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Potential UN Proposal

Kensium
01-09-2004, 19:41
Tell me what you think.
It'll be under 'International Security' and will Be titled End of Illegal Immigration
Or something like that :sniper: jk

Noting that:
1) Illegal immigration causes a loss of jobs from citizens of a nation
2) Illegal immigrants take jobs at a lower wage, thereby negating the intentions of a minimum wage
3) Developing countries suffer from a loss of population, while developed countries suffer a rise in welfare budgets due to poor immigrants

Concerned that:
1) Rising illegal immigration will cause the loss of national identities
2) Welfare nations will no longer be able to function due to enormous welfare budgets
3) Countries will be more averse to the idea of any immigration in the future

Aware that:
1) Immigrants build the structure of developed nations (such as the United States of America)
2) All peoples should be free to emigrate to a different country (in a legal manner) according to their wants
3) A restriction of legal immigration is a transgression against personal liberties and the pursuit of happiness

Accordingly, nations of the world will agree to the following conditions, such as to preserve the identity of nations, but to allow legal immigration throughout the civilized world.

Article 1
All nations should contribute 10% of any national surplus (and a minimum of 2% of budgetary spending in times of recession) to improving police forces in said nation and to improving ‘border patrols’, so as to reduce illegal immigration into said nation.
This shall continue in all nations for no less than 20 years, or until illegal immigration has been reduced to a minimum in said nation, as determined by members of the United Nations.
This shall apply to developed and developing nations.

Article 2
Standards of living throughout the world shall be improved so as to discourage illegal immigration throughout the world. This shall be done with funds collected from all United Nations members (1% of national budget shall be required) and distributed at the discretion of the United Nations to all member nations.
However, all nations must receive some monies in a given year, including developed nations, since all nations will be required to contribute to this fund.
This proposal seems most fitting for funding of this resolution, since developed nations will be able to pay more, while undeveloped nations will be able to pay less, but require more.
However, if a nation cannot pay in a given year (or will not), said nation will be required to pay the monies at a later time. Defiance of payment for an extended time may warrant military action by the United Nations.

Article 3
Physical barriers may be constructed, but only with consent of both nations whom share a border.
However, these barriers must have a ‘checkpoint’ (a place large enough to drive 4 lanes of traffic through) at least every 50 miles or so often as not to restrict traffic between nations or restrict freedoms.
If a barrier is constructed without the consent of both nations sharing a border (unilaterally), or if said barrier does not contain the above stated number of checkpoints, this will be considered a hostile act and may be reprimanded as such.
Von Witzleben
01-09-2004, 19:47
Are you talking about the NS-UN?
HotRodia
01-09-2004, 20:00
Um...what Von Witzleben said.
Faithfull-freedom
01-09-2004, 20:05
If it is called illegal immigration, then it stays as being an illegal act that needs a reprimand to halt more of that illegal activity. Just because we dont like something that is called illegal doesn't mean we get to bypass that law for personal reasons. Illegal in the dictionary states Prohibited by law and uses the N. as An illegal immigrant. Therefor it must mean that it is illegal to become an immigrant from illegal means. No?
Conceptualists
01-09-2004, 20:23
Noting that:
1) Illegal immigration causes a loss of jobs from citizens of a nation

How?

2) Illegal immigrants take jobs at a lower wage, thereby negating the intentions of a minimum wage

Why not just get rid of the minimum wage?

3) Developing countries suffer from a loss of population, while developed countries suffer a rise in welfare budgets due to poor immigrants

Western countries also have an aging population, so really we need all the young blood we can get.

Anyway, surely since they are illegal immigrants, they don't recieve welfare/[whatever you want to call it]

Do you have a source?

Concerned that:
1) Rising illegal immigration will cause the loss of national identities

Prove.

Remember a few Western countries are largely made up of immigrants, and many have large immigrant populations without losing "National Identity."

2) Welfare nations will no longer be able to function due to enormous welfare budgets

Prove.

Also, why/how do illegal immigrants get welfare?

3) Countries will be more averse to the idea of any immigration in the future

How?

If it is called illegal immigration, then it stays as being an illegal act that needs a reprimand to halt more of that illegal activity. Just because we dont like something that is called illegal doesn't mean we get to bypass that law for personal reasons. Illegal in the dictionary states Prohibited by law and uses the N. as An illegal immigrant. Therefor it must mean that it is illegal to become an immigrant from illegal means. No?
Good point.
Frisbeeteria
01-09-2004, 20:25
It'll be under 'International Security' and will Be titled End of Illegal Immigration
Pretty sure this was intended for the NS UN. Maybe a move request is in order, Kensium. We have a separate forum for that.
TheLandThatHopeForgot
01-09-2004, 20:27
Through this proposal there going to "raise the internation standards of living" so no1 wants to immigrant. Theres no way they are going to do that :headbang:
Reltaran
01-09-2004, 20:33
As for immigrants receiving higher wages, just pay them whatever everybdoy else is paid -they'll lose their main venue of attraction to employers.
Cogitation
01-09-2004, 20:52
Article 2
Standards of living throughout the world shall be improved so as to discourage illegal immigration throughout the world. This shall be done with funds collected from all United Nations members (1% of national budget shall be required) and distributed at the discretion of the United Nations to all member nations.
However, all nations must receive some monies in a given year, including developed nations, since all nations will be required to contribute to this fund.
This proposal seems most fitting for funding of this resolution, since developed nations will be able to pay more, while undeveloped nations will be able to pay less, but require more.
However, if a nation cannot pay in a given year (or will not), said nation will be required to pay the monies at a later time. Defiance of payment for an extended time may warrant military action by the United Nations.

This section is illegal under NationStates rules as UN member nations do not have the in-game option of defying UN resolutions, or any part thereof. Thus, non-compliance is not an issue.

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