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My last post on the matter was ignored, so I'll try again. Being relatively inexperienced in the UN, I just wanted to know whether a UN resolution banning the death penalty is acceptable, as regards the topic.

I don't think it goes against any previous resolution, so it doesn't break any rules.

I doubt such a resolution would pass, considering the large numbers of Americans in NationStates (I don't mean that offensively).

I don't think it goes against any previous resolution, so it doesn't break any rules.

I doubt such a resolution would pass, considering the large numbers of Americans in NationStates (I don't mean that offensively).

looks like more europeans than americans otherwise half these resolutions wouldn't have passed.

We will support this resolution.

We consider it an atrocity that any government should be able to put themselves over the individual and steal his life from him.

Additionally, when a country practices capital punishment, there will always be the danger that an innocent person will be executed. When this happens, it's nothing but murder.

Proposals have been written like this before. It's certainly not beyond discussion and legislation.

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I don't think it goes against any previous resolution, so it doesn't break any rules.

I doubt such a resolution would pass, considering the large numbers of Americans in NationStates (I don't mean that offensively).

looks like more europeans than americans otherwise half these resolutions wouldn't have passed.

Which resolutions in particular?

"Murder" is the unlawfull killing of another person. By definition a government is incapable of murder by default since it defines the laws. Hense why goverments are not tried for "murder" in many cases, but instead, "war crimes". Desersion in times of war is still a capital offense punished by death in even the supposed "enlightened" nations that do not practice capital punishment. Generally I firmly believe in capital punishment, as long as the crime was capital... in the case of murder, espionage, and treason.


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We agree with capital punishment as well and will vehimently debate in its defence.

In many cases, capital punishment is better than giving a criminal free room and board for the rest of his life. If it's obvious a person will not be able to become a productive member of society but instead try to destroy, he should be put to death.

I would stand by my belief in pro-capitol punishment. In some cases, death is a perfectly acceptable punishment.

I would go further to say in some cases torture would be appropriate as well, but I know very few people would support that (the world is shifting to a more left wing view... even alot of the right wing people are leaning towards the left side of the right...)

I doubt such a resolution would pass, considering the large numbers of Americans in NationStates (I don't mean that offensively).

No offense taken, but not all Americans are for capital punishment (this one included). If such a resolution is introduced, I would certainly support it. We kill people who kill people to show that killing is wrong. Most of the people who would be subjected to capital punishment have to face the prospect of far more gruesome executions every day. And there really is nothing that will break a free person's spirit like throwing them into a concrete box for the rest of their lives with no chance of parole. I say life without parole, not execution!

(By the way, the U.S. is one of only six countries that can execute people under age 18. The others are Iran, China, Nigeria, the Congo, and Saudi Arabia.)

When was the last time we excueted someone under 18?

actually... 38 states and the Federal Gov't have capital punishment in the USA..... On the other side, I am for it. There is a difference between murder and killing. You can kill without it being a capital offence (Manslaughter). Murder is unlawfull killing. The keyword being "unlawfull". By definition a gov't cannot commit murder.


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I support capital punishment. If they've done wrong, they can't always be changed to do right. Kill 'em if they're deserving.

Damn left wing liberals, vote PC (Canadians)!

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Allow me to use this lil example I thought up (see what people think)

If you steal $10,000 dollars, you'd probably be thrown in jail. Much worse of a penalty than a fine of $10,000 dollars, correct?

Now, unless someone disagrees with this and thinks that they should be fined $5000 for stealing $10,000 dollars, then we assume this is good, people are punished more strongly than the wrong they committed.

So, someone commits murder. Going by the same logic, in the same legal system, they should be killed twice, or something greater than just being killed. However, the way it is now, or in some cases even just a quick death would be FAR less than the crime they committed.

I think that life imprisonment (at least in Canada and America's jails, which are a complete joke IMO) or even capitol punishment is FAR too light of a punishment for say... a serial rapist/murderer.....

I've tried, many, many times but never got enough delegate endorsements at one go. I might resurrect my proposal soon.

When was the last time we excueted someone under 18?
Last time I know of was 2003 in Oklahoma. In 2002 a juvenile was executed in Texas.There are at least 15 juveniles that have been on death row in the US this year. Since 1976, Virginia has executed 3 who were juveniles during the crime.

I will support this resolution to outlaw capital punishment, the death penalty is such a barbaric practice.

Now THIS is a tough proposal.

I personally believe that serving a life sentence in prison is far WORSE than capital punishment... HOWEVER.

The standards in North American prisons allow some (I say some because I'm not sure if it's applicable to all prisoners) prisoners to participate in games like soccer or basketball, or do something to pass the time in prison. Personally, I believe that the procedure of keeping a prisoner who would normally be placed on Death Row in a cell for life and giving them two bathroom breaks a day, three meals consisting of just enough to keep them healthy, and a daily escorted walk around outside is a much more punishing thing than death. Life is good, yes, but... that is the bare minimum of life.

I do not agree with capital punishment, but because of the rather comfortable standards of modern-day North American prisons I would have to OPPOSE the proposal of the abolishment of Capital Punishment.

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