a hair dryer, 'cause that's made of plastic. Or my pretty pink Princess phone. Or my cell phone. Or my totally awesome pink limo".

So, uh, no.

Well, think of it this way, if it became law, not that it makes any real sense there too, but, at least there is a fair chance the writers key-board will cease to exist ...

Geeez, if there was ever a time to sit back and put on John Lennon's " Imagine " , ;)

I'm assuming this didn't make quorum? Please?

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN

Last I looked, it had 39 idiots who voted for it so far.

*cries since this did end up passing after all*

*cries since this did end up passing after all*
It did?

Bob Flibble
UN Representative

Hmm.....97 approvals....with nearly 24 hrs to go - that's rather impressive if it even made quarom

*cries since this did end up passing after all*
It did?
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Passed_UN_Resolutions

I can't see it. The only hydrogen resolution I see is no. 18 "Hydrogen Powered Vehicles".

So... what's with the almighty gravedig? Can't the dead just be left in peace?

So... what's with the almighty gravedig? Can't the dead just be left in peace?

Yeah, you know it's too old when I was posting with my main nation instead of my current UN puppet Texan Hotrodders. I switched to Texan Hotrodders over a year ago.

Wow. More than a little odd.

And as much as I'd like to add on to Knoot's list of uses for petroleum (working in a refinery teaches you how useful this stuff is), I think I'll just lock this.