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Who here thinks the UN should completely recognize a Nazi Formed Government, Not to mention accepting the Nation into the UN, as long as the Gouvernment performs no practice of "ethnic clensing" or mass murder Post under here

look at the first resolution passed

who said Ystaevae was an "Axis" or even hostile?

My opinion on the matter :

Actually, the "Fight The Axis of Evil" proposal was to my memory a test proposal to ensure the system worked, but, even so, in regards to it preventing a nazi style government, I think it is a moot argument as :

While you are probably drawing attention to how WW II Nazi Germany and its allies in the war were known as by the Allies ( Great Britain, Australia, America, But America was late so comes last, insert evil laugh springing from a pure hate of American Idol being shown on bloody Australian T.V. heh heh heh ) as the "Axis" Powers, this proposal was reffering to the G.W. Bush famed "Axis of Evil" line, a bunch of nations who indulge in or support terrorism and the destabilisation of Western or even global world peace and order.

But just to be sure, maybe "some-moddy" ( hint hint hint ) could check with Max on that one for me, I do not presume to know the mind of the creator, ahem.

:wink:

So, while this proposal cannot be used to prevent :

the UN should completely recognize a Nazi Formed Government, Not to mention accepting the Nation into the UN, as long as the Gouvernment performs no practice of "ethnic clensing" or mass murder Post under here

The U.N. cannot actually do this any-way,

" Why ! " you ask ?

Well, for the U.N. to completely recognise a "Nazi Formed Government" it would need to be able to do so via the national government descriptor, a component part of the game programming, so quite frankly, you would require game mechanics magnitude changes.

And into the murky realm of interpretations and theoreticals :

Also, the U.N. itself cannot discriminate against individual forms of government by banning them or other similar measures, yet, one could thus say under that specific, the allowing of a "Nazi Formed Government" would discriminate against any other form of government, thus meaning all and any form of government must then be recognised. But really, now I am just bouncing off onto a hypothetical, my actual argument,

Well, for the U.N. to completely recognise a "Nazi Formed Government" it would need to be able to do so via the national government descriptor, a component part of the game programming, so quite frankly, you would require game mechanics magnitude changes.
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I think thats it for the moment ... :)

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The UN should not recognize the Nazi Party because even if they do abide by those rules set in place, they still would promote or incourage hate/racism which is something the world needs less of. I'm not saying people can't be Nazis, I simply do not think that a Nazi formed government should be recognized by the UN.

political parties are a national, not international, affair. you can have whatever political parties you want in your nation.

I'm confused. AFAIK, there's no mechanism for the UN to reject any nation that applies for membership solely based on its government type. But then, I'm a newbie.

political parties are a national, not international, affair. you can have whatever political parties you want in your nation.

Agreed.

political parties are a national, not international, affair. you can have whatever political parties you want in your nation.

Agreed.

Ditto.

A Nazi government is allowed but they may not be able to restrict the rights of people they don't like. Be a Nazi but abide by the laws.

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Ugh personally as a Left-winger I hate all fascism and would OPPOSE any recognition of any nazi nation.

I'm way against the UN having a nazi based government. If you want nazism, then allow it in your own nation. I for one, would resign from the UN if this was passed, just because of the hatred that would be turned against citizens in a nation, especially mine.

Ugh personally as a Left-winger I hate all fascism and would OPPOSE any recognition of any nazi nation.

All forms of government may join the UN. You can't abolish dictatorships, democracies, monarchies, communists, socialists, nazis, or whatever someone has a problem with.

You can, however, limit there actions.

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Yes, Yes, all very good exept for one thing,
NAZI's were a political party and in the game it doesn't tell you what "political party" you are. It tells what type of government you have on how free your people are and where your economy and political freedomes stand.

Nationalism and Socialism doesn't fall into the category for how your citizens are treated, or economy, or political freedomes. It falls into the idealogical categories. Now you CAN have a Nazi form of government, just the game doesn't say you do. Like I am a Corporationist yet the game doesn't say it.

Just think before you make really dumb proposals like this. I'm not trying to bash you for your beliefs I'm just saying they would never recognize it as a government type and the moderators really don't want to put it as a government type. (Cause it changes game mechanics, which they rlly don't wanna do).

Ugh personally as a Left-winger I hate all fascism and would OPPOSE any recognition of any nazi nation.

All forms of government may join the UN. You can't abolish dictatorships, democracies, monarchies, communists, socialists, nazis, or whatever someone has a problem with.

You can, however, limit there actions.

Desdemona,
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Just a correction: When making a list it is best to have the proper, sismilar transposition of each word. In the list "Dictatorships, democracies,monrachies,communists,socialists,nazis . . ." you had the list change from a list of government types (democracies, monarchies,etc.) to a list of people who support a type of government (socialists,nazis, etc.)
So the proper list would read: "Dictatorships, democracies,monarchies, communistic forms of government, socialistic forms of government, and naziistic forms of govenrmen", or if the list was to list supporters of these types of government, it would read: "Dictatorship supporters, democrats, monarchists,communists, socialists, NAZIs"

Yet Naziism was not a form of government but was a political party. If one was to call it a type of government, the Green-Party would also be a type of government.

Actually it was a list of things that people have tried to ban in The UN.

You are, though, completely correct.

Desdemona,
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