NationStates Jolt Archive


Free Healthcare and Malpractice Reform Proposals

Manea
31-07-2004, 04:11
My fellow UN members, I, the president of Manea, am writing to you today to hopefully gain your support for a pair of proposals currently in the UN approval process so that they can become a part of nationstates. I will reproduce both of them so that you can view them and if you have any questions feel free to post them here or telegram my nation. I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

Medical Insurance for All
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: Manea Description: SEEING as the basic needs of the people are not being met due to a lack of health insurance for all peoples and also

SEEING that as a result of the greed of private corporations many people are being overcharged for a basic necessity to maintain one's good health (health insurance) and also

SEEING that many small buisnesses are being increasingly burdened with supplying their employees with this basic need as a result of the rising costs of health insurance, thus burdening the overall global economy as a whole and finally

SEEING that all people deserve a basic right to have access to the best health care available in the event of a life-threatening illness or injury, regardless of economic background, race, gender, or social standing,

The UN should see it fit to implement a system which would provide free medical insurance to all the citizens of the world. This would serve to better society as a whole and is the first part of a two-part proposal to reform the medical industry to make our world a much healthier place and to better the living standards of all the citizens of nationstates.





Approvals: 28 (Xerxes855, True-wisdom, Coolet, Kezrai, Flibbleites, Nireva, Yaddaya, Sausage-Recta, Kiwipeso, Tramuntana, Tuesday Heights, Spaz Land, Japaica, Ex-soviet nations, Boohbahstahn, Celezia, Mauroria, FoxTopia, Markodonia, EcoVille, Krygillia, Gierach, Drunken Butterfly, East Fiji, Harry Fung, Millionz Knives, Doctors and Lawyers, Geministan)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 107 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Jul 31 2004



Medical Malpractice Reform
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.
Category: Moral Decency Strength: Significant Proposed by: Manea Description: RECOGNIZING that many people seek civil monetary rewards for proported damages done to them by doctors and

RECOGNIZING that as a result of rising malpractice suit rates that insurance companies are constantly raising malpractice insurance rates and also

RECOGNIZING that because of this many of these doctors are being forced out of buisness due to this excessive and constant increase in the cost of said malpractice insurance and also

RECOGNIZING that many people are now simply looking for a way to make a quick dollar at the expense of the medical industry and finally

RECOGNIZING that as a result of unlimited monetary rewards in civil courts the health of the people of the world as a whole suffers because fewer talented individuals are choosing to enter the medical profession because they cannot make the living that they can in other professions

The UN should see it fit to implement a reasonable limit on all monetary rewards in malpractice suits so as to aid the vital health industry and stop the constantly rising cost of practicing medicine throughout the world. This would serve to aid the ailing health industry and allow it to better serve the many peoples of our world for the greater good of society as a whole. For without human health, why does anything else matter?

Approvals: 25 (Aleia, Gazoslovakia, Coolet, Flibbleites, Nireva, Yaddaya, Kiwipeso, Kakistos, Tuesday Heights, Spaz Land, Tripolis, South Puyallup, Kezrai, Emeraldsian, Schrandtopia, Boohbahstahn, Rathland, Humanitty, UN Delegate of APA, Sudaea, Southern Arcadalia, East Fiji, Blanchester, Millionz Knives, Brunelian BG advocates)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 110 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Jul 31 2004

As you can see I already have some support for these proposals, but I need much more. I intend to keep submitting these proposals until I can force them through the approval process. I hope that you will all support these reforms so that we can help make nationstates a better place.
Kelssek
31-07-2004, 04:46
Personally, I believe that medical malpractice is an overblown issue which has just been sensationalised. Granted, some countries have problems with it, but they are in the minority, and this is more suited as a daily issue rather than a UN resolution.

Additonally, if a doctor really hurts a patient by his negligence, why should he be protected? If he kills someone from malpractice, that's his problem and the problem of his insurance company, not the problem of the legal system. And in many cases the damages really are justified because of the irreparable damage often caused by medical malpractice. If they really are excessive, they can also be appealed.
Komokom
31-07-2004, 04:56
The Rep of Komokom develops a facial tick the size of a small 3rd world nation.
My fellow UN members, I, the president of Manea, am writing to you today to hopefully gain your support for a pair of proposals currently in the UN approval process so that they can become a part of nationstates. I will reproduce both of them so that you can view them and if you have any questions feel free to post them here or telegram my nation. I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

Medical Insurance for All
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: Manea Description: SEEING as the basic needs of the people are not being met due to a lack of health insurance for all peoples and also

SEEING that as a result of the greed of private corporations many people are being overcharged for a basic necessity to maintain one's good health (health insurance) and also

SEEING that many small buisnesses are being increasingly burdened with supplying their employees with this basic need as a result of the rising costs of health insurance, thus burdening the overall global economy as a whole and finally

SEEING that all people deserve a basic right to have access to the best health care available in the event of a life-threatening illness or injury, regardless of economic background, race, gender, or social standing,

The UN should see it fit to implement a system which would provide free medical insurance to all the citizens of the world. This would serve to better society as a whole and is the first part of a two-part proposal to reform the medical industry to make our world a much healthier place and to better the living standards of all the citizens of nationstates.

