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Description: Whereas children should be allowed to develop at a reasonable pace, and not be exposed to sexual situations until they come of age, and whereas many nations have taken it upon themselves in recent years to push sexuality onto children, let it be hereby resovled that unvoluntary sexual education is to be made illegal in all member nations, and that the sale of Pornography, and other sexual parafernalia be strictly prohibited to minors. Additionally, be it resolved that showing a minor anything containing substantial sexual content without the full knowledge and consent of their legal guardian shall be a Felony in all member nations.

This resolution seeks to protect children, and parental rights.

Some of this I agree with 100%. Others I don't.

My main observation is that if done correctly, sexual education has many benefits...this proposal would appear to work against that.

All this proposal does is stop forced sex-ed. It assures the rights of a child to choose, and assures that parents retain the right to raise their own children.

It is immoral to force a business to not sell its product to anyone. A business, however,can rightfully choose who it wishes to sell, or not sell, its products to. Sexual education is the job of good parenting, not government censorship or businesses. Any free nation should oppose this ban.

1. Define "sexual situations".
2. What's to stop a kid picking up a porn magazine that someone left lying around? Or from seeing pin-up girls on an office wall? I may not agree with either, but people are free to read/see them. We already have a resolution on paedophilia.
3. Define "forced sex-ed". Involuntarily seeing someone naked could be defined forced sex-ed.

It's authoritarian and pretty much unenforcable. If this ever came to the floor, I'd vote against.

All this proposal does is stop forced sex-ed. It assures the rights of a child to choose, and assures that parents retain the right to raise their own children.
We support sexual education at a young age, hence we will not support a proposal that seeks to trap our citizens in a cage of ignorance.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN

It is immoral to force a business to not sell its product to anyone.
Nonsense. On stilts.

Mathieu Vergniaud
Deputy Speaker to the UN

Why should we make it illeagal for children to view things of a sexual nature? Sex is a natural thing, and those children wouldn't be alive if their parents hadn't engaged in it. I feel we should be heading in the opposite direction of your proposal, and instead allow children to freely view things of a sexual nature.

Would anyone back a proposal making sex ed compulsory, based on the hugely positive effects it has been observed to have?

Or what about a "banning uptight attitudes about sex that make people feel guilty about natural things"?

:-D

Or, more to the point, why should the UN legislate on morality, when it's obvious that even this small collection of nations have differing opinions? Is there any international harm to children having a different style of sexual education than others? This is nothing more than another nation's attempt to make the rest of the world follow their lead when both sides of the fence are acceptable and justifiable in their own ways.

*Gregor Re stands and addresses the assembly*
I tend to agree with the rest of the assembly on this issue, let the individual governments decide on this issue, not the United Nations. Stopping the most odd and disturbing group of sexual offenders was good, but the nation of Chilan Kahn will not support something that will reduce civil liberties simply because it is deemed "immoral" by a third party source.

Mr Hillaker again hits the nail on the head.

this would go against the freedom of information act, i do not support such a resolution.

Anybody who has been a child will know that children will find out about sex, if not through open, honest sex education then through distorted playground gossip that perpetuates any number of myths and false judgements about sex. Keeping sex out of the classroom ensures that it will be learnt only from the gutter. You don't protect children from sex by doing this; you only present it as something to be ashamed of.

I do not believe that a parent has the right to complete authority over what their child should learn. If a parent wants to teach their child to hate people of other races, it is only right that a good education system should oppose this; if they want their child to believe that the stork brings babies until they're 18, the damage is no less. Knowledge and truth cannot harm children; concealment and mystery can.

All too often, parents use children to serve the interests of the parent, and pretend to themselves it is concern for the child; this can manifest in shocking and extreme conditions, but far more often it is more subtle.

this would go against the freedom of information act
Just searched for that act in our Passed Resolutions (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/-1/page=UN_past_resolutions) list and found no mention of it.

If you would, please confine your discussions here with what happens in THIS body, not some irrelevant outside organization. Thanks.

The People`s Republic of Romanian States disagrees with this movement, children should be sexually educated when they hit 14 years of life.
But we support the effort of restrictiong the selling of erotic content to minors of 18 years old, those accused of this crime will be severely punished :sniper: Also channels should provide a pornographic parent controlling device.

(Do i talk legal or what ;) )

Also channels should provide a pornographic parent controlling device.

(Do i talk legal or what ;) )
One of the best examples of legalese I have ever seen. What on Earth is that supposed to mean?

Just searched for that act in our Passed Resolutions (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/-1/page=UN_past_resolutions) list and found no mention of it.

If you would, please confine your discussions here with what happens in THIS body, not some irrelevant outside organization. Thanks.

let me rephrase it then "that would go against my ideas about the freedom of information, so i do not vote in favour"

Nevermoore shall decide what is good for its children and what is bad for them. Not you!

"Also channels should provide a pornographic parent controlling device."

