NationStates Jolt Archive

I know there is already a topic like this, but this also includes WRITING a proposal.

1. Please add proper punctuation! I know I should practice what I preach, but I get really ticked off if I get a message like this:
"hi angora socks
could you please endorse my proposal kill immigrants i really want it to get through as my nation is always getting immigrants on its shores
thanks
reelagana"
Please take note as if this happens I will not endorse any proposals whose authors make it look like a robot wrote it.
2. Include the recipents name so it doesn't look like a carbon copy!
"Hello,
Could you plz endorse my proposal Tell the Government whose boss?
It would be great Sir/Madam!
thanks,
reelagana"
If you are to do that, also capitalise the name as it is actually?
3. Spell both the proposal AND the tg correctly!
4. Take a look at the nation that you are tg-ing before sending ANYTHING.
5. Don't reply to a rejection.
6. Don't send threats!
Cheers,
Angora.
*All examples are fake. :D

I know there is already a topic like this, but this also includes WRITING a proposal.

1. Please add proper punctuation! I know I should practice what I preach, but I get really ticked off if I get a message like this:
"hi angora socks
could you please endorse my proposal kill immigrants i really want it to get through as my nation is always getting immigrants on its shores
thanks
reelagana"
Please take note as if this happens I will not endorse any proposals whose authors make it look like a robot wrote it.
2. Include the recipents name so it doesn't look like a carbon copy!
"Hello,
Could you plz endorse my proposal Tell the Government whose boss?
It would be great Sir/Madam!
thanks,
reelagana"
If you are to do that, also capitalise the name as it is actually?
3. Spell both the proposal AND the tg correctly!
4. Take a look at the nation that you are tg-ing before sending ANYTHING.
5. Don't reply to a rejection.
6. Don't send threats!
Cheers,
Angora.
*All examples are fake. :D

The robot text can easily happen if you are C&Ping a telegram from another site / board / email. Though UN Delegates might like to think that the rest of us are going to hand write them all, the 3-day window to get a proposal endorsed is short. Your list is pretty unrealistic.

Part of the responsibility of being a UN Delegate includes getting "cold called" concerning proposals. Another responsibility of being a UN Delegate is to read through the proposals on your own or to have others help you.

Though there are other reasons to be a UN Delegate, there are additional responsibilities you willingly take when you accept the position. I don't think getting mad about telegrams is really that helpful.

Finally, I'll point out to UN Delegates, if you don't like receiving rude telegrams, don't send them out. There are UN Delegates who will do this.

10kMichael

I've cold called on proposals, and I do like to try and be polite when sending en masse - I know it can make a difference.

It also helps if you include a URL, and maybe advice on how to endorse it (there are newbie delegates who don't know how to endorse)

I know there is already a topic like this, but this also includes WRITING a proposal.

1. Please add proper punctuation! I know I should practice what I preach, but I get really ticked off if I get a message like this:
"hi angora socks
could you please endorse my proposal kill immigrants i really want it to get through as my nation is always getting immigrants on its shores
thanks
reelagana"
Please take note as if this happens I will not endorse any proposals whose authors make it look like a robot wrote it.
2. Include the recipents name so it doesn't look like a carbon copy!
"Hello,
Could you plz endorse my proposal Tell the Government whose boss?
It would be great Sir/Madam!
thanks,
reelagana"
If you are to do that, also capitalise the name as it is actually?
3. Spell both the proposal AND the tg correctly!
4. Take a look at the nation that you are tg-ing before sending ANYTHING.
5. Don't reply to a rejection.
6. Don't send threats!
Cheers,
Angora.
*All examples are fake. :D

The robot text can easily happen if you are C&Ping a telegram from another site / board / email. Though UN Delegates might like to think that the rest of us are going to hand write them all, the 3-day window to get a proposal endorsed is short. Your list is pretty unrealistic.

Part of the responsibility of being a UN Delegate includes getting "cold called" concerning proposals. Another responsibility of being a UN Delegate is to read through the proposals on your own or to have others help you.

