NationStates Jolt Archive

I've noticed that NationStates does not have a Security council. I therefore think there should be 5 permanent members of the UN security council as well as 10 non-permanent members (rotational) from different regions.

I would like to volunteer as a permanent member but if not I'd be a rotational one. It might be a good idea if not normal nations like us can be permanent members, the moderators could be the permanent members, that way they could by force ask nations to comply with laws and fair RP. Non-members of the security council can bring drafts about their problems and can seek help from the security council.

Any volunteers?

Sounds to me like an addition to the game mechanics. I don't think they like things like that...

Who are "they"? And if you're on about the Mods that doesn't stop me and you and any other just nation on NS creating a security council.

Eh.

If you wanna RP a Security Council, have a ball.

Yeah, that sounds like it..Are you offering to be a member?

* The Rep of Komokom resists ! a facial tick.

... ;)

Well, this is not a new idea. Its a rather old one to be precise, and here I'll try to impart some thought on you all regarding it from the perspective of an U.N. " old hand " ( sounds more dignified then " U.N. regular " I would think ;) ) ...

Okay, yes, a security council might be nice for the U.N. to make it more realistic in some regards ( except ours might get more stuff done ? :) ) but there are some problems,

That is, if you want ti to be a direct part of the game.

1) Because it would be a part of the game, that would mean it would need to be programmed in. Such an act would be very hard and take quite a while, as it will means diverting hours of eating, sleeping, and keeping a tab on personal hygiene into tapping little keys until we stop complaining. Which is why I suspect [violet] remains anonymous to prevent extreme players finding her and chaining her to a desk-top.

* [violet] = Our most certainly super and most well known Administrator of Nation States, whom we all know, praise, love, admire, and occasionally curse with voodoo if something goes terribly, terribly wrong.

2) Apart from programming it in, it has to be managed, meaning the Moderation staff will have even less time to eat, wash, respirate and pro-create. We assume.

* Regarding pro-creation, respiration, and other lesser mentioned activities, we can ONLY assume, these people devote a LOT of time into making this as enjoyable for you as possible. Give thanks for them.

3) As above in relation to programming, it has to be well working logistically, regarding shifting members about, allowing mods to suck out out any bad eggs, work well and intergrate into the system updates, you know, so ex-member " x " due to seats being refreshed can still not allow or-not stuff, while we all look about going " What the hell was that ? ". It has to be all thought out well enough before the Game Staff required to program it can even say " Hey, we may get around to doing that soon " ...

* So what I'm saying here is, nice idea, but if you really really really want it to happen one day, step 2 from previous is that a workable system design needs to be thought up and put on the record. I could have just said that, but I abhor brevity, ;)

4) Summing up :

It won't happen day, it won't happen next week, in fact, if it happens this year, I might convert to a religion. No, in fact, if it EVER does, I might. Its easy to say "why not do this " but the problems we face are that programming all this in, then keepping the entire machine ticking over is alot of time, effort and will.

* * * YET * * * :

I'm not trying to :mp5: your bubble here, ya know ...

I'm not trying to kill your dreams, just trying to impart the realities of the situation. Now, yes, you can make your own U.N. Security Council, but you need to be very careful about it. It may be best to make one up for your region, or move to a large and possibly even pro-U.N.-ish region and suggest one to assist your/their delegate. But what-ever you do, be careful and make sure you read up on the rules and the F.A.Q. and such. Its best to play safe, you don't want to be "told on" for pretending to be an a " Official " U.N. body. If you know what I mean. Read the rules, and you might, well, know what I mean, that is ...

* I've spent over 12 hours playing System Shock 2 today, and I can still hear cyborg nurses walking around. I stopped playing an hour ago. I am in need of sleep and while making a lot of sense to myself may not really be doing so to you ...

Any questions ... post here or telegram me and I'll ... ( yawn ) :)

Eh.

If you wanna RP a Security Council, have a ball.

Sounds to me like they aren't going to stand in the way if you want to create something that doesn't have any voting functions to the normal game.

I think that is fine too. Imagine how they'd have to decide how to display SC votes and resolutions.

I think you should start by simply running a poll and making a list of reasons why you want a SC here. You might also talk about what the SC's powers would be. If there is support (and I'd like to here the arguments pro and con first), then a RPed SC could be fun.

I'll add that the SC could perhaps *amend* resolutions, since there won't be game mechanics involved *and* that would leave this body to roll some more down to earth resolutions.

Yeah, I just want a security council to help other nations in times of need. I accept all the reasons of not having one, but I'm not going to enforce the Veto idea...cos I think that's a stain on the democratic institution that is the United Nations. The fact is the security council can receive drafts about problems in different regions regarding unfair RP.

LOL so far I've no volunteers, but if you wanna be one just say...

Basically we'll discuss issues regarding RP in your region and it can be highlighted in this thread. Though I'd like it to be, it's not part of the gaming mechanics it's just role play. Say if nations are not enacting upon resolutions, should these nations be ignored-then what is the point of the resolutions? I mean we have nations in the UN who are breaking resolutions. There should be a body that monitors nations who are breaking resolutions and UN laws.

I'm all for role-playing in the UN Forums, as it seems we don't do enough of that anymore. Maybe I'm not the right person to say this kind of thing given my recent (and enourmous) leave-of-absence, but it'd be best to lay down some rules and guidelines for any RP body you put together. I've seen too many pick-up games of kickball go wrong because one kid gets mad about the rules, then takes his ball and goes home. If it's in writing, you're one step ahead of the game.

To that end, I'm willing to sit down with you and work out an idea for role playing something similar to the Securit Council. I've talked about it enough in the real world, whipping up something for these forums shouldn't be all that hard. If you're interested, send me a telegram and we'll get to it. If not, well, hey, good luck.

Well there are moderators who can make sure who are breaking the rules or not, But regarding unfair RP it can be our duty to inform those who are breaking UN resolutions or being unjust in RP (war etc).

I still need 5 permanent Members (preferably mods but it's not vital) and 10 rotational members.

Just put your nation down and the name of your delegates.

For Example ours would be:

United States of Prismos- Delegate Delta Jones.

OCC: I support this idea in principal, but one has to consider, who would be the perminant members?

The Federation of Ynys
Delegate: Tobias Jenn