One of the best examples of legalese I have ever seen. What on Earth is that supposed to mean?

A pornographic device which controls parents?

Description: Whereas children should be allowed to develop at a reasonable pace, and not be exposed to sexual situations until they come of age,

" sexual situations " hmmm, some-what a lack of clarity there.

In fact, come of age is not very specific either.

and whereas many nations have taken it upon themselves in recent years to push sexuality onto children,

* Watches government pan-cake children with giant Sex-Ed text books.

let it be hereby resovled that unvoluntary sexual education is to be made illegal in all member nations,

* Involuntary rather then " un ". Oh, and I personally disagree with this clause. I don't see why we must cotton wrap kids from something so basic as sexual education, or ( lordy no ) leave it up to the parents ...

and that the sale of Pornography, and other sexual parafernalia be strictly prohibited to minors.

I also have a problem with this clause, in that I disagree with the wording, as it could possibly be interpreted as prohibiting the sale strictly to children, making them the only legal purchasers ... This requires clearing up.

Additionally, be it resolved that showing a minor anything containing substantial sexual content without the full knowledge and consent of their legal guardian shall be a Felony in all member nations.

Yeah, and thats going to be fun to enfore when it comes to image transmition over the internet, eh ?

This resolution seeks to protect children, and parental rights.

Ignoring that many parents are them-selves sexually retarded by moralistic values ...

* Digs up a quote ( shuffle of documents, )

"Now, if groups like Moral Majority have their way, there won't be any sex education at school, and our kids will be the dumbest in the world when it comes to sex.... But our parents are sexually retarded too.... Fear and primitive morals are creating a sexual pressure-cooker in this country and soon the top will blow.... Only in the U.S. do we find children drawing a picture of a baby coming from the clouds or from under a cabbage leaf." - Dr. Floyd Martinson.

Sorry but I don't think that parents are always qualified to decide when knowledge is in the best interest of a child. Some parents try to keep children sexually ignorant by only discussing the option of abstinence, and their children develop STDs during acts of rebellion. It is simply negligent for a nation to have ignorant citizens exposing themselves in large numbers to any kind of danger. Granted, sex must be regulated, but children must have the knowledge to stay safe.

Sex-ed with the proper tools and materials is very good for children because it lets them know the risk and enpowers them to be able to make the right choice.

A pornographic device which controls parents?

" Honey, we're going to need more batteries for the ... flash-light ... "

I support sex-ed at young age...but i dont support banning of porn materials since you couldnt just possibly banned any porn materials, even if you did wouldnt people at blackmarket still sell it and took advantage of this law too and it's againts the right of people to read them. No matter how hard you try to ban them in the end they will still buy them and hid them under their bed.The porn materials are just like illegal vcd we bought and watched everyday, it is scattered everywhere around this world. Besides, if you want to ban porn materials for children under age, you have to first create a law to ban this material to adult because adult may read the books and leave them around the city...curious children will approach the book and read them. But, the sex ed is impt for children to know the bad things of having sex and what could be the consequences.


So, my conclusion is for you to rethink this proposal and re-create them.

*Robert Anderson, newly appointed representative to the United Nations for the Kingdom of Traxtonia steps up to the microphone*
*reads the proposed points*

many nations have taken it upon themselves in recent years to push sexuality onto children

let it be hereby resovled that unvoluntary sexual education is to be made illegal in all member nations

the sale of Pornography, and other sexual parafernalia be strictly prohibited to minors.

showing a minor anything containing substantial sexual content without the full knowledge and consent of their legal guardian shall be a Felony in all member nations.

Esteemed delegates of the United Nations, I stand firm with Chilan Kahn and others on this issue. This proposal should definitely not be introduced into the general assembly for voting. It seems to be a loosely put together collage of thought. What proof of nations "pushing sexuality onto children" is there? Where is the example? Are we talking about governmentally regulated television shows portraying sexual situations and a child being at home to watch it at 9pm? Or are senators taking pre-schoolers on a field trip to the local pornography store? While we agree that pornography should not be sold to minors, we cannot support this proposal as a whole. We recommend an ammendment to this proposal to be submitted to this delegation for re-consideration.

Robert Anderson
Traxtonian representative to the U.N.
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Description: Whereas children should be allowed to develop at a reasonable pace, and not be exposed to sexual situations until they come of age, and whereas many nations have taken it upon themselves in recent years to push sexuality onto children, let it be hereby resovled that unvoluntary sexual education is to be made illegal in all member nations, and that the sale of Pornography, and other sexual parafernalia be strictly prohibited to minors. Additionally, be it resolved that showing a minor anything containing substantial sexual content without the full knowledge and consent of their legal guardian shall be a Felony in all member nations.

This resolution seeks to protect children, and parental rights.

Bravo! You have my vote.

All the objections I would make to this have already been made, most notably by Rehochipe. You do not and never will have my vote.