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Freedom to Work

The Okanogan
26-05-2004, 04:57
I made a new proposal. Here is the text...

Freedom to Work

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade Strength: Significant Proposed by: The Okanogan
Description: Since people should be free to enter into agreements with each other as they see fit so long as they do not harm others, the minimum wage anyone is allowed to work for is reduced to zero and the maximum number of hours one can work in one week is 168 hours.
Cogitation
26-05-2004, 05:08
168 hours a week? That's exactly how many hours are in a week; nobody's going to work that much. It'll probably sound better if you just say "The number of hours anyone may work in a week shall not be limited."

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
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Founder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia

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I'm not sure if this is in the correct category. I'll have to discuss this with the other Moderators.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
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Komokom
26-05-2004, 05:26
Description: Since people should be free to enter into agreements with each other as they see fit so long as they do not harm others,
I just want to say that the above does not excuse the below, :wink:

the minimum wage anyone is allowed to work for is reduced to zero and the maximum number of hours one can work in one week is 168 hours.

This is by the looks of it a proposed repeal of "The 40 Hour Workweek" where as it does state =

1. The maximum standard full-time workweek shall be set at 40 hours. Nations shall remain free to set their workweeks lower than this. 2. No one may be contractually obligated to work more than 40 hours per week, except for the following exemptions, a ) military personnel b ) civil defense forces c ) civilian emergency response personnel Excepting military personnel, these exemptions shall only apply during emergency situations. 3. No one may be contractually obligated to remain on the worksite without pay. 4. On call hours shall count against the 40 hour limit. 5. Work exceeding 40 hours per week that is voluntarily undertaken shall not exceed a total of 80 hours per week, and shall be paid at a rate of at least time and a half or an equivalent pro-rata time off in lieu. Nations shall remain free to set their allowable overtime hours lower and their overtime pay rates higher than specified in this proposal.

This proposal is a direct contradiction to the passed past resolution and is thus surely a repeal, no matter how badly disguised.

I am even going to be very nice and ignore the fact that the proposed 168 work hours and elimination of minimum wage practically spell legalised slavery in a form not actually covered by the past passed "End Slavery" resolution.

One, quite frankly, must question the good representative of The Okanogan motivation for it all.

- T.R. Kom
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Cogitation
26-05-2004, 05:35
Oh yeah, it is a repeal, isn't it?

After discussion with other Moderators, I have deleted the proposal on the grounds that repeal proposals are not allowed.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Komokom
26-05-2004, 05:44
Good. :D

- T.R. Kom
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The Okanogan
26-05-2004, 08:37
If i changed the minimum number to 35? I am guessing that would be okay right? My point is that I am not repealing any resolution, I am just trying to change a number.
The Okanogan
26-05-2004, 08:45
This is by the looks of it a proposed repeal of "The 40 Hour Workweek" where as it does state

no, it is a modification of that resolution. The number is being changed from 40 to 168. Or is the number only allowed to be decreased?

I am even going to be very nice and ignore the fact that the proposed 168 work hours and elimination of minimum wage practically spell legalised slavery in a form not actually covered by the past passed "End Slavery" resolution.

One, quite frankly, must question the good representative of The Okanogan motivation for it all.

It is no where near slavery. Slavery is when you are forced to work against your will. My proposal before you had it erased was letting people decide amongst themselves how many hours a week they were WILLING to work so long as it did not exceed 168 hours. And it allowed them to decide how much money per hour they were willing to accept so long as it was not below zero. It did not force anyone to do anything.


Okanogan.