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I have, partially in commemeration of the current Olympic Games in Athens (OOC, I know - I'm back in now.), submitted the following proposal to the UN:


Olympic Games

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights (I could not find a better category to submit this under)
Strength: Significant
Submitted by: Hersfold (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=Hersfold)

THE NATIONSTATES UNITED NATIONS, in order to promote international well-being and athletic competition, shall hereby form an International Olympic Committee to organize and help host a bi-annual NationStates Olympic Games.

This committee shall be elected on the NationStates forums by nominational process. This vote shall be completed and a committee of 7 members will be elected two weeks following the passing of this proposal. This committee’s duties shall be as follows:

- To decide among a list of volunteers to host the Olympic Games
- To assist the host in the organization and completion of the games
- To organize the sign-up process for the Games.

The elected host nation's duties shall include:

- Providing adequate competition facilities, housing, security, transportation, training facilities, and neccessary anemities for the athletes participating, as well as their coaches and staff.
- Report upon the results for each event in the Games
- Do the above in a prompt and responsible manner

To prevent over-crowding of the host nation, there shall be no more than 200 UN member nations participating in each games.

An Olympic Games shall take place every 6 months, alternating between Summer and Winter Games. In each, sporting events that define that time shall be played according to the rules of their respective international organizations. The events to be played may be decided on by the committee.

The winners of each event, shall be awarded a Gold Medal unique to each games. The second place finisher(s) shall receive a Silver Medal of the same design, and the third place finisher(s) a Bronze Medal. In the event of a tie for any of these positions, 2 (or more) medals shall be awarded at that level.

These Games are to promote international well-being and sportsmanship. Before competing, athletes are to swear by this creed:
"The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph, but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered, but to have fought well."

Any athlete found cheating, either by violating the rules or by use of performance-enhancing substances, shall be disqualified and stripped of their earned medals and any set records. Any athlete found missing any required drug testing must take another, or be disqualified.


I have submitted this without posting it here because (OOC) I wanted it out before the Olympics were over, for obvious reasons. (IC)It has been co-drafted by a few members of The North Pacific, Sydia and Mikitivity. Now, I open this proposal to comment, debate, and approval. It can currently be found on Page 11 of the proposal list, along with my other two proposals.

Before we really begin, however - let me state this, out of character. These results will be role-played on the forums, as the proposal does suggest as though these games will be similar to the real ones. The IOC will not organize Scrabble or Chess tournaments, as these are not Olympic events, nor are likely to become ones. If you really want to play these, go to Yahoo or where-ever and do it yourself.

Back in character, if this passes, I will volunteer as the first nominee for the IOC.

Well, I have to say I rather likes it. Yes, yes I think I does.

* Wow, I was about a sylable from falling into Gollum-ing there, I feel dirty, ;)

Question : Will the IOC be a role-play group like that which is involved in the UNSC, etc, etc, etc ... ? How would it be formed, etc, etc, etc ...

Oh, yeah, I'll deploy a note for my delegate on our civil H.Q. :)

I believe Olympics (as well as world cups ect.) are already RPed.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World

* Rips up note before posting it.

Hmmm, still, I like the idea of a U.N. " run " Olympic games a bit ...

I believe Olympics (as well as world cups ect.) are already RPed.


If anybody can find the link to where this is being done, that would be great. It was Hersfold's thought (and one I agree with) that more nations might get involved if they were to see UN resolution on the subject.

[OOC: It would almost be cool if this sort of thing could actually be worked into NS2.]

Yes, if this is officially passed as a UN act, then it is more obvious to all nations that this exists. It sets a basic schedule for it as well - one of these games WILL occur (approx.) every 6 months - not just whenever someone feels like doing one. Also, it makes one more reason to join the UN :D.

In answer to Gollum, I mean Komokom, the IOC will be role-played. Directions for forming it are in the proposal. Do I need to make them more clear? I wasn't going to make too big a deal about it until we actually needed to - i.e., if this passed.

Wow. The Olympic Games proposal earned over 80 approvals on it's first submission! If this keeps up, the proposal is likely to reach quorum within a week or two!

