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You're not liberal enough for the communist UN moderators. EJECTED!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150247

I once naively thought that the UN was a place open to all nation states member nations. I thought that only people running multiple UN nations simultaneously were ejected from the UN - I believed the UN and forum administrators. Boy was I fooled.

Turns out that if you oppose any aspect of the totalitarian liberal plan for the nation states UN, you're subject to sanction or ejection.

Worse still, many conservative nations quit in disgust. As much as I understand this desire, having wanted many times to resign in disgust, it is a dereliction of duty. Capitalist, moderate, Christian, and conservative nations must join in droves and overthrow the bureaucratic tyranny of the nationstates UN!

Cordially,
Richard Held
Secretary of Homeland Counter-Insurgency
The United States of America the American
Mighty Capitalist Superpower™

[x] I failed to understand how the game works, refused to accept the results of democracy, and whined and whined until everybody got sick of me.

i was ejected because someone hacked me and got me booted from the UN. they sent me a telegram telling me so, and i reported this to the mods, but they did NOTHING!

Actually, I have very reliable word that there is coding work being done at present to add a repealling ability in.

And, I do have a problem with your poll, where is....

[x] All of the above...

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[x] I failed to understand how the game works, refused to accept the results of democracy, and whined and whined until everybody got sick of me.
Have to agree with that one.

There should be an Aint UN, a NWO organisation designed and bringing down the UN or at least being a alternative to it! Thats something I'd endorse :) :twisted:

I agree, if there was some other alternative to the over moderated and bland UN it would make NS alot more interesting. Its a shame the UN is in such a rut and we should be allowed an alternative.

You know, when I very first started playing Nationstates, I sent Max Barry a personal E-mail asking if I could create and run my own more consevative, more monarchial UN-esque organization.

Needless to say, I never heard from him.

I got ejected for multying on accident. But that forty hour work week bill was really dumb.

And, I do have a problem with your poll, where is....

[x] All of the above...


I also looked for such an option.

Militant abortionists? Now there's a conspiracy theory.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

Yeah. Everybody knows that pro-choicers want to abort YOUR pregnancy.

If you want to watch out for someone it's those damn stereotypical pagans.

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

Personally, I'm just confused as to how anybody can give guns to foetuses.

Well their arms aren’t exactly covered…

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Alarmist New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?
Meet The Reps (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132588)

i was ejected because someone hacked me and got me booted from the UN. they sent me a telegram telling me so, and i reported this to the mods, but they did NOTHING!

I have found that they were more than happy to kick my old nation (Aeolian) out of the UN, and not really care to discuss with me why, merely give me the shocking news that I had been cheating, but did nothing when I was in a region that had suffered after an attack from griefers, and I reported it.

I'd hate to say it, but whenever I need them, they don't seem to be there.

You know, when I very first started playing Nationstates, I sent Max Barry a personal E-mail asking if I could create and run my own more consevative, more monarchial UN-esque organization.

Needless to say, I never heard from him.

Max Barry is incredibly liberal. Haven't you read the book?
I really enjoyed the book, though. Keep up the good work Max.

The rules are at the top of this forum to all to see... It's your responsibility to read them.

The rules are at the top of this forum to all to see... It's your responsibility to read them.
But that would require the whiners to make an effort...

[x] I failed to understand how the game works, refused to accept the results of democracy, and whined and whined until everybody got sick of me.

That's really so sad.

See, we at the United States of America the American read all the rules, and understand how the game works, but unlike some of you smug little liberal lemmings and fat communist bureaucrats, we happened to care that the rules themselves were dictatorial, and were structurally biased.

You call this democracy? A small cadre of communist radicals eject anyone whose bills they disagree with, while the entire history of UN legislation is chock-full of game-mechanics suggestions taht violate the politically selectively enforced "rules." So long as those suggestions that break the "rules" fit with the plan by the NS admins to make all UN nations conform to their political beliefs they are ignored. When people complain about rules violations by liberals and communists, they are ignored. Real democratic.

See, our nation hasn't been ejected from the UN - yet. We've read all the rules and done everything to comply with them, stomached all the liberal commie BS, and now we're still here arguing against your liberal communist tyranny, desipite all your smug admonitions to "read the rules" and deflections of the real points with asides referring to things we didn't even write. We wrote a hypothetical poll question in which children were armed in the interest of self-defense, not fetuses, because citizens of all ages were being slaughtered by an invading army - which happened to be motivated by enforcement of a UN resolution mandating free access to abortions within that nation, thus allowing militant abortionists justification for invasion. At no point did the question refer to arming fetuses.

Apparently, once one has red the 'little red book' of NS rules, you don't need to read anything else to refute anything you like in the service of liberal/communist hegemony, including the views of those you deride.

If you think that's a far fetched conspiracy to consider militant abortionists in this game (in which all sorts of bizarre things are done - hello, violetists?), consider that in the real world, abortionists sailed a ship to international waters just offshore of Ireland in order to provide abortions to Irish women while abortion was illegal there.

We must apologize for not including an "all of the above" selection. We had several more choices written, and had to lump a few together (like the abortion invasion and child combatants) but the forum poll creation menu would not allow us to create any more options. We had to cut several meaty ones, along with the "all of the above" option and the "I'm a UN-worshipping, Stalin-loving, smug little liberal - I'm so servile I'll never get ejected" and the "I really run things in the UN, I'm in the Central Soviet (until Stalin has a purge)" options. Perhaps another poll is in order, just for all the varieties of lackeys, dupes, terrorists, and other liberal/communist supporters who run the UN and drive out opposition with their totalitarian "game mechanics" and "rules."

For God, guns, glory, and free markets! Against Communist tyranny!

Cordially to those who reciprocate it,
Richard Held
Secretary of Homeland Counter-Insurgency
The United States of America the American
Mighty Capitalist Superpower™

...drive out opposition with their totalitarian "game mechanics" and "rules."
OOC: If you have a problem with the game maybe you should just thank Mr Barry for his time and stop playing.

Suuuure... We're all liberal communists.
Including the two of us who are in the military.
Including the Catholic who voted against the abortion rights resolution and is pro-life.
Right. Whatever.

I'll probably be ejected for multiing someday - nothing to do with this RP mess you all seem so fond of decrying.

and it won't be on purpose, I just switch UN nations too often and carelessly... o well

Really so sad? What's sad is that you're so worked up by resolutions passing that you don't like that you feel the need to prefix every other noun with 'liberal Communist'.

Any repeal - liberal or conservative, right or left-wing - gets deleted. A lot of people have tried to repeal Fight the Axis of Evil - those all got shot down. Ditto the much-needed UNEC amendments. If more right-wing stuff gets modded, it's because more right-wingers break the rules.

Yes, there are a lot of contradictory early proposals. They were passed before the repeals ruling was made.

The rules are there. You joined the game, you joined the UN; nobody forced you to do either. Whining isn't going to get the rules changed. Dictatorial? Maybe. Max's game, Max's rules.

Sure, you're allowed to make up whatever random hypothetical situation you feel like to make a point - but if they're ridiculous we will mock them. Equating a pro-choice position with invading a country and killing its children is beneath contempt; mockery is being generous.

Oh, and by the way, 'liberal Stalinist' is an oxymoron.

Our diplomatic staff will do our best to briefly address the propaganda you commies are capable of churning out. Bear with us. Or don't.

"Any repeal - liberal or conservative, right or left-wing - gets deleted."

Riiight. Why then have most of the bills since Rights and Duties of UN States not been deleted? Oh, right, because they're sufficiently communist...

To remind you, Rights and Duties of UN States includes, among other things, "Section I: The Principle of National Sovereignty:
Article 1 § Every UN Member State has the right to independence and hence to exercise freely, without dictation by any other NationState, all its legal powers, including the choice of its own form of government.
Article 2 § Every UN Member State has the right to exercise jurisdiction over its territory and over all persons and things therein, subject to the immunities recognized by international law.
Article 3 § Every UN Member State has the duty to refrain from unrequested intervention in the internal or external economic, political, religious, and social affairs of any other NationState, subject to the immunities recognized by international law."

The propsals since then which repeal that section include: Children in War, Ballast Water, Universal Freedom of Choice, UN Educational Committee, World Blood Bank, BioRights Declaration, SPCC Regulation Act, The 40 Hour Workweek, and now Abortion Rights. These are all recent proposals, passed after the appeals ruling.

Oh, but look, these are all communist-friendly bills! And all break the rules! And all were nonetheless passed into law! Surprise, surprise.

Maybe it would be surprising if you fell for the elaborate ruses constructed by communists, such as membership in the military or the Catholic church. Dedicated anti-communists know, however, that throughout Latin America, the Catholic Church has often supported armed communist revolutionary communists with what is called "Liberation Theology." In the United States, there have been 'Catholics' called the Catholic Workers founded by Dorothy Day who have openly advocated anarchy and communism in the USA of the "real world."

As for the military, Eugene McCarthy found plenty of communists in the American military. Subversion, sabotage, infiltration, and trickery is what communists do. These are not new tricks.

You all seem to like whining about our sweet little poll an awful lot, since you whine so much about our vocal opposition to your liberal communist agenda of tyranny. If we remained silent and obedient, would you stop whining about our whining? Or would you find something else to whine about, hypocrites?

If you don't even bother to read what we write, we're not responsible for you thinking our points are "beneath contempt." The point about invaders killing children was in reference to Children in War, not Abortion Rights.

Oh, right, "'liberal Stalinist' is an oxymoron" because Stalin wasn't a communist, he was a conservative! Because the USSR, starting with whichever atrocity you want to wash your hands of, was actually magically transformed into "state capitalist," meaning you can blame capitalism for all your own atrocities! But if we're talking about who beat the Nazis in WWII, it had to be the communists under Stalin (presumably at one of those moments when fickle old Joe was a liberal, not a capitalist). Isn't that convenient.

That's an old, transparent communist trick, too.

Don't believe the hype!

Defiantly,
Richard Held
Secretary of Homeland Counter-Insurgency
The United States of America the American
Mighty Capitalist Superpower™

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