NationStates Jolt Archive


ID cards and barcoding

Hashtonia
11-06-2004, 17:12
I have posted a proposal calling for a ban of compulsory ID cards, bar coding and National Databases, please visit the proposal called Big Brother and give it your support.
Necros-Vacuia
11-06-2004, 18:06
The Dominion of Necros-Vacuia is appalled that such a proposal would even be considered. If this makes its way to the UN floor, we will work hard to defeat it.

Without our barcoding system, our cameras, and our ID database, the Dominion would lose all our national security systems! We would have criminals roaming the streets, preying on children! Political dissidents would spread chaos and anarchy!

We urge the UN to ignore this proposal utterly.

--Ellion Kev, Necros-Vacuia Ambassador to the UN
Tuesday Heights
11-06-2004, 18:41
Compulsory IDs: Yes.
Barcoding: No.
National Databases: Yes.

National security is a must, however much it may hurt civil rights to an extent, but barcoding is not necessary at this junction in world history, and will thus, refuse this proposal on that basis.
Hashtonia
11-06-2004, 19:19
Having a database with everyones information on is at threat to hackers who would wish to use this information for fraud, and even sell this information for false ID's which could lead to false prosecution.
Necros-Vacuia
11-06-2004, 20:39
Surely your people have counterhackers capable of warding off such criminal scum? Or at the very least the ability to issue an immediate warrant for their arrest?

Barcoding is absolutely necessary. Without such a system, any criminal or terrorist could simply alter their appearance and escape detection!

You are suggesting anarchy within the UN, Hastonia, and we will not support it. We continue to encoruage dismissal of such a ridiculous proposal.

--Ellion Kev, Necros-Vacuia Ambassador to the UN
Tuesday Heights
11-06-2004, 23:21
Having a database with everyones information on is at threat to hackers who would wish to use this information for fraud, and even sell this information for false ID's which could lead to false prosecution.

And barcoding couldn't be used for false prosecution, too? Everything has it's downfalls.
Thunder Knights
12-06-2004, 18:36
I see nothing wrong in tracking people. If people are going to be going out of line, "erase" them before they have the chance. Barcodes help to promote organization. What we need to do is place GPS tracking devices in all women, because they are the least likely to be trusted.
Powerhungry Chipmunks
12-06-2004, 18:39
I think this issue is fairly well placed where it is: as an issue each nation decides individually. I think it has a pretty happy home there and I would hate to force it to buy new curtains.

Especially since Martha Stewart's going to be in jail and can't help.
Skeelzania
12-06-2004, 18:45
I'm not in the UN myself, but having a good friend who is, I feel I should voice our mutual opinions.

Barcoding, ID cards, and a national database are all critical to our national security. It has been these methods of tracking, combined with healthy deterrant methods, that have kept our people safe. We are quite capable of tracking every movement you make, but as long as you stay out of trouble nothing bad will happen to you.

As for the fear of hackers stealing from the database, we believe the group of convicted hackers (with hands removed) seated infront of the Ministry of Crime and Punishment will convince would-be theives of thinking otherwise.
Necros-Vacuia
13-06-2004, 11:04
The Dominion of Necros-Vacuia thanks the Skeelzanian ambassador for that well-worded summary of the necessity of such systems.

And we believe hackers are much more useful when they're working *for* the National Security Commissariat. Of course, sometimes they must be persuaded, but we believe such falls under the doctrine of necessity for the greater good.

--Ellion Kev, Necros-Vacuia Ambassador to the UN
Komokom
13-06-2004, 11:53
Well, so far I've only seen about 1 or 2 people click onto the fact that

A NATIONAL ISSUE

Covers this, and has done for a bloody long time. Now, I would have thought most people would figure along as I do that if there has been a national issue handling this for quite along time then that would be the end of it, especially so when you also remember that that particular national issue gives about 2-3 more options.

You can decide what level of monitoring should be used, or none at all.

And quite frankly, I fail to see why we need to pass U.N. law to make perffectly sound national issues obsolete, I mean, why even bother with national issues in the first place when we can use the mighty U.N. to have our way with things, and to hell with every-body else.

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