NationStates Jolt Archive


UN resolutions

Villonia
15-06-2004, 14:20
Since UN resolutions are obligatory for all members, wouldn't it to be a good idea to give each member the change to adopt it with an issue for parliament. When the memberstate doen't agree with an issue of which is very important for them, they can decide to leave the UN. I think a lot of new states doesn't even know which resolution apply to them when they want to join the UN.
Hirota
15-06-2004, 14:30
no - Game mechanics. You can't repeal and you cannot modify. There are circumstances when it would be nice, but we can live with it.

Besides, we'd spend more time mindlessly debating issues which have been resolved, which IMO is a complete waste of time and this body has better things to discuss.
Villonia
15-06-2004, 15:33
no - Game mechanics. You can't repeal and you cannot modify. There are circumstances when it would be nice, but we can live with it.

Besides, we'd spend more time mindlessly debating issues which have been resolved, which IMO is a complete waste of time and this body has better things to discuss.

I didn't said do should be modified, I only said that some players don't follow the resolution voted for in the UN. Besides new players don't know which resolutions are already voted for and thus apply to their nation without knowing it. I only suggest that all members need to adopt the resolution in their parliament. If they don't do so they should leave the UN because they don't follow the resolutions of the UN. If they don't accept the resolution within let say a month, they will expelt from the UN until they accept the resolution. This way everybody knows what resolutions are voted and in effect.
Hirota
15-06-2004, 15:43
no - Game mechanics. You can't repeal and you cannot modify. There are circumstances when it would be nice, but we can live with it.

Besides, we'd spend more time mindlessly debating issues which have been resolved, which IMO is a complete waste of time and this body has better things to discuss.

I didn't said do should be modified, I only said that some players don't follow the resolution voted for in the UN. Besides new players don't know which resolutions are already voted for and thus apply to their nation without knowing it. I only suggest that all members need to adopt the resolution in their parliament. If they don't do so they should leave the UN because they don't follow the resolutions of the UN. If they don't accept the resolution within let say a month, they will expelt from the UN until they accept the resolution. This way everybody knows what resolutions are voted and in effect.

Ahh, I see what you mean. :oops:

As I understand it, the moment a nation applies to join the UN, they are accepting all the previous and existing resolutions and the impact those resolutions have on their government are instantly made the moment their application is accepted.

I'd assume in role-play terms that their government has reviewed all the consitutional and legal changes membership would entail and have accepted those changes through extensive reviews or approval from their supreme leader (or whatever their government does to get things done).

Sadly, in real-life that is not the case :( There are lots of nations who join the UN without considering it. Personally I think nations would benefit a lot from considering the application - look at the forum before applying, look at previous resolutions etc etc. It's not suited for everyone, and I'd imagine a lot of nations join and leave in a short period of time because they don't get what they expect from the experience.

Having said that - they could benefit from being given more advice from the start.

I know there are nations out there who like to think they are ignoring previous or existing resolutions, but the simple fact is they can't while part of the UN. It's not up for debate, and they can moan all they like, but it makes no difference.

Of course, I'm just a mere member and perhaps a mod or an experienced member will correct me. :wink:
Tuesday Heights
15-06-2004, 16:12
What miffs me, is that joining the UN requires compromise, and nobody here seems to want to do that. I mean, the US went into Iraq and broke the rules of how compromise works, and that is what happens here.