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Let's make this proposal work folks!

I need your feedback on how we can do so.

Proposal Text:

I have recently recieved disturbing news in my nation about the rise in youth gambling. I have seen it is a problem for other nations as well.

Therefore, the Kingdom of Tibetania;

OBSERVING that youth gambling is a serious threat to the societies of UN member nations,

OBSERVING the wide scope of this social epidemic,

Proposes that the legal age to gamble in any casino/gambling establishment within any UN member nation be set to 21 years of age.

I'm sorry but we are not in favour of The UN dictating an age of majority.

You do not have our support.

Lady Desdemona of Merwell,
Senior UN representative,
The Black New World

It is the belife of the government of the Grand Dysreich that this is a restriction on the civil libities of our people and we cannot endorse such a measure.

Why was the age of 21 chosen what even occours at such an age that people can now gamble safly?

Why was the age of 21 chosen what even occours at such an age that people can now gamble safly?

The magical fairy of maturity comes to visit and gives you unlimited knowledge and the right kind of morals.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World

The relationship between maturity and age varies greatly between societies, so what _Myopia_'s 16 year-olds are usually responsible enough to be allowed to do might need to have an age limit of 21 in Tibetania. Plus what about those nations RPing that their citizens aren't human? Whatever species they RP will probably age at different rates to humans.

Thank you Myopia for responding to my inquiries is a mature and respectful tone. It is obvious who possesses good character here and who lacks it.

I see your point, a very good one that I had not considered, and ask your help in a solution.

Perhaps instead of the (human) age of twenty one, perhaps it could say "a mature age of majority according to one's race". In this way, humans will obviously have to regard that as about 18, and other species can accomodate.

Ab-shalom and informal greetings;

As, in our country, getting up in the morning and going outside can be a gamble, our nations official position is one of complete acceptance of formal gambling. Our Sultan, of course, receives his share of income from any and all such events or activities, and proper licenses must be applied for as a sign of respect to our Sultan, but otherwise anything from floating crap games to full scale casinos are completely in the norm for our people and our country.

Our age of consent is thirteen, with there being occasionally some who wish to take the test of maturity before then. A few succeed and are then named adults - the youngest was nine. Therefore, our nations beliefs in the age of consent and majority are far different then others. Does this mean a "racial" order would have our support? In no way, for it is impossible to determine a "racial" age of majority.

We point out children who become able to have children as young as twelve; a few chemical changes, and this could be reduced far more.

We would therefore suggest the limitation of such a proposal be placed at each nations age of majority, leaving it to the individual nation to determine when one becomes an adult in each individual nation's eyes. Else, you will be hard pressed to configure a "fair" age as any will be debated hotly.

Namaste,
Drayaa Kiilgalen
Humble Servant of the Grand Vizier,
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva

The Armed Republic Of Draganovia strongly supports original proposal.

New Vinnland would like to enquire as to what damage, exactly, is being caused by this 'youth gambling'.

New Vinnland also believes that if this is indeed a matter of concern, the focus of attention should be directed at parental responsibility rather than the gambling industry itself. (for the record, age restriction for gambling in New Vinnland is 18, less with parental consent and the company thereof).

Any resolutions restricting gambling would damage New Vinnland's casino business, thus threatening it's economy. Therefore, New Vinnland declines its support of this proposal.

Thank you Myopia for responding to my inquiries is a mature and respectful tone. It is obvious who possesses good character here and who lacks it.

I see your point, a very good one that I had not considered, and ask your help in a solution.

Perhaps instead of the (human) age of twenty one, perhaps it could say "a mature age of majority according to one's race". In this way, humans will obviously have to regard that as about 18, and other species can accomodate.

It shouldn't be "race" it should be "species" - just to be clear that nobody is advocating racist solutions - and you still aren't allowing for societal differences. This is clearly something which would better be left up to individual societies - the best thing you could do if you still want to make a proposal on this is to state the UN's official position - e.g. the operative clauses in such a proposal could read "URGES that gambling be restricted to mature citizens", thus allowing each nation to respond with their own concept of what is mature enough, and allowing nations to ignore it if they wish (however, using a word as strong as "URGES" rather than "RECOMMENDS" places pressure on nations not to ignore the UN's position on the issue).