Approvals: 28 (Xerxes855, True-wisdom, Coolet, Kezrai, Flibbleites, Nireva, Yaddaya, Sausage-Recta, Kiwipeso, Tramuntana, Tuesday Heights, Spaz Land, Japaica, Ex-soviet nations, Boohbahstahn, Celezia, Mauroria, FoxTopia, Markodonia, EcoVille, Krygillia, Gierach, Drunken Butterfly, East Fiji, Harry Fung, Millionz Knives, Doctors and Lawyers, Geministan)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 107 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Jul 31 2004
What the hell is the go with " free health - care " lately ... ? ? ?

( cough, clears throat ... )

! SHA - BAM !

Familiar ?
#48: Give Us Healthcare or Give Us Death! [Dictator Amanda; ed:Reploid Productions]

The Issue
A large group of @@NAME@@'s uninsured citizens have petitioned the government to provide a universal healthcare system, citing the poor health of many low and middle-class workers. Some of the more vocal of them are threatening violence if something isn't done.

The Debate
1. "A universal healthcare system would provide everyone with the same quality healthcare the more wealthy and well-insured currently receive," says recently laid-off citizen and civil rights activist @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Sure, taxes would probably have to increase a bit. But isn't it worth it to provide our lower-class citizens with the same opportunities the upper-class citizens have?"

2. "Are you all INSANE? This will ruin the health insurance business and drive up unemployment rates," argues @@RANDOMNAME@@, head of the largest insurance provider in @@NAME@@. "If everyone working for their health insurance could suddenly get it free, there would be fewer jobs filled. It would get worse for everyone involved. The government should investigate the motives of these troublemaking 'protestors', instead!"

3. "Why do we have to choose either radical option?" says your Secretary of Health, @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Couldn't we just provide limited basic healthcare for our citizens and have major operations covered by private health insurance? It would be more affordable and the poor would suffer less than they do under the current system."
= There is already a national issue for free health care or not, showing us there is a fair precedent for nations deciding this on their own, allowing governments to do just that, govern.

Next,
Medical Malpractice Reform
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.
Category: Moral Decency Strength: Significant Proposed by: Manea Description: RECOGNIZING that many people seek civil monetary rewards for proported damages done to them by doctors and

RECOGNIZING that as a result of rising malpractice suit rates that insurance companies are constantly raising malpractice insurance rates and also

RECOGNIZING that because of this many of these doctors are being forced out of buisness due to this excessive and constant increase in the cost of said malpractice insurance and also

RECOGNIZING that many people are now simply looking for a way to make a quick dollar at the expense of the medical industry and finally

RECOGNIZING that as a result of unlimited monetary rewards in civil courts the health of the people of the world as a whole suffers because fewer talented individuals are choosing to enter the medical profession because they cannot make the living that they can in other professions

The UN should see it fit to implement a reasonable limit on all monetary rewards in malpractice suits so as to aid the vital health industry and stop the constantly rising cost of practicing medicine throughout the world. This would serve to aid the ailing health industry and allow it to better serve the many peoples of our world for the greater good of society as a whole. For without human health, why does anything else matter?

Approvals: 25 (Aleia, Gazoslovakia, Coolet, Flibbleites, Nireva, Yaddaya, Kiwipeso, Kakistos, Tuesday Heights, Spaz Land, Tripolis, South Puyallup, Kezrai, Emeraldsian, Schrandtopia, Boohbahstahn, Rathland, Humanitty, UN Delegate of APA, Sudaea, Southern Arcadalia, East Fiji, Blanchester, Millionz Knives, Brunelian BG advocates)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 110 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Jul 31 2004
And again,

! SHA - BAM !

" Here comes another one ... "
#117: Stop The Suits, Say Surgeons [Ravenspire; ed:Sirocco]

The Issue
Recently, medical insurance premiums across the nation have been skyrocketing following several highly-publicised medical-malpractice lawsuits, making it even costlier than ever to get treatment. Doctors are asking the government to step in.

The Debate
1. "These lawsuits are driving up the price of medical insurance," complains Dr. @@RANDOMNAME@@. "I'm losing customers - patients, I mean - and it's becoming increasingly difficult for doctors like me to do our jobs without worrying about being bankrupted by some kid who didn't like the hospital food. Everyone makes mistakes. Look at politicians, they make them all the time and do they get fired? No. We must outlaw the medical-malpractice lawsuits undermining our healthcare system!"

2. "All that these doctors are interested in is saving their own necks," says @@RANDOMNAME@@, CEO of 'I Can't Believe It's A Law Firm!'. "They were negligent in the course of their work and are unwilling to pay the price. I mean, how do you perform a heart transplant on the wrong guy unless you're not paying attention? I for one think that our citizens deserve better from the healthcare service, and if doctors cause damage, they should pay for it. It's that simple. If some decent doctors get caught up in it, then it's surely their own fault for not being careful enough?"