Thanks to:

Nireva, Animatomia, Alexein, East Hackney, Coolet, De Silva, Southern Arcadalia, Bonadea, Paixetsante, Callistine, Drunken Butterfly, Kortepohja, Tuesday Heights, Japaica, Markodonia, Ambry, Lamoni, Geministan, Flibbleites, Farflorin, States of Stephenson, Newnationstatename, Antiamer, Sovietporcin, Gremmland, Mocsland, The Bruce, Marque Vous, Acadamenias, Captainstown, Nikovakia, Xepillion, Gandalf the Wise, Lost _City_Of_Atlantis, Real Freedonia, Leaky Cauldron, Workers Communes, James Carville, Chaos Empires, Xerxes855, Kiwipeso, Dyne of the Blue Storm, Desert Lands, Jovianica, Sabatonia, New Christonia, Leviathen, Tri-Hylians, Teezz, Mcmoo, Phuckneckville, Cornflake Gremlins, Cyelas, Hungry Hungry Hobos, Oranje-Nassau, Evertonialand, Maxitron, Ritwick, Ozalia, Connersonia, Barhead, Brunelian BG advocates, Orioni, Twickers, Boxtopia, Waderow, Infinite Hoarding, Candia, UpwardThrust, Mike Tedesco, Thine Hedge, Peaonusahl, Vehkataipale, C R Vasco da Gama, Dizziness, Faroukh, People and Happiness, Barney Horn, Montreve, and Chris is Cool Land

All of these Delegates approved the proposal. Please, if you are one of these people, re-approve this when it gets re-submitted tommorrow! And if you are not, please approve it this time! Thanks again to those above and to those who approve it in the future!

Yes, if this is officially passed as a UN act, then it is more obvious to all nations that this exists. It sets a basic schedule for it as well - one of these games WILL occur (approx.) every 6 months - not just whenever someone feels like doing one. Also, it makes one more reason to join the UN :D.

So non-UN nations are to be dismissed again..!?

Not a surprise at all, coming from this crowd.

So much for "humanity", which is now apparently being defined as only persons inhabiting UN member "nations".

Yet another example of the arrogance and powermadness of the Great Mommy-State UN.

May your games be grand..!


-Keiki'olu I'ake'oke'o
Current "Big-Diggah" and "Chief Head-Whompah"

"May prosperity and freedom from silly rules be your destiny..!"

So non-UN nations are to be dismissed again..!?

Yet another example of the arrogance and powermadness of the Great Mommy-State UN.


There is only one reference currently in the proposal restricting the games to UN members:


To prevent over-crowding of the host nation, there shall be no more than 200 UN member nations participating in each games.

Maybe if it doesn't pass, we could change that to 200 nations?

Cadwallader will gladly support the Draft Resolution so long as the following events are included in any Olympiad to be held in the future:

-Caber, hammer, sheaf, and stone toss
-Buzkashi (national sport of Afghanistan; a variation on polo, involving a decapitated goat carcass)
-American-style football
-Rugby

We look forward to matching our athletes against international competition.

What is added is up to the committee - however the Hammer Throw and Rugby do look like strong candidates. Thanks for your support!

Markodonia will gladly support the motion to include Buzkashi in the games, should they be sucessfully established :D

I'd ask my delegate to support it if it remained U.N. member only. With its initial support and with co-ordinated telegram working I'd say it would be fairly easy to get it up in a short manner of time for general vote.

I'd ask my delegate to support it if it remained U.N. member only. With its initial support and with co-ordinated telegram working I'd say it would be fairly easy to get it up in a short manner of time for general vote.

I see reasons for both: allowing all nations or just UN members:

- The reason I see we should open it up is that might generate more interest in the games and the UN.

- The reason I see we shouldn't open it up is plenty of nations use puppets to better their position, and I'd hate to see puppets being abused in the games. Though this is likely to be a very small number of nations doing this.

What other justifications am I missing? :)

The main one is that this resolution only applies to UN members, and therefore non-members technically can't join anyway.

The main reason, however, is the one you already stated. Puppets make it too easy for a nation to enter the games two, three, or fifty times. If there were a way to prevent that from happening, then I would say, make it open to all. But that is not possible, not without checking e-mails and IP addresses, and that would involve having a mod or admin abuse their powers. Not even the clause on cheating would be enough, because if the nations never say anything, then who's to know that the top 20 nations were all owned by the same person? All we need is a few people who cheat, and the game is runied for everyone.

So, the games will have to remain UN member only.

If a non-UN nation (let's say Nonunia) wishes to participate then all they need do is create a single puppet to represent them (say Nonunia Olympic Team) once it has joined the UN.

I believe Frisbeeteria once established a region for this purpose...?

we dont support this because we dont have any idea how we would be able to RP it!!!

I believe Frisbeeteria once established a region for this purpose...?
We did.

Nationstates Olympics Region was established by my now-deceased puppet Olympic Ideal, and a GamePlay topic was started inviting nations to send a puppet to the region for planning. I handed the whole thing over to the proposer of the previous Olympic proposal to get it set up. I checked back a few times, but nobody seemed to be interested in doing the actual work, and like Draganovia none of us had any idea how to roleplay such a thing.

