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The following proposed resolution is presented by the Militarized Republic of Thesselonius, to address a defeciency in the category of Law and Order, with a moderate strength of urgency.

Presented before the body of the United Nations for consideration, this day, July 27, 2004, this proposal urges the United Nations to make this following statement.

The United Nations, ALARMED by the rising levels of crimes against women inside it's member nations,

CONVINCED that the well being of women are of an equal importantce to men,

HAVING EXAMINED the level of ability of women to defend themselves in violent crimes,

NOTING WITH REGRET, that the current level of ability that women possess to defend themselves,

DECLARES ACCORDINGLY that the following actions be taken to alleviate this deplorable problem.

1) Each nation shall provide, at no cost to the public, government sponsored self-defense courses for women.

2) Each nation shall provide, at enlarged discount, government-sanctioned self-defense devices to women, including but not limited to mace, personal alarms and taser devices.

3) Each nation shall institute the laws required to safeguard against the gross misuse of these rights and programs for the purpose of committing acts of violence or vengeance, or any other criminal act.

4) Each nation shall institute a slight tax increase to supply their Law Enforcement agencies with the funds nessicary to enact the prior rights. Laws shall be enacted to prevent the misuse of these funds generated by the tax increase.

The following has been written to provide a way for women to learn and gain the ability to defend themselves from dangerous criminal acts. We undertake this resolution to rectify years of quiet inaction, for the sake of our citizens, our children, and our sacred honor.

I find this rediculous. There is no problem like this in the USSV, and to suggest that women be armed and given courses to learn to fight, will only create an atmosphere of fear and paranoia on our streets. The women in our country seldom come under attack, and social services for women are well established and used. Men and women who make use of violence to intimidate others and gain from the misfortune of others are delt with swiftly and harshlty. Rapists, are given the harshest sentences, after those who commit treason and murder. Personal weapons in the USSv are outlawed, this ban includes fiurearms, tazers and anything else that is created for the intention of causing harm or disrupting peace. The only men who bear arms are men in the military and police forces. The only women who bear arms are women in the military and police forces. In addition, the police forces in the USSV gain considerable funding from the federal government and so to increase this funding would be an unnecciary tugg on the tax payers, who are already taxed highly (42% for lower income citizens and residents, nearly 100% for those of opulence) and we seak to reduce this by a little less than half soon. This should be decided on the local stage, not the international one. Or better yet, it should be applied to nations who do not meet standards of equality between the sexes. Just a thought.

United Socialist States of Vanua

I find this rediculous. There is no problem like this in the USSV, and to suggest that women be armed and given courses to learn to fight, will only create an atmosphere of fear and paranoia on our streets. The women in our country seldom come under attack, and social services for women are well established and used. Men and women who make use of violence to intimidate others and gain from the misfortune of others are delt with swiftly and harshlty. Rapists, are given the harshest sentences, after those who commit treason and murder. Personal weapons in the USSv are outlawed, this ban includes fiurearms, tazers and anything else that is created for the intention of causing harm or disrupting peace. The only men who bear arms are men in the military and police forces. The only women who bear arms are women in the military and police forces. In addition, the police forces in the USSV gain considerable funding from the federal government and so to increase this funding would be an unnecciary tugg on the tax payers, who are already taxed highly (42% for lower income citizens and residents, nearly 100% for those of opulence) and we seak to reduce this by a little less than half soon. This should be decided on the local stage, not the international one. Or better yet, it should be applied to nations who do not meet standards of equality between the sexes. Just a thought.

United Socialist States of Vanua

Yes, we agree. The Federation of Jessicia also has a low crime rate and violence against women isn't more of a problem than violence against men. You should change this to target the nations with those problems.

The Federation of Jessicia, Foreign Affairs Minister, Braxton Conrad.

Isn't that an issue of game mechanics?

The following proposed resolution is presented by the Militarized Republic of Thesselonius, to address a defeciency in the category of Law and Order, with a moderate strength of urgency.

Presented before the body of the United Nations for consideration, this day, July 27, 2004, this proposal urges the United Nations to make this following statement.
That is nice dear. But have you actually presented it into the list or are you presenting it here where we can see it, as a draft version ?

The United Nations, ALARMED by the rising levels of crimes against women inside it's member nations,
Really ? I was not aware of this. Komokom, sex wise, is an egalitarian society, as I am sure many others are. I find it curious that attacks on women are so high compared to those on males. But hey, I find it wierd so many people never consider the possibility of a third or more sex/sexes, or remember Hemaphrodites ...

CONVINCED that the well being of women are of an equal importantce to men,
I agree, and recently you and other readers may have seen the re-write I wrote which The Black New World has pasted up in draft ... :D

HAVING EXAMINED the level of ability of women to defend themselves in violent crimes,

NOTING WITH REGRET, that the current level of ability that women possess to defend themselves,
Hmmm. Examined ? Who did this ? I find it also interesting that people ignore the idea of Amazon Woman societies ... tsk, tsk, tsk ...

