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Draft proposal: Immigration Act

Oukratia
26-05-2004, 16:01
Hi, I just made a new proposal. Any criticism on the proposal or spelling is appreciated so I can possibly change the proposal.

Immigration Act

Reckoning rules about immigration to nations are needed.

Being of the opinion that immigrated people should try to fit in their new country as soon as possible.

I hereby propose that:
- All immigrants are obliged to take a test which examines the level of their new nation’s native language.

- If the knowledge-level of their new language is not held high enough, they will have to accomplish a compulsory course to improve their language skills.

- All immigrants are obliged to take a cultural course of their new country. This course will provide information of the nation’s politics, morals and further cultural habits.

To make this possible there will be founded a new organization, named the IE-Group, which will take on the following tasks:
- The giving of tests and courses to improve immigrant’s new language.
- The giving of courses to improve knowledge of new nation’s culture.
- Making regulations to estimate people’s skills.
- Giving out certificates when required knowledge skills are obtained.

Where IE-Group means Immigration Examination Group.

- Immigrants will be allowed to talk their past language in the private of their own home.

- If the required certificates aren’t obtained in six years the immigrant will receive an official document which says the immigrant hasn’t been able to accomplish one or more courses. This will be taken into possible resident permit trials, if held in a nation.

The Democratic Republic of Oukratia.
NewfoundCana
26-05-2004, 17:43
I'm just wondering how much this infringes on National rights, specifically the right of a nation to choose who it allows into their country.
While I agree to a certain extent that people who go to another country should be aware of the language and culture of their new country, it is a job of the individual country to look after it.
I'm not sure how this is a matter for the UN.
In my opinion.

NewfoundCana
Rehochipe
26-05-2004, 18:58
National issue. Some nations practise open-immigration policies - Rehochipe among them.
The Black New World
26-05-2004, 19:30
Due to our open immigration policies we will not be supporting this proposal.

Desdemona,
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Komokom
27-05-2004, 05:10
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A National Issue Covers This ! , Charge !

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EDIT : And falls off when he realises there is actually an issue dealing with national language and one dealing with immigration. But hey, it just about covers it any-way.

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Azrenoth
27-05-2004, 05:57
Isn't this sort of similar to America's policy in like the 1800's? Granted, less severe, but it seems odds to force someone to learn a language in a given amount of time
Ras Al Khaimah
27-05-2004, 08:30
As the honourable member for NewfoundCana mentioned, we believe this resolution would infringe too much on the freedoms of a government in choosing who to accept in their nation. The Emirate of Ras Al Khaimah is such a nation which would be severely affected by this measure. Our nation is in the process of improving our education system (we have no tertiary educational facilities whatsoever at the moment) and at the moment we are dependent on educated foreign labour for many of our industrial projects, especially when it comes to oil extraction. English is an accepted business language here and so long as the foreigners can communicate in the nominated business language then it doesn't matter, so long as they get the job done and they don't disobey any of our nation's laws.

Given a few decades however, and we might reconsider.

Sheikh Khalifa bin Muhammad Al Nahyan
UN Ambassador for the Emirate of Ras Al Khaimah
Ingleby Barwick
27-05-2004, 10:05
What if there were to be one day a year where immigrants could come into your country.

And in this one day they had to stay hidden and alive.

If they make it to the end of the day, they have shown great resourcefulness and i would welcome them as a worthy adition to my populace.

However for those who are caught they are immediately shipped out of the country and are to never return.

Just an idea, but it could also be televised :twisted:
Derring-doo
27-05-2004, 15:06
In my personal opinion, i dont think many nations will support this...proposal? Yes, proposal. Anyhow, Australia used to have a White Asutralia policy where all Asian immigrants had to do a dictation test (listen to a tape and write down what it say) in some European language. Sure, thats not exactly what ur proposing but dont you want ur country to be culturally learned? a multi cultural society? I suppose not. I think locals shouldnt be so comfortable with their own environment - they should make the effort to learn the immigrants language.
Derring-doo
27-05-2004, 15:06
In my personal opinion, i dont think many nations will support this...proposal? Yes, proposal. Anyhow, Australia used to have a White Asutralia policy where all Asian immigrants had to do a dictation test (listen to a tape and write down what it say) in some European language. Sure, thats not exactly what ur proposing but dont you want ur country to be culturally learned? a multi cultural society? I suppose not. I think locals shouldnt be so comfortable with their own environment - they should make the effort to learn the immigrants language.
Derring-doo
27-05-2004, 15:06
In my personal opinion, i dont think many nations will support this...proposal? Yes, proposal. Anyhow, Australia used to have a White Asutralia policy where all Asian immigrants had to do a dictation test (listen to a tape and write down what it say) in some European language. Sure, thats not exactly what ur proposing but dont you want ur country to be culturally learned? a multi cultural society? I suppose not. I think locals shouldnt be so comfortable with their own environment - they should make the effort to learn the immigrants language.
Greenspoint
28-05-2004, 19:41
Immigration is inherently a National issue and the UN shouldn't even be addressing it.

James Moehlman
Asst. Mgr. ico UN Affairs
Salvarus
28-05-2004, 20:51
Immigration is inherently a National issue and the UN shouldn't even be addressing it.

James Moehlman
Asst. Mgr. ico UN Affairs

I second, my govenment will not use its resources to educate people who want to be as good as us.
Cabinia
28-05-2004, 21:14
The government of Cabinia makes clear distinctions between citizenship and immigration, and applies similar restrictions on citizenship. However, the government of Cabinia frequently approves guest-worker quotas to address significant shortcomings in the Cabinian labor force, and does not feel the need to impose any requirements on them beyond those of their employers. We simply compare the request to our unemployment rolls and rubber-stamp as appropriate. As long as the guest workers fulfill the requirements of their employers, they could speak the language and carry the culture of Lower Buttmunchistan for all we care.

This is a matter of national sovereignty, and should not be considered.