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Crutches for crippled economies!

Levex
30-05-2004, 01:24
Ever since the fateful passing of the 40 hour workweek, many of our economies have been battered, beaten, and broken. My own went from "Thriving" to "Very good." Until this point, I have been fighting the decision outright, but now understanding the futility of that fight, I have decided to put my energy into fixing the problem instead.

*I saw a yogurt cup in half with a Swiss army Knife*

I suggest, then, that the UN create a standard currency that helps to combine the strenght of all our economies, much like the European Union did when it created the Euro.
The only reason I am writing this post as opposed to just going ahead and submitting a proposal is I'm not sure if this would qualify as a "mechanics change" and thus be my second "flagrant offense" and the end Levex's Un seat.

*I start burning a copy of Red Alert with a flashing red and green hemp leaf lighter I bought for 70 cents at the Eiffel Tower*

But then, that raises an even more perplexing issue. What on earth are we going to call the new currency if it does work out? We can't call it the Euro because we don't all live in Europe, and we can't call it the UN because that's just stupid. I suggest we call it the Andy, because I'm really cool and should have a currency named after me (disregard the fact that my own country's currency is not named after me).

*I change the batteries in my G.I. Joe flashlight while singing along with the computer,
"Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.
Kameraden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
Marschieren im Geist in unseren Reihen mit!"*

Please tell me what you think. Thanks.

--Andy Pottkotter
Emporer of Levex
East Hackney
30-05-2004, 04:40
Hmm. I seem to remember someone proposed this before and it was classed as a game mechanics change then - reason being, the UN can decide that everyone has the same currency, but you still have that little box on your Settings screen where you decide what your currency's called, and it'd take some reprogramming (read: game mechanics) to remove that. But for the final word on the subject, consult a mod.
Levex
30-05-2004, 05:05
All this "game mechanics" mumbo jumbo is really starting to get on my nerves. As of yet, I am pretty well acquainted with what one can't do with a UN resolution, but what CAN one do? That is a true mystery it seems. Why couldn't the UN just pass the resolution and apply the effects to all the countries and still let each country call the money whatever they want?
It would all still be the same currency whatever they choose to call it, would it not?
States of Stephenson
30-05-2004, 05:25
The Ministry of Commerce did a study on the possibility of a one-world currency in which each nation was allowed to name their own currency. The system would not work. Economically stronger nations would still be able to dominate smaller nations and markets on the strength of their currency BECAUSE (emphasis) it was that stronger nation's currency, even though it was the one-world standard. It changes everything when you add a national element to anything that is supposed to be global across the board.

Also, how would you account for the other nations that are not members of the UN? The UN membership might have the economic clout at first, but if enough of the larger (1 or 2 billion +) nations were to leave the UN, the economic consequences would be catastrophic. A move like that could start a trade war that could cripple the UN, politically and economically.

The States of Stephenson Ministry of Commerce

* This report does not take into consideration other nation's economic circumstances and is based soley of SOS economic data and information.
Levex
30-05-2004, 05:38
Then prehaps could the UN possibly set a time limit--say 1 month--in which every nation would have to rename their currency to a name supplied in the resolution and failing to do so would be considered resignation from the body? Is it even possible to monitor every Un nation like that? And even then, would it be so hard for the architechts to just write enough computer code to take off the "name of your currency" box in all UN member nation's settings menu?
New Fuglies
30-05-2004, 09:15
Something about the UN has got to change. I am frankly tired of resolutions that do nothing but increase poverty. Prior to the 40 hr work week resolution my solidly left leaning state was doing very well. After the enactment of the resolution, taxes jumped considerably to cover increased social spending (IE. Welfare for the legislated poor). The economy collapsed along with the nation's work ethic. Socialism, fine, but legislated poverty is not socialism. What is more ironic, since the resolution, I have had my hand forced in passing issues I'd normally reject just to keep the nation from going tits up. I am quite fed up and regret joining the UN. I'd withdraw but my once prosperous nation is swirling the drain and I have zero desire to start anew. :evil:
The Black New World
30-05-2004, 10:25
Am I the only one who has the same economy category as before the last proposal?

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Greenspoint
30-05-2004, 16:20
Am I the only one who has the same economy category as before the last proposal?


No, you're not.

James Moehlman
Asst. Mgr. ico UN Affairs
NewfoundCana
30-05-2004, 16:35
Mine went down too. But I also had a couple of issues that may have brought it down, so I'm not sure what to blame
Free Soviets
30-05-2004, 16:38
Am I the only one who has the same economy category as before the last proposal?

nope. i suspect that the stat changes are implemented in a non-linear fashion. we'd need to ask a mod probably, but it seems to me that nations with fairly good levels of social welfare and equality were barely hit at all, while those that were grossly exploitative took a much bigger hit. awhile back when the "rights and duties" resolution took effect my political freedoms took a huge hit (falling from widely abused to above average or something), while other nations went through more or less unscathed.
Levex
30-05-2004, 18:05
Mine went down too. But I also had a couple of issues that may have brought it down, so I'm not sure what to blame

Deep down, we are all probably terrible world leaders and know it. I, for one though, try to avoid admitting and to establish the UN as the scapegoat. My country's motto used to be "I may be to blame, but so are a lot of other people." That was a cool motto too...I don't remember why I changed it.
_Myopia_
30-05-2004, 18:43
What if there was a one-world currency, but regardless of each coin's origin, people would simply refer to it as (RL examples sorry) a pound when they were in Britain and a dollar when in America etc. Would that work?
Safalra
30-05-2004, 19:12
Am I the only one who has the same economy category as before the last proposal?

It had no effect on my economy, and I still have no tax.
Flibbleites
30-05-2004, 21:27
Am I the only one who has the same economy category as before the last proposal?



Mine was Thriving before the resloution passed and remains Thriving to this day.
Kitsune Island
31-05-2004, 05:08
Ever since the fateful passing of the 40 hour workweek, many of our economies have been battered, beaten, and broken. My own went from "Thriving" to "Very good." Until this point, I have been fighting the decision outright, but now understanding the futility of that fight, I have decided to put my energy into fixing the problem instead.

*I saw a yogurt cup in half with a Swiss army Knife*

I suggest, then, that the UN create a standard currency that helps to combine the strenght of all our economies, much like the European Union did when it created the Euro.
The only reason I am writing this post as opposed to just going ahead and submitting a proposal is I'm not sure if this would qualify as a "mechanics change" and thus be my second "flagrant offense" and the end Levex's Un seat.

*I start burning a copy of Red Alert with a flashing red and green hemp leaf lighter I bought for 70 cents at the Eiffel Tower*

But then, that raises an even more perplexing issue. What on earth are we going to call the new currency if it does work out? We can't call it the Euro because we don't all live in Europe, and we can't call it the UN because that's just stupid. I suggest we call it the Andy, because I'm really cool and should have a currency named after me (disregard the fact that my own country's currency is not named after me).

*I change the batteries in my G.I. Joe flashlight while singing along with the computer,
"Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.
Kameraden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
Marschieren im Geist in unseren Reihen mit!"*

Please tell me what you think. Thanks.

--Andy Pottkotter
Emporer of Levex

No. I like my own currency very much, thank you. :| It's really an issue of national individuality. A unique type of coin from a country is something to be proud of, and maybe to collect. I'm glad that the UK hasn't bought into the EU's euro, but not so that Deutschland (Germany) gave up its currency (I'm 3/8s German, BTW). If everyone was united, we'd all break out in constant civil wars. And, like has already been mentioned, economic dominance would still be a major problem. Let's leave space between the nations, and give a few more people jobs (as Customs and currency exchange officials). :|