Though there are other reasons to be a UN Delegate, there are additional responsibilities you willingly take when you accept the position. I don't think getting mad about telegrams is really that helpful.

Finally, I'll point out to UN Delegates, if you don't like receiving rude telegrams, don't send them out. There are UN Delegates who will do this.

10kMichael
I would like to just tell you that I have noticed all these thing in telegrams I got during my time as a delegate. Just today, I got 2 tgs. 1 asked me to forward it on to other delegates! (I would remember reading in the delegates "cold calling" job description (not that there is on and I have read the entire FAQ) that delegates are meant to act as messenger boys/girls! No. 2 asked me to endorse a proposal that would not only mess up my region AND nation, but disgusted me as it was the exact opposite of what my nation and region was about! And people could also include a location of where there proposal is as I as a delegate am often forgetting names of proposals and end up spending LOTS OF TIME looking for the names of the proposers!
And excuse me for saying this, but I DIDN'T accept this "JOB"! I just got an endorsement and beame delegate automatically! I DIDN'T ASK FOR IT!!!!!!
And my list isn't unrealistic as I am friends with a LOT of delegates and they all agreed with my list and said that it had all happened to them.
I would also like to know if YOU are a delegate. f you aren't and haven't been, how do you know what its like being a delegate and being cold called 24-7? Huh?
MAN! I hate it when I get angry and my glasses fall off! Just let me recompose myself... There
That all from a STILL angry Angora socks
:evil: :cry: :( :tantrum:

(I would remember reading in the delegates "cold calling" job description (not that there is on and I have read the entire FAQ) that delegates are meant to act as messenger boys/girls!

You aren't going to read anything about cold calling in any FAQ, because it is not an activity that NationStates seeks to actively encourage for the simple reason that too much telegram traffic reduces the likeness that anybody will bother to read telegrams from nation's they don't know.

This doesn't change the fact that as a UN Delegate, it *is* logical to expect cold called telegrams.

If you don't believe me, your expectations of what other nations expect of UN Delegates is unrealistic.

The UN Delegacy is there to endorse proposals and provide regional leadership. Both tasks are equally important. And a nation going into the UN Delegacy not being aware of this fact, in my nation's humble opinion is ill prepared for being a regional Delegate.

Even if that region is not active in the UN. Why? Because UN Delegates are always UN members, and they *should* be paying attention to the basic ways that UN members interact ... which includes cold calls seeking proposal endorsements.


And excuse me for saying this, but I DIDN'T accept this "JOB"! I just got an endorsement and beame delegate automatically! I DIDN'T ASK FOR IT!!!!!!

Sure you did.

You can remove your endorsements and turn down the delegacy by a temporary move into another region. NationStates will provide all of the resources for the move ... essentially it is free.

Think of a regional change as a shift of alliances and a chance to say, "No thank you, I'm not interested in being the regional delegate."

If you are so concerned by the task, I suggest moving to a region where you'll need something on the order of 500 endorsements to get the Delegacy ... then perhaps you won't need to get so mad.

But please do not assume that just because my nation isn't a UN Delegate for the 1000+ member "The North Pacific" region, that: (1) the Confederated City States don't work closely with North Pacific UN Delegates (which change frequently), and (2) that I'm not very familiar with the basic NationStates expectations of a regional Delegate.

10kMichael

p.s. I can't be the only one here who finds it ironic that you are essentially making some rules for telegramming, but you've ignored common practice when quoting ... you quoted not only my entire post, but my quote of part of yours. Please, if you are going to make rules for us to follow, consider following one of ours: i.e. trim the quoted material in posts.

Okay, #2 is the only one I see problems with. The window is WAY to small to personalize every single telegram. Now I personally tell the delegate where the proposal was at the time of tging and I tell them the FULL title so they can find it easily. I also make my tgs very polite, even if they don't have the nation's name in it. BTW, one other way to turn down a delegacy is to tg one of the people who endorsed you and ask that they please withdraw their endorsement. On a unrelated note, using these forums today is like having a root canal with no anesthesia.