NationStates Jolt Archive


The Cultural Protection Act--Stop UN Abuses!

The Shining Diphthong
17-06-2004, 06:01
Cultural Protection Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Androzani Minor

Description: Several recent UN proposals have impugned on many cultural traditions by legislating against practices which have been aspects of many social or ethnic groups for centuries. We hope to end cultural discrimination and maintain the right of cultures to continue to act in the way they have for hundreds of years.

This act would:

a) Make it illegal to pass any international legislation banning any practices that could be considered cultural;

b) Make sure that all further legislation shall pertain solely and exclusively to international law, cooperation and peace, and not interfere with national sovereignty.

It is vital that the culture in our nations stay alive despite industrialization and deforestation. Without these basic cultures which we grew from, we are nothing.
Androzani Minor
17-06-2004, 06:08
For those delegates who are interested but do not look forward to rooting through many pages of proposals, this one is on the fourteenth page.
Whited Fields
17-06-2004, 06:20
Now, if I could, I would endorse this one ALL the way.

Sounds like we should get those interested into joining my region. This type of legislation is precicely what I founded it to do... push through proposals like this, and still work in world politics.
Mikitivity
17-06-2004, 06:38
Cultural Protection Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Androzani Minor

Description: Several recent UN proposals have impugned on many cultural traditions by legislating against practices which have been aspects of many social or ethnic groups for centuries. We hope to end cultural discrimination and maintain the right of cultures to continue to act in the way they have for hundreds of years.


Back in April there was IMHO a much better proposal that instead of messing around with game mechanics, which you are doing, was a "Recognition of Cultural Diversity" proposal.

I can easily find the draft and contact the original author to see if she can bring it back, but essentially she covers the basics of what you want to do: protect cultural diversity. But her proposal did so in such a way that the only complaint she had was, "But you aren't doing anything." Ultimately her proposal would have IMHO sailed through as a resolution (besides the fact that I know that she borrowed her resolution from UNESCO). ;)

10kMichael
The Shining Diphthong
17-06-2004, 06:43
We're not messing with game mechanics...we expect people to support this on their own power (if it passes, that is). That is, if it passes, I'm hoping to see a decrease in the number of people who propose, endorse and vote for this sort of thing.
Mikitivity
17-06-2004, 06:54
We're not messing with game mechanics...we expect people to support this on their own power (if it passes, that is). That is, if it passes, I'm hoping to see a decrease in the number of people who propose, endorse and vote for this sort of thing.

Um, if your resolution says:


Make it illegal to pass any international legislation banning any practices that could be considered cultural

I can promise you that if a moderator sees this before it makes it into the queue that your proposal will probably "disappear" the first time.

Making something illegal to pass sounds a heck of a lot like game mechanics.

The truth be told, I agree that cultural diversity is important. But I also take exception to nations attempting to hide behind or abuse cultural diversity to unilaterally stay the hand of the United Nations. Nations should simply *know* when an issue is international or domestic. It isn't that hard to figure out. With that in mind, your proposal would be great if it were more a statement and less an order / directive.

10kMichael
Tolonia
17-06-2004, 06:54
THe language of the proposal is far too harsh to be construed as a "recommendation" It makes proposing such acts ILLEGAL and limits what future acts can pertain too. Such a proposal is clearly illegal and will hopefully be pulled by the mods very soon.
Sporkeric
17-06-2004, 06:59
It really depends on what the practice is now doesn't it? Some cultures recognize canabilism as a normal practice. Are we going to make it illegal to rule against that?]

The Holy Empire of Sporkeric does not support this proposal.
_Myopia_
17-06-2004, 10:00
A. illegal - blatant game mechanics

B. effectively nations could do anything they please and call it cultural. Since your proposal says "Make it illegal to pass any international legislation banning any practices that could be considered cultural", you couldn't legislate against anything which a nation chose to refer to as cultural, because that would demonstrate that it was possible to regard it as cultural.

Why should people be allowed to continue brutality and violence for simply because they've done it for years?
Androzani Minor
17-06-2004, 20:14
The basic goal of this proposal was to discourage (and, I admit, we could have been a lot less harsh about it) the UN from passing resolutions which could really have been left to the particular nation which had the problem.

Many cultural aspects ARE reprehensible, even disgusting and gruesome, but the main goal of this act was to try to stop the UN from legislating on these issues, when they could be left to the nations to resolve themselves.
Mikitivity
17-06-2004, 21:09
The basic goal of this proposal was to discourage (and, I admit, we could have been a lot less harsh about it) the UN from passing resolutions which could really have been left to the particular nation which had the problem.


A noble goal, to be sure.

But the problem is that the proposal used heavy handed tatics to stop heavy handed tatics.

I don't see the proposal in the queue anymore. If the authors wish to pursue this, I highly encourage them to look through posts in April and May and find the old Cultural Diversity approach.

We have a saying that goes, "You can catch more bees with honey than vinegar."

Good Luck,
10kMichael
Myrth
17-06-2004, 21:15
Proposals to limit the power of the UN are not allowed. It violates Game Mechanics.
Letila
18-06-2004, 01:39
This resolution would protect many unpleasant things like FGM and slavery. While it is a good goal to protect traditional religious views from capitalism, this resolution could easily be abused.

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