DECLARES ACCORDINGLY that the following actions be taken to alleviate this deplorable problem.
If it really is a problem. And you only seek to protect women, discarding any hope of equality.

1) Each nation shall provide, at no cost to the public, government sponsored self-defense courses for women.
Wow, thats contradictory.

No cost to the public - Government sponsored.

Lets ignore that government funds usually come from the public. Remember taxes, any-body ?

2) Each nation shall provide, at enlarged discount, government-sanctioned self-defense devices to women, including but not limited to mace, personal alarms and taser devices.
Uh-huh. Enlarged discount. So my government will be sloshing tons of tax dollars into providing women with near free " non-lethal " weapons and defense devices. Now, I doubt it will result with militant feminists storming the Komokom'ian Capital. But this seems a little biased against men.

3) Each nation shall institute the laws required to safeguard against the gross misuse of these rights and programs for the purpose of committing acts of violence or vengeance, or any other criminal act.
" So like, we'll train you to defend yourself, but you'll always be open to prosecution if you use it. "

Because this is just all so wide open to interpretation.

The laws your creating here are too fire-forget like, and seem to ignore how many legal systems work. And any-way, just because the laws are there does not auto-matically mean people will follow them. In all practicality, your seem-ing to be giving women a loaded gun and telling them to " don't use it even though you can ". I also like these laws you refer to, no doubt which will be alike " Thou shalt not abuse these devices or training, or else. ".

But no, I'm sure it will solve everything.

4) Each nation shall institute a slight tax increase to supply their Law Enforcement agencies with the funds nessicary to enact the prior rights. Laws shall be enacted to prevent the misuse of these funds generated by the tax increase.

Wow, the non-specifica increases with every clause. So despite the contradictory funding restrictions mentioned above you want to raise taxes to make sure law enforcement will " enact these prior rights ".

Uh-huh. And to prevent any miss-use, you'll enact laws here too. But I was always under the impression laws were more then shouting " Stop, Laws ! Don't Do It Or Else ! "

The following has been written to provide a way for women to learn and gain the ability to defend themselves from dangerous criminal acts.

Unlike going and learning them-selves if they want too. Are these measures even complusory or not ? Did you even define things relating that ?

We undertake this resolution to rectify years of quiet inaction, for the sake of our citizens, our children, and our sacred honor.

Oh please, spare us. If the contradictions and other difficulties were not bad enough, the non-objective emotive referances to public duty, kiddies and " sacred honor " are. Oh, and lets not forget the promotion of universal bias towards women, while shovelling equality down the red-tape crapper.

Pfffrt. :rolleyes:

Conclusion " If we tell them how to beat up men it will all be better I'm sure "

I wasn't aware that the rate of crime against women was significantly larger than that against men, but then, we don't have access to your country's crime figures.

If women want to learn to defend themselves, they can do so at any one of the private organisations which teach various methods of self-defence, or they can take up a course at their local council's health centre, most of which have a self-defence course running all year round. These are, incidentally, the same facilities used by men. Afterall, if we are to treat women equally how is it that we then give them more than men? There would be some sort of civil uproar if such a plan was enacted only for women.

The Articles of the Confederacy of Mattikistan clearly state that we must maintain equal, fair rights for everybody regardless of race, gender or disability. A law clearly tailored for a specific group would be in violation of our constitution, and we could not support it even if the proposal is sound.

Which it is not. Most of the points are too vague and open to interpretation. In addition, it suggests modification to those aspects of a nation which are clearly domestic affairs, for example increasing taxes and informing us of how our law enforcement agencies should work. In addition, it shows clear disregard for those nations, such as our own, with an effective ban on all devices specifically designed to cause harm, pain or death to anybody. Indeed, rehabilitation could be arranged for anyone carrying such a device, be it a taser, gun or otherwise in this nation -- even the military are forbidden to carry armaments outside their military bases, except in times of dire emergency (i.e. war) or to transit out of the country.

2) Each nation shall provide, at enlarged discount, government-sanctioned self-defense devices to women, including but not limited to mace, personal alarms and taser devices.

All of those but the personal alarms are illegal here, and the basic alarms are already freely available at police stations. As this states shall provide government-sanctioned devices, this would be in clear contradiction to many nations laws.


If you truly believe / have evidence that women are suffering a significant amount of crime compared to men, instead of disregarding civil rights and the equality of the sexes, why not instead try to tackle the cause of the problem, rather than teach people to deal with the effects?


I believe the honourable representative from Komokom effectively highlighted most of the other flaws in this idea, so we shall leave it at that for now.


Minister for Foreign Affairs
The Confederacy of Mattikistan

What idiot it taking things like this to the UN? If you have a problem in your nation with violence towards women, DEAL WITH IT.

This is IN NO WAY a UN matter.