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I'm just curious. I'd also appreciate some reasons.

In my opinion, not only are the majority of UN nations left wing people, but so too is the resolution moderator.

Also, there USED to be an almost-balance between left and right. Most conservatives got sick of the complete lack of representation they recieved in the U.N and left, furthering the imbalance.

It is my humble opinion that resolutions should only pass if 2/3rds of the majority approve it. Maybe that'll bring back some of the people who left because the U.N has become a political statement instead of a governing body.

The UN has never had anything more then 50% to pass votes.

The UN has always overstepped the RWUN boundaries.

The UN has always been 'left leaning'.

And as long as I've been in the UN people complain about it all.

The UN is give and take, if you want to impose your world view on us you have to let us force ours on you.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

The UN has never had anything more then 50% to pass votes.

The UN has always overstepped the RWUN boundaries.

The UN has always been 'left leaning'.

And as long as I've been in the UN people complain about it all.

The UN is give and take, if you want to impose your world view on us you have to let us force ours on you.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Alarmist New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

If there is a 2/3rds majority voting system, then conservatives/independant peoples won't have to worry about having the roughly 60% of the U.N that is leftist forcing their opinions down the collective throats of non-leftists.

If there is a 2/3rds majority voting system, then conservatives/independant peoples won't have to worry about having the roughly 60% of the U.N that is leftist forcing their opinions down the collective throats of non-leftists.

And if the UN becomes 67% 'leftist' presumably you'll want a three quarters majority? Requiring anything more than a 50% majority means that the 'rightist' minority will force their views on the majority by blocking resolutions.

I think it should be a 2/3 majority vote, especially considering the broad rulings being made, and rulings on issues that should be solved more locally as well.

My nation is left leaning but it left because the UN just became a place to pass resolutions concerning national issues, that had nothing to do with the international community. The earlier resolutions were better, go check them out. You might learn something. ;)

*tounge in cheek, don't flame*

Requiring anything more than a 50% majority means that the 'rightist' minority will force their views on the majority by blocking resolutions.

Haha.

This is by far the stupidest comment ever.
Those left nations can still be left. It's just handled on a local scale. Blocking your left views from interfering with my right populace is hardly unfair.

Pass your idealistic resolutions within your own government, don't impose them on us.

Pass your idealistic resolutions within your own government, don't impose them on us.

A tad hypocritical that.

The 'left' has every right to push it's views in the UN (as long as it doesn’t contradict game mechanics and the majority votes for it) and so does the 'right'.

It's give and take.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Alarmist New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

I agree with the idea of a 2/3 vote 100%. In fact, I even brought it up on my own earlier today without having read this thread. :wink:

If there is a 2/3rds majority voting system, then conservatives/independant peoples won't have to worry about having the roughly 60% of the U.N that is leftist forcing their opinions down the collective throats of non-leftists.

And if the UN becomes 67% 'leftist' presumably you'll want a three quarters majority? Requiring anything more than a 50% majority means that the 'rightist' minority will force their views on the majority by blocking resolutions.

Actually that isn't even logical. Since inherantly all NS-UN nations are sovereign, whatever is not passed in resolution leaves control to the state. Since by needing a 2/3 majority, rightest won't have much of a chance to pass "rightest" principle resolutions. So no resolution like "Ban on Aborition" or the like would pass.... Well, ok, so you also wouldn't beable to get a "legalize Abortion" through either..... Bet here's the thing, in your nation abortion is legal, in mine it is illegal, conservatives shoot down the UN mandated legalization... ok, so how did this force our rightest views on your leftest nation? Simple fact, it didn't. You still have legalized abortion. Now here's the difference. UN sanctioned legalization of abortion is passed... Now I am forced to legalize it in my nation, it was already legal in your nation. That had direct impact on my national sovereignty. Inherantly, blocking leaves control where it belonged in the first place, to the nation. It's not a system of [b]forcing[/d] ideals, but simply leaving liberty.

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"Qui Desiderant Pacem Preparate Bellum"
("Those who desire peace, prepare for war.")

I too have noticed lots of conservative nations leaving the UN. My region was founded on the principle of creating a Conservtive voting bloc in the UN, but conservative membership is dwindling slowly. My argument for rejoining the UN is that it is better to change it from within. Plus, the more UN members, the more stable your region is (if they are all endorsing the Delegate ofcourse).

After resolutions like legalise euthanasia, prostitution and now abortion, I've seen some smaller conservative, but mainly christian regions withdraw from the UN en masse, which is a shame.

I ask people to stop making proposals that are clearly a matter of national, not international sovereignity, and please stop endorsing such proposals. Many nations have lost faith in the UN, which again, isn't a good thing.

Excellently said. I agree with Tekania.

Requiring anything more than a 50% majority means that the 'rightist' minority will force their views on the majority by blocking resolutions.

Haha.

Glad you realised it was satire...

This is by far the stupidest comment ever.

...maybe not then.

Those left nations can still be left. It's just handled on a local scale. Blocking your left views from interfering with my right populace is hardly unfair.

Pass your idealistic resolutions within your own government, don't impose them on us.

Now it's my turn to say that's by far the stupidest comment ever. Extend the argument (here X-ist represents your political philosophy of choice:

Those X-ist nations can still be X-ist. It's just handled on a local scale. Blocking your X-ist views from interfering with my non-X-ist populace is hardly unfair.

Pass your idealistic resolutions within your own government, don't impose them on us.

So therefore no nations should impose their view on any other. Then what the hell are you doing in the UN?

Well, if you've left the UN, why are you still using the members' forum? :wink:

The UN has never had anything more then 50% to pass votes.

The UN has always overstepped the RWUN boundaries.

The UN has always been 'left leaning'.

And as long as I've been in the UN people complain about it all.

The UN is give and take, if you want to impose your world view on us you have to let us force ours on you.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

The UN has never had anything more then 50% to pass votes.

The UN has always overstepped the RWUN boundaries.

The UN has always been 'left leaning'.

And as long as I've been in the UN people complain about it all.

The UN is give and take, if you want to impose your world view on us you have to let us force ours on you.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE LEFT? THEY ALLOW ME TO COMPLETE THE DEVILS WORK!