3. "The problem is capitalism," insists @@RANDOMNAME@@, while trying to burn a @@CURRENCY@@ with a lighter. "The doctors are only trying to help their patients, and those class traitors at the insurance industry are only trying to make a profit out of people's misery on those rare occasions when things go wrong. I say we outlaw the insurance industry and then the good doctors will be safe while the bad ones go out of business. Everyone wins! Apart from the insurance people, I guess."

4. "The problem certainly is capitalism," says @@RANDOMNAME@@, a famed socialist. "But outlawing the insurance industry will not solve the main problem: the healthcare system itself! It's disgusting! I've seen paramedics check wallets before injuries! We must introduce a national health service and put some healthy investment into medical colleges, hospitals, and the likes. Then we'll have an over-abundance of competent doctors! The insurance industry won't be able to raise a finger to it and the citizens won't have to pay for treatment. Except through tax, of course."

Well, I think that just about sums it up. It seems you main problem is that there are already national issues which handle these problems and give options as how to those running the country should handle them, if at all. Suffice to say, making proposals and eventually resolutions out of these issues goes part way to defeat the point of the U.N. in the first place.

As you can see I already have some support for these proposals, but I need much more. I intend to keep submitting these proposals until I can force them through the approval process. I hope that you will all support these reforms so that we can help make nationstates a better place.

Hmmm ... No. and I don't think these particular ones will make it, either.

Oh, and before I forget, I saw quite a few holes in these proposals, the easiest to point out being the national issues already in place in the game, but if requested I can trawl through and point them out if you wish.

* Returns to stalk the U.N. Forum ...

" Have A Nice Day ( Unless you have other plans ) ... " :D
Manea
31-07-2004, 05:45
Well then... seeing as I haven't received an issue in relevance to health care as of yet, I just thought it would be a good thing to bring up. But you know, one of my reasons for proposing the health care item has to do with the state of the economy. I know for a fact that the world economy would benefit from such a proposal being passed for the simple fact that small buisnesses would no longer be required to pick up the tab on the health insurance issue, which would allow them to invest that money in other, more profitable ventures. Just thought I'd comment on that... by the way, thanks for mentioning that there are already issues for the health care stuff, I don't like going through the issues list because I don't want to spoil them when I get them, I like a surprise issue to pop up now and then... Although I do have another proposal which I have thought of that I'm pretty sure has no issue to match it... I have to get some information on it first and then I'll have a new proposal to draft here... thanks anyways!
Manea
31-07-2004, 05:50
Personally, I believe that medical malpractice is an overblown issue which has just been sensationalised. Granted, some countries have problems with it, but they are in the minority, and this is more suited as a daily issue rather than a UN resolution.

Additonally, if a doctor really hurts a patient by his negligence, why should he be protected? If he kills someone from malpractice, that's his problem and the problem of his insurance company, not the problem of the legal system. And in many cases the damages really are justified because of the irreparable damage often caused by medical malpractice. If they really are excessive, they can also be appealed.

Yes, they should be punished, I'm not saying that they shouldn't. But the problem lies not in the punishment, but the unlimited amount of money that can be awarded in these trials. Because of this, doctors are persuaded away from many areas so that they can make more money and many talented individuals do not go into the healthcare field because they cannot make the money that they can in other fields. That is all, but thanks for the input!
Reddbeard
31-07-2004, 05:52
As absolute ruler of my tiny little world, I say let the witch doctors take care of the sick.
Xerxes855
31-07-2004, 06:02
I support the 1st (I was the 1st to support, btw) but not the 2nd resolution. The Democratic Republic of Xerxes855 already has a socialized system of medicine, and believes that all people deserve good medical coverage, regardless of income.

I do not support the 2nd resolution because I believe that in some cases the victim does deserve heavy compensation. The problem isn't that people can get lots of money, the problem is that much of the time people get more money then they should. More people get millions of dollars from malpractice then deserve it.
Komokom
31-07-2004, 09:45
Just thought I'd comment on that... by the way, thanks for mentioning that there are already issues for the health care stuff, I don't like going through the issues list because I don't want to spoil them when I get them, I like a surprise issue to pop up now and then... Although I do have another proposal which I have thought of that I'm pretty sure has no issue to match it... I have to get some information on it first and then I'll have a new proposal to draft here... thanks anyways!

S'okay ! :D

* I forget, I've gotten every N.S. issue just about, whats scary is on reading them, all 150 + , I can remember the gist of them ... :eek: + :rolleyes:
Kelssek
01-08-2004, 07:48
Many talented individuals do not go into the healthcare field because they cannot make the money that they can in other fields.

Well, I guess that's a bit cynical; I'd like to think most doctors enter the profession out of a desire to heal people, but it's fair all the same. The problem is that sometimes these huge settlements are indeed justified and they can always be appealed - most of these excessive settlements are, and successfully too.

I also stand by my opinion that the malpractice issue is overblown. Our government provides universal socialised healthcare to our population, but even with free-market systems, the cost to the patient from malpractice suits is minimal and the cost of other aspects of medical care, especially medicines, are rising much more quickly than malpractice insurance premiums.