The region is long gone, as are the founding nations, and I couldn't dredge up the topic. Anyone wants to go for it, you have my blessing (and sympathy).

we dont support this because we dont have any idea how we would be able to RP it!!!

To RP it, we could "draft" existing real-world athletes. We'd have points for bidding on them based on our economy, population, and apathy level (lower means more points). Then any time they compete, they do so with our government's flag at their side.

I have some more complicated ideas for NS2, as I'd love to see nations that are and aren't UN members have the option of being an Olympic Participant. Daily issues could include "Athletics" and "Fitness" in addition to the other categories. When we create our nations, we could pick a "national past-time" which would give our nation a better likely at domination in that sporting category. The real olympics divides the events into many categories.

For example, being a mountainous nation, the CCSM has great white water courses, so while CCSM might suck at things like volleyball and long distance running, like like RL Slovakia, CCSM might sport some of the worlds best kayakers!

It would be a fun thing to spend 6 months training your country for either a summer or winter NS Games. :) I have a much longer plan that I'll try and toss in the NS2 forum later.

To RP it, we could "draft" existing real-world athletes. We'd have points for bidding on them based on our economy, population, and apathy level (lower means more points). Then any time they compete, they do so with our government's flag at their side.

I have some more complicated ideas for NS2, as I'd love to see nations that are and aren't UN members have the option of being an Olympic Participant. Daily issues could include "Athletics" and "Fitness" in addition to the other categories. When we create our nations, we could pick a "national past-time" which would give our nation a better likely at domination in that sporting category. The real olympics divides the events into many categories.

For example, being a mountainous nation, the CCSM has great white water courses, so while CCSM might suck at things like volleyball and long distance running, like like RL Slovakia, CCSM might sport some of the worlds best kayakers!

It would be a fun thing to spend 6 months training your country for either a summer or winter NS Games. :) I have a much longer plan that I'll try and toss in the NS2 forum later.

it would be sooooooooo hard to RP a running race or a swim meet or a soccer game or anything like that because it would be hard to do without accidently "god moding" and piss off someone.

it would be sooooooooo hard to RP a running race or a swim meet or a soccer game or anything like that because it would be hard to do without accidently "god moding" and piss off someone.

You are right. That is why I think for short-term "purchasing" real players would put everyone at an even scale.

I just finished my post in NS2 about future games.

Hmm... Would you mind if I nominated you for a post in the IOC, Mik? It sounds like you have a better idea of how to run this than I do at the moment...

I've endorsed this proposal, as it's well-worded, and should bring an interesting dimension to the world should it pass.

Thank you, Tuesday.

BTW - I forgot to mention in my last post - It may be considered as jumping the gun, but if anyone would like to volunteer themselves for positions in the IOC, or nominate others, please do so. Please note, however, that nominations must be accepted by the nominee - no one who does not wish to be in the IOC will be.

So far, I am the only canidate for the IOC, however, there is a yet-to-be-accepted nomination for Mikitivity. We need at least 7 candidates at some point. In the event that we get more than that number, I will post a separate topic which will contain a poll. The top 7 elected members after a period of time will be inducted into the IOC.

Hmm... Would you mind if I nominated you for a post in the IOC, Mik? It sounds like you have a better idea of how to run this than I do at the moment...

Well, if it passes, I'd serve, but only on the condition that I'm not sitting in a seat on the committee of somebody else who wants to organize an international games. :) I think once this proposal reaches resolution status that a number of nations will be interested in the games.

I certainly am looking forward to my government sending our kayakers to the summer games, and our women's ice hockey is certainly a force to be feared by all. There is nothing worse than a group of blue and black garbbed Klatuu and Barada with big heavy sticks in hand and sharp knives tied to their feet!

So we now have two candidates... any more?

The proposal is now at 83 approvals, past where it was when I last checked on it's previous submission - and we still have two days left.

Delegates - the proposal is currently on page 3 of the list! Please look it over and approve it! We only need about 50 more!

We only need 20 more approvals for this to reach quorum! Delegates, please check page 1 of the list here (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/-1/page=UN_proposal/start=2) to approve it! This is the final day "Olympic Games" will be in circulation - after this, it must be re-submitted once more, and re-earn all of it's approvals.


Scratch that... IT HAS REACHED QUORUM!

I have made a new topic for this proposal here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showtopic.php?t=352120), so that we don't have to deal with all the clutter of this one.