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MY fellow NS'ers. Many of you have been outraged by some in the UN who havem usurped their authority in passing resolutions like the recent 'abortion rights' resolution. Yes, we can make all kinds of pontifications and speeches denouncing said resolutions but until we start banning together and actually voting down these things-then they will continue to do what they have-enforce despotic resolutions that curtail your and my freedoms. Instead, we must come together and tell the UN-you are not 'Big Brother'and you will not tell my country how to govern.

I propose interested nations to Send a telegram to the Theocracy of Punk Daddy for details. If we, UNITE, then we can stop this from happening again and again and again.

We* can't tell you how to run your country but we can tell you what your laws are going to be.

The UN is the world's governing body. It proposes and votes on resolutions, which are then binding on all member nations. In other words, it's a hot-bed of political intrigue and double-dealing.


The UN is your chance to mold the rest of the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will also be affected by any resolutions that pass. (You can't just obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations do.)

Since the rise of civilization (November 13, 2002), the members of the United Nations have been working tirelessly to improve the standard of the world. That, or trying to force other nations to be more like them. But that's just semantics.

As long as the majority vote for it, and it doesn’t contradict game mechanics, it will be enforced.

Not that I'm standing up for the system, it's just the way it is.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

*Collectively and democratically.

I am not against the system...I am however against, 'the tyranny of the majority' in every and all senses of the word. And in my opinion, I am a 'limited governmentalist' so I believe that the UN should allow it's members to decide for themselves on many issues, specifically abortion.

I believe that the 'majority' would agree, but most are leaving the UN rather than staying and fighting the good fight......so I guess we'll see, eh?

I am not against the system...I am however against, 'the tyranny of the majority' in every and all senses of the word.

Then why did you join the UN.

It's a democracy and everyone is bound by it's resolutions. If you want fewer rules why are you in the UN ?

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

I am not against the system...I am however against, 'the tyranny of the majority' in every and all senses of the word.

Then why did you join the UN.

It's a democracy and everyone is bound by it's resolutions. If you want fewer rules why are you in the UN ?


Some of us believe it is important to stand up for what is right, rather than to take the road of cowardice and fear. Our nation is in the UN specifically to fight the communist domination of the UN, to allow the UN to be a forum for free nations. That is our vision that we want to enforce on the rest of the world - the vision of leaving other countries alone, of standing up for your national sovereignty, and still being allowed to participate in international diplomacy. You can argue that it is right to despotically force other nations to adhere to your ideology, but you can't fall back on "game mechanics" to support it. Within the game, we can fight for either outcome, tryanny or freedom. It is clear that you want tyranny.

Cordially,
Richard Held
Secretary of Homeland Counter-Insurgency
The United States of America the American
Mighty Capitalist Superpower™

* sigh *

What a waste of energy. Start making better proposals, then, perhaps the UN would be better off.

Here's what I don't get; every person complaining about the UN's 'tyranny' either doesn't vote against a resolution then bitches about it not being voted down, or doesn't realise they can leave the UN at any time.

If you don't like a resolution, vote against it. It's as simple as clicking the "Against" button during the voting.
Don't like the UN? Leave. It's your choice to be in the UN, you're not forced to be a member.

PsyPoke.....

Number 1. I voted against this resolution.

Number 2. I have a right to be a member of the UN as you do. I am seeking to change the UN from the inside. I'm not just saying 'argh the UN Sucks...I'm out'. I'm actually doing something more dangerous. That is stating a declaration of war against tyrannical resolutions such as the abortion rights bill which I believe usurps authority from member nations.

Number 3. Any nation wishing to join in this effort can join the region 'Political Freedom' and visit the forum

http://s8.invisionfree.com/Political_Freedom/index.php?act=idx


The fight will be a tough one, I admit, but in conversations with some of the 'powerbrokers' of the game, it seems timely that this revolution occur.

So...I will stay, thank you very much. :D

p.s. Black New World...if the UN continually passed resolutions which you felt were unjust...would you leave or fight against them? I chose to fight.

I'm not saying you shouldn't fight, I disagree with many of the past proposals as well, I'm just saying that if you want national sovereignty then perhaps you shouldn't be in The UN as it does not support it.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

I remain publicly neutral.

It is unfortunate that thare are so many foolish people in NS who vote the way they do, and so many more who vote simply for the majority, but that cannot be helped.

That's my tuppence worth..

TNE

Didja ever stop and think that maybe,just maybe,the thing that get voted for are what the people want?

I te tired of the idea that we cannot socially progress etc becuase a minority are opposed and must be allowed to stay in their status quo....

Great, ignore the minority.

Welcome back Uncle Adolph, El Duce, Hussein, Trujillo, Zedong, Zhirinovsky, Franco and Pinochet.

Nice one.

Here's what I don't get; every person complaining about the UN's 'tyranny' either doesn't vote against a resolution then bitches about it not being voted down, or doesn't realise they can leave the UN at any time.

If you don't like a resolution, vote against it. It's as simple as clicking the "Against" button during the voting.
Don't like the UN? Leave. It's your choice to be in the UN, you're not forced to be a member.

1.) We voted against the abortion bill and the suicidal disarmament bill.

2.) We realize that we can leave at any time. We choose to stay and fight for what is right.

3.) We complain about UN tyranny.

Allow me to quote you again:

every person complaining about the UN's 'tyranny' either doesn't vote against a resolution then bitches about it not being voted down, or doesn't realise they can leave the UN at any time.

Every person, huh? Could you be this wrong about everything?


Didja ever stop and think that maybe,just maybe,the thing that get voted for are what the people want?

"The people," that great abstraction whichc every ideology claims. Yes, some of the people want to be able to kill babies. Some of the people want to disarm us in the face of terrorists and rogue nations. Some of the people want to protect us from terrorists and rogue nations, including defending the unborn. Did you ever stop and think that every sort of atrocity at some point has been popular enough to be carried out? Yet that the atrocities are still evil? So that "what the people want" is absolutely no argument as to whether it is the right thing?

Cordially,
Richard Held
Secretary of Homeland Counter-Insurgency
The United States of America the American
Mighty Capitalist Superpower™

I joined the UN under the impression that voting wold be done on issues that affect everyone like trade agreements. I have been dumbfounded by the complete direspect these resolutions have for everyones soverignty.