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Banning of Dictatorship

Divisia
17-06-2004, 04:52
I think dictatorship should be banned, because dictatorship make countries look like Saddam Hussein.
Whited Fields
17-06-2004, 05:03
First of all...

Are you saying that Dictatorships should be banned from the UN or from the game in general.

If you are saying from the UN, thats game mechanics and would get any such proposal deleted.

If you are saying from the game in general, that is also game mechanics, but is decided by the choices a player makes to his/her issues.
Unfree People
17-06-2004, 05:07
Or if you just want to whine about Hussein, make a thread in General. Either way, this isn't appropriate for the UN forum. :)
Opal Isle
17-06-2004, 05:08
Well, I haven't got around to read the charter of the NS UN yet, but I am quite familar with the real UN's charter, so if they're similar....it isn't even the role of the UN to ban dictatorship. The real UN can't interfer with domestic policies of nations so long as that nation's domesctic policies are humane. There can be humane dictatorships. A dictatorship basically just means that there are no votes and the head honcho makes all the decisions. If he is smart, he will be able to connect will the people and make decisions in favor of them as well as the nation as a whole. The problem with dictatorships in real life is that dictators have a problem with being power hungry. =/
Sporkeric
17-06-2004, 07:01
No.
Hirota
17-06-2004, 08:53
I think dictatorship should be banned, because dictatorship make countries look like Saddam Hussein.

You have a lot to learn, young apprentice. :roll:
Rubberduckistan
17-06-2004, 11:04
I think dictatorship should be banned, because dictatorship make countries look like Saddam Hussein.

<----Millions of beret wearing overweight guys with moustace?
Yikes. Ban it! Ban it now!
The Black New World
17-06-2004, 13:34
Game mechanics, can't be done.

Giordano,
UN representative,
The Black New World
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Greedy Pig
17-06-2004, 21:33
Dictatorship is good because the general citizens are stupid. They do not know what is good for the country in whole. All they think of is what that can make their lives better.
Keyet
18-06-2004, 00:21
"Dictatorship is good because the general citizens are stupid. They do not know what is good for the country in whole."

If this is the case in your country it is of no fault to the general citizens. You are correct in that a mass of idiots should not be given control of a nation, but that does not automatically mean that a dictatorship is the way to go, you could try EDUCATING your citizens with a proper school system.
Despite Keyet's love of democracy and dislike for dictatorships, we must vote against the banning of such governments as we are not so arrogant to think our way is the one and only right way. Not all dictatorships are bad, in fact some are superior to democracy in many ways, such as decisiveness and quickness of action. (They also provide an obvious scape-goat for blaming the country's problems on, one reason they have such a bad reputation). Some people may actually prefere their dictatorship to alternitive forms of government, and Keyet believes that neither we nor anyone else has the right to interfere with a country's internal politics. Let them decide for themselves what is right and best. If the people dislike it so much, they would be fleeing and rebelling, in which case the government would soon change or there wouldn't be a country left to rule. The people are the country and through their actions or lack thereof, a government can not exist without their consent, be it spoken or not.
Letila
18-06-2004, 01:38
The problem is dictatorship. The solution is anarchy.

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LordaeronII
18-06-2004, 02:48
I think dictatorship should be banned, because dictatorship make countries look like Saddam Hussein.

That is one of the more ignorant things I have read today, and that's saying alot.

A dictatorship means there is one unelected leader that has supreme power.

Pray tell, where in that does it state it must be cruel, inhumane, act like Saddam Hussein, etc.?

I don't think a dictatorship is the best way to go, but I think an Oligarchy would be the best. This eliminates the problem of the stupidity of the masses. In an Oligarchy wherein those that have the power to vote are only those who can demonstrate at least a preliminary understanding of economics, politics, and foreign policy.

Anyways, like many people said before me, it can't be done anyways, even if it was a good idea.
Letila
18-06-2004, 03:13
Pray tell, where in that does it state it must be cruel, inhumane, act like Saddam Hussein, etc.?

If, as proponents of the government insist, humans are inherently bad, then it seems reasonable to conclude that a human in near total control of other humans will abuse that control.

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LordaeronII
18-06-2004, 04:25
So basically you believe that no one in the world has morals, and that anybody, given the chance if they could do so without anyone stopping them, would viciously abuse human rights and turn into what our society would deem a monster?

If so, I think you need to go out and meet some more people.
The Black New World
18-06-2004, 10:11
Letila you played this game with my predecessor nothing came of it then.

Believe it is wrong all you want but you still can't do anything about it.

Giordano,
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The Island of Terror
18-06-2004, 19:37
The Island of Terror
18-06-2004, 19:39
Letila
18-06-2004, 20:04
So basically you believe that no one in the world has morals, and that anybody, given the chance if they could do so without anyone stopping them, would viciously abuse human rights and turn into what our society would deem a monster?

That's what people who say anarchism won't work believe.

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HotRodia
18-06-2004, 21:28
Ban Dictatorship? Hehe...the irony of this proposal is immense. I love the U.N. People are so funny here!

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The Commonwellth
18-06-2004, 22:03
Eh, I think it shouldnt be outlawed in general- Rather proposals should be made to generally bring about its demise.
The Peoples Scotland
18-06-2004, 23:29
Look, we all know this proposal will never EVER get passed because of it's simplistic&poorly thought out nature.

Debating it is immensly hard when there is no sunstance to it.
Unless Divisia can justify his view&proposal, it is pointless paying it any heed.

Unless this is a joke of course :)
The Peoples Scotland
18-06-2004, 23:30
Look, we all know this proposal will never EVER get passed because of it's simplistic&poorly thought out nature.

Debating it is immensly hard when there is no sunstance to it.
Unless Divisia can justify his view&proposal, it is pointless paying it any heed.

Unless this is a joke of course :)
Great Postonia
19-06-2004, 00:16
keep dictatorships
Kholint
19-06-2004, 00:17
Look, we all know this proposal will never EVER get passed because of it's simplistic&poorly thought out nature.

Debating it is immensly hard when there is no sunstance to it.
Unless Divisia can justify his view&proposal, it is pointless paying it any heed.

Unless this is a joke of course :)


Actually, that's probably one of the reasons it'll pass, looking at the past history of U.N. Resolutions.


Dictatorships shouldn't be banned, anyway. How the hell are you going to enforce that?
"All Dictatorships should leave the U.N."?
Well, I'm a dicatorship. I have the "resign from the U.N. link right infront of my eyes. MAKE me push it. Go on.