Tekania
11-09-2004, 23:32
Nazi Ideology
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.
Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Strong
Proposed By: Mirandsgrad
Description: The *National* Socialist ideology, as defeated in World War II and as a attempted against ocidental democracy and Eastern European Socialism should be banned from our society. "Mein Kampf" should removed from our library, swastika should be destroyed, Neo-Naxi rails should be stopped? Don't forget, forbid one ideology is row against the essence of Democracy, but is not, in this case, save Democracy?
** word corrected... (boy there are alot more)
I would like to bring up my own objections to this proposal...
The National Socialist ideology....should be banned from our society.
No offense, but there is no way to "ban" an ideology... you can illegalize it, but doing as such would be a gross violation of the principles of democracy and freedom in and of itself.
"Mein Kampf" should removed of our library
Book bannings? That sounds particularly National-Socialist to me....
swastika should be destroyed
"Swastika" is a symbol... how do you "detroy" a symbol, not to mention it's use is not just in the confines of national-socialist Nazi-ism... it has been used, either in it's clock-wise, or counter-clock-wise forms in many ancient religions...
Neo-Nazis rails should be stopped?
Context tells me this isn't a question, but a statement, and I assume, from contect, it is RALIES! and not RAILS... But anyway... whatever happened to freedom of speech? IF Nazi's or any other group wishes, and does peacably assemble, to spout whatever twisted and sick concepts they wish, do they not, as anyone else have a right to?
Don't forget, forbid one ideology is row against the essence of Democracy, but is not, in this case, save Democracy?
I'm assuming this should read, "Don't forget, forbidance of one ideology over another, is this not against the essence of democracy? But in this case, would it not save Democracy?" In any case, my contention, no it would not.... by the banning of ideologies, you establish the precedent to control and bann any other ideology that is counter to the sociological ideals of the general population... what this eventually forms is Fascism, sic. NATIONAL-SOCIALISM.... Scary enough, the Author isn't democratic, he is exibiting the ideals and characterists of a National-Socialist....
I do not believe in the editing out of ideologies, especially past failed ones, from the pervue of society... Fundamentally, knowledge of past errors, acts as a preventative to their re-occurance through ignorance... Patrick Henry once said, "I have but one lamp to guide my feet, that is the lamp of history..." to understand the principle that of knowing the past, you can alter and change the course of the future. Vehemently, my nation would oppose any attempts to internationalize the mandated editing of history, and the pervue and knowledge of the backgrounds and contents of past failed and defeated ideologies, so that our population can have the necessary understanding of these ideologies, to defeat them in the future.
I may remind the general Representation of this United Nations, and I shall also remind the Author of this... that it was through ideological control, book baning, religious symbol nad ideological symbol attacks that National-Socialism, the Nazi-ist movement gained power in the first place, and what has checked their power, has been an informed populace, understanding what these people believe, and where they come from... To remove that knowledge, removed their academic defense against the ideology taking their homes... it in fact "shelters" people from these ideologies, where they are "innocent" in ignorance of them, and therefore succeptalble to influence BY them...
In the end, I signify that this proposal, is in itself, and in word, self-defeating...
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.
Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Strong
Proposed By: Mirandsgrad
Description: The *National* Socialist ideology, as defeated in World War II and as a attempted against ocidental democracy and Eastern European Socialism should be banned from our society. "Mein Kampf" should removed from our library, swastika should be destroyed, Neo-Naxi rails should be stopped? Don't forget, forbid one ideology is row against the essence of Democracy, but is not, in this case, save Democracy?
** word corrected... (boy there are alot more)
I would like to bring up my own objections to this proposal...
The National Socialist ideology....should be banned from our society.
No offense, but there is no way to "ban" an ideology... you can illegalize it, but doing as such would be a gross violation of the principles of democracy and freedom in and of itself.
"Mein Kampf" should removed of our library
Book bannings? That sounds particularly National-Socialist to me....
swastika should be destroyed
"Swastika" is a symbol... how do you "detroy" a symbol, not to mention it's use is not just in the confines of national-socialist Nazi-ism... it has been used, either in it's clock-wise, or counter-clock-wise forms in many ancient religions...
Neo-Nazis rails should be stopped?
Context tells me this isn't a question, but a statement, and I assume, from contect, it is RALIES! and not RAILS... But anyway... whatever happened to freedom of speech? IF Nazi's or any other group wishes, and does peacably assemble, to spout whatever twisted and sick concepts they wish, do they not, as anyone else have a right to?
Don't forget, forbid one ideology is row against the essence of Democracy, but is not, in this case, save Democracy?
I'm assuming this should read, "Don't forget, forbidance of one ideology over another, is this not against the essence of democracy? But in this case, would it not save Democracy?" In any case, my contention, no it would not.... by the banning of ideologies, you establish the precedent to control and bann any other ideology that is counter to the sociological ideals of the general population... what this eventually forms is Fascism, sic. NATIONAL-SOCIALISM.... Scary enough, the Author isn't democratic, he is exibiting the ideals and characterists of a National-Socialist....
I do not believe in the editing out of ideologies, especially past failed ones, from the pervue of society... Fundamentally, knowledge of past errors, acts as a preventative to their re-occurance through ignorance... Patrick Henry once said, "I have but one lamp to guide my feet, that is the lamp of history..." to understand the principle that of knowing the past, you can alter and change the course of the future. Vehemently, my nation would oppose any attempts to internationalize the mandated editing of history, and the pervue and knowledge of the backgrounds and contents of past failed and defeated ideologies, so that our population can have the necessary understanding of these ideologies, to defeat them in the future.
I may remind the general Representation of this United Nations, and I shall also remind the Author of this... that it was through ideological control, book baning, religious symbol nad ideological symbol attacks that National-Socialism, the Nazi-ist movement gained power in the first place, and what has checked their power, has been an informed populace, understanding what these people believe, and where they come from... To remove that knowledge, removed their academic defense against the ideology taking their homes... it in fact "shelters" people from these ideologies, where they are "innocent" in ignorance of them, and therefore succeptalble to influence BY them...
In the end, I signify that this proposal, is in itself, and in word, self-defeating...