NationStates Jolt Archive


Freedom to Honor Life

Asheboro
06-06-2004, 04:20
In wake of the recent resolution that attempts to force nations to violate human rights in law, I have just written a proposal that if approved, will reverse the Abortion Rights resolution and once again recognize a nation's right to outlaw this murderous practice. I know my nation will not recognize this resolution, and murder will continue to be outlawed, despite what the majority of the international community thinks. The title of my proposal is "Abortion Ban". A more appropriate title probably would've been Freedom to Honor Life or something along that line. Oh well.
Asheboro
06-06-2004, 04:25
Oh yeah, and just so people don't beat the dead horse about not being able to repeal resolutions, I know this. Doesn't mean I'm not at least going to make a political statement about it. Call me an idealist or whatever, but that's my position. Sometimes arbitrary rules have to be broken to break the stranglehold of tyranny.
Demotheses
06-06-2004, 04:58
Are you quiet honsetly against abortion? What if the embryo is in the first trimester and does not even have a developed nervous system? What about rape or insesst? What if the fetus couldn't survive outside the mother? These cases all consitute abortion. I know that this is an extremely touchy topic, but I am glad that it passed in the UN.
Asheboro
06-06-2004, 08:16
Yes, I'm against abortion for the simple reason that once conception happens, a new human being is created. And since it's a human being, it has full rights like we do, despite not being as developed. If we were to judge who is human and has rights based on stages of development, then there would logically be a sliding scale, where the more grown up you are, the more human you are, and the more rights you have. This of course is absurd. Also, when we take liberty to decide when people should be considered worthy of life and who's not worth protecting, then we have entirely lost our foundation of human rights, because there no longer is any logical reason to respect life at any stage; it's just a matter of who falls out of favor of the ruling or majority or whatever. So to all your scenarios, yes, I'm still against it. Hope this was somewhat helpful.
Gesamtkuntswerk
06-06-2004, 08:19
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Please, fairy Modfather, lock this thread before it progresses any further.
Rehochipe
06-06-2004, 11:17
If we were to judge who is human and has rights based on stages of development, then there would logically be a sliding scale, where the more grown up you are, the more human you are, and the more rights you have. This of course is absurd.

So you let your newborn babies drink, smoke, vote, own businesses and drive?
Hakartopia
06-06-2004, 14:06
If we were to judge who is human and has rights based on stages of development, then there would logically be a sliding scale, where the more grown up you are, the more human you are, and the more rights you have. This of course is absurd.

So you let your newborn babies drink, smoke, vote, own businesses and drive?

Not to mention marry and have sex.
Zarashitis
06-06-2004, 14:43
This is getting quite tiresome....
Ok think about it, did YOU join the UN by CHOICE? Of course you did. If you dont like the decisions made by them then just LEAVE. The only reason that resolutions pass is not solely ideological reasons but debate. If you cant say something that either makes sense or some kind of reasoning other than "I dont like it" then who the hell cares what you have to say. You just become some moron whos a stubborn asshole and refuses look at the reality of the UN. Sure Id accept a roll back resolution but that dont mean it will get any repeals done. Form coliltions to oppose these things you oppose, and maybe you will get some things done. The UN sets some standards for its members not the whole goddamned world. Its supposed to be an big alliance